Protrusion and expansion in simplefonts not working in latest beta?

Protrusion and expansion in simplefonts not working in latest beta?

[Vianney le Clément]

Hello,

Protrusion and expansion seem to be not working anymore when using the
simplefonts module in the latest betas. I used to write something like

    \usemodule[simplefonts][protrusion=quality,expansion=quality]
    \setupalign[hanging,hz]
    \setmainfont[Tex Gyre Bonum]

but that doesn't give me any of the nice effects anymore. Has
something changed in the interface to access those features?

BTW, I would definitely love an option in simplefonts to take care of
this whole setup at once. Something like
    \setupmodule[simplefonts][microtypography=yes]
to take care of the first two lines of the previous example. Or at
least imply \setupalign[hanging] when setting the protrusion parameter
and similarly for the expansion parameter.

Thanks,
Vianney
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Re: Protrusion and expansion in simplefonts not working in latest beta?

[Hans Hagen]

On 17-8-2010 8:11, Vianney le Clément wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Protrusion and expansion seem to be not working anymore when using the
> simplefonts module in the latest betas. I used to write something like
>
>      \usemodule[simplefonts][protrusion=quality,expansion=quality]
>      \setupalign[hanging,hz]
>      \setmainfont[Tex Gyre Bonum]
>
> but that doesn't give me any of the nice effects anymore. Has
> something changed in the interface to access those features?
>
> BTW, I would definitely love an option in simplefonts to take care of
> this whole setup at once. Something like
>      \setupmodule[simplefonts][microtypography=yes]

please keep the original key names (protrusion and expansion) as it's 
already complex enough .. nowhere we use the term microtypography and it 
is a rather meaningless term as there is much micro going on

> to take care of the first two lines of the previous example. Or at
> least imply \setupalign[hanging] when setting the protrusion parameter
> and similarly for the expansion parameter.

in many case you don't want to use them both at the same time

Hans

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Re: Protrusion and expansion in simplefonts not working in latest beta?

[Wolfgang Schuster]

  Am 17.08.10 20:11, schrieb Vianney le Clément:
> Hello,
>
> Protrusion and expansion seem to be not working anymore when using the
> simplefonts module in the latest betas. I used to write something like
>
>      \usemodule[simplefonts][protrusion=quality,expansion=quality]
>      \setupalign[hanging,hz]
>      \setmainfont[Tex Gyre Bonum]

\setmainfont[Tex Gyre Bonum][protrusion=quality,expansion=quality]

Wolfgang

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Re: Protrusion and expansion in simplefonts not working in latest beta?

[Vianney le Clément]

On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 20:23, Wolfgang Schuster
<schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:
> \setmainfont[Tex Gyre Bonum][protrusion=quality,expansion=quality]

Thanks, that does the trick. Any reason why we cannot set these
settings as module parameters anymore?


2010/8/17 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:
> please keep the original key names (protrusion and expansion) as it's
> already complex enough .. nowhere we use the term microtypography and it is
> a rather meaningless term as there is much micro going on

Ok, that's rational. No problem, I can live without it.


>> to take care of the first two lines of the previous example. Or at
>> least imply \setupalign[hanging] when setting the protrusion parameter
>> and similarly for the expansion parameter.
>
> in many case you don't want to use them both at the same time

Could you expand a bit more on this? My understanding was that setting
protrusion=quality without \setupalign[hanging] did nothing, but of
course I may be completely wrong.


Thanks,
Vianney
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Re: Protrusion and expansion in simplefonts not working in latest beta?

[Wolfgang Schuster]

  Am 17.08.10 21:00, schrieb Vianney le Clément:
> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 20:23, Wolfgang Schuster
> <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com>  wrote:
>> \setmainfont[Tex Gyre Bonum][protrusion=quality,expansion=quality]
> Thanks, that does the trick. Any reason why we cannot set these
> settings as module parameters anymore?

To set both features for all fonts you can use 
\setupsimplefonts[expansion=quality,protrusion=quality].

Wolfgang

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Re: Protrusion and expansion in simplefonts not working in latest beta?

[Hans Hagen]

On 17-8-2010 9:00, Vianney le Clément wrote:

> Could you expand a bit more on this? My understanding was that setting
> protrusion=quality without \setupalign[hanging] did nothing, but of
> course I may be completely wrong.

true but it also creates more font data so it uses more memory and slows
down font loading

Hans

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