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* Ubuntu and Context MKIV
@ 2010-08-19 10:15 Xan
  2010-08-19 10:52 ` George N. White III
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From: Xan @ 2010-08-19 10:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi,

I have installed context package 
[http://packages.ubuntu.com/hu/lucid/context] in ubuntu. In theory it's 
the MKIV package. But when I run context I get:

MTXrun | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'

How can I fix it?

I have 10.04.

Regards,
Xan.
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* Re: Ubuntu and Context MKIV
  2010-08-19 10:15 Ubuntu and Context MKIV Xan
@ 2010-08-19 10:52 ` George N. White III
  2010-08-19 11:51   ` Xan
  2010-08-20  9:41   ` Peter Schorsch
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: George N. White III @ 2010-08-19 10:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:15 AM, Xan <dxpublica@telefonica.net> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have installed context package
> [http://packages.ubuntu.com/hu/lucid/context] in ubuntu. In theory it's the
> MKIV package. But when I run context I get:
>
> MTXrun | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'
>
> How can I fix it?

Did you run "luatools --generate"?

> I have 10.04.

I use MKIV on Ubuntu 10.04 amd64, but from TeX Live 2010-pretest installed
using the "CTAN" installer, not from .deb packages.   A CTAN install can
co-exist with a package install as long as you don't let the installer create
symbolic links, so you can install TeX Live 2010-pretest without damage to
the Ubuntu packages.   If you have good network access to one of the
pretest archive sites then installing TeX Live 2010-pretest may be your
best route as you get newer versions of luatex, etc.  Many people have
much better network access to Ubuntu archives than they do to CTAN, in
which case the Ubuntu packages may be the only viable option.

For more debugging, follow the checks for versions, shadowing, etc. from
<http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Debian_installation>, in particular,
the "Postscript: Mark
IV" section, which does mention running "luatools --generate" as well
as manually
creating cont-en.fmt.


> Regards,
> Xan.
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* Re: Ubuntu and Context MKIV
  2010-08-19 10:52 ` George N. White III
@ 2010-08-19 11:51   ` Xan
  2010-08-19 13:48     ` George N. White III
                       ` (2 more replies)
  2010-08-20  9:41   ` Peter Schorsch
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From: Xan @ 2010-08-19 11:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Al 19/08/10 12:52, En/na George N. White III ha escrit:
> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:15 AM, Xan<dxpublica@telefonica.net>  wrote:
>    
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have installed context package
>> [http://packages.ubuntu.com/hu/lucid/context] in ubuntu. In theory it's the
>> MKIV package. But when I run context I get:
>>
>> MTXrun | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'
>>
>> How can I fix it?
>>      
> Did you run "luatools --generate"?
>
>
>    
>
Yes I dit it.

The output is:

# luatools --generate
LuaTools | fileio: variable 'SELFAUTOLOC' set to '/usr/bin'
LuaTools | fileio: variable 'SELFAUTODIR' set to '/usr'
LuaTools | fileio: variable 'SELFAUTOPARENT' set to '/'
LuaTools | fileio: variable 'TEXMFCNF' set to 
'{$SELFAUTODIR,$SELFAUTOPARENT}{,{/share,}/texmf{-local,.local,}/web2c}'
LuaTools | fileio: loading configuration file 
/usr/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf
LuaTools | fileio: preparing 'configuration' for '/usr/share/texmf/web2c'
LuaTools | fileio: 'configuration' saved in 
'/home/xane/luatex-cache/context/6300afb4995fe38c77e9b86ed1ef1028/trees/f7d1b3c25487ab1e1035aff1c53b90da.lua'
LuaTools | fileio: 'configuration' compiled to 
'/home/xane/luatex-cache/context/6300afb4995fe38c77e9b86ed1ef1028/trees/f7d1b3c25487ab1e1035aff1c53b90da.luc'
LuaTools | fileio: locating list of '/home/xane/.texmf-config'
LuaTools | fileio: tex locator '/home/xane/.texmf-config' not found
LuaTools | fileio: locating list of '/home/xane/.texmf-var'
LuaTools | fileio: tex locator '/home/xane/.texmf-var' not found
LuaTools | fileio: locating list of '/home/xane/texmf'
LuaTools | fileio: tex locator '/home/xane/texmf' not found
LuaTools | fileio: locating list of '/etc/texmf'
LuaTools | fileio: tex locator '/etc/texmf' found
LuaTools | fileio: hash '/etc/texmf' appended
LuaTools | fileio: locating list of '/var/lib/texmf'
LuaTools | fileio: tex locator '/var/lib/texmf' found
LuaTools | fileio: hash '/var/lib/texmf' appended
LuaTools | fileio: locating list of '/usr/local/share/texmf'
LuaTools | fileio: tex locator '/usr/local/share/texmf' found
LuaTools | fileio: hash '/usr/local/share/texmf' appended
LuaTools | fileio: locating list of '/usr/share/texmf'
LuaTools | fileio: tex locator '/usr/share/texmf' found
LuaTools | fileio: hash '/usr/share/texmf' appended
LuaTools | fileio: locating list of '/usr/share/texmf-texlive'
LuaTools | fileio: tex locator '/usr/share/texmf-texlive' found
LuaTools | fileio: hash '/usr/share/texmf-texlive' appended
LuaTools | fileio: scanning path '/etc/texmf'
LuaTools | fileio: 77 files found on 24 directories with 10 uppercase 
remappings
LuaTools | fileio: scanning path '/var/lib/texmf'
LuaTools | fileio: 52 files found on 18 directories with 0 uppercase 
remappings
LuaTools | fileio: scanning path '/usr/local/share/texmf'
LuaTools | fileio: 0 files found on 0 directories with 0 uppercase 
remappings
LuaTools | fileio: scanning path '/usr/share/texmf'
LuaTools | fileio: 4612 files found on 303 directories with 300 
uppercase remappings
LuaTools | fileio: scanning path '/usr/share/texmf-texlive'
LuaTools | fileio: 9790 files found on 979 directories with 301 
uppercase remappings
LuaTools | fileio: preparing 'files' for '/usr/local/share/texmf'
LuaTools | fileio: 'files' saved in 
'/home/xane/luatex-cache/context/6300afb4995fe38c77e9b86ed1ef1028/trees/5044cbe2799fe389b078f26ff6b9ee8e.lua'
LuaTools | fileio: 'files' compiled to 
'/home/xane/luatex-cache/context/6300afb4995fe38c77e9b86ed1ef1028/trees/5044cbe2799fe389b078f26ff6b9ee8e.luc'
LuaTools | fileio: preparing 'files' for '/etc/texmf'
LuaTools | fileio: 'files' saved in 
'/home/xane/luatex-cache/context/6300afb4995fe38c77e9b86ed1ef1028/trees/76f9d14d3870a3ca17c588db81902d3d.lua'
LuaTools | fileio: 'files' compiled to 
'/home/xane/luatex-cache/context/6300afb4995fe38c77e9b86ed1ef1028/trees/76f9d14d3870a3ca17c588db81902d3d.luc'
LuaTools | fileio: preparing 'files' for '/usr/share/texmf-texlive'
LuaTools | fileio: 'files' saved in 
'/home/xane/luatex-cache/context/6300afb4995fe38c77e9b86ed1ef1028/trees/3187e2337ee4b2115b66aeca116ccb56.lua'
LuaTools | fileio: 'files' compiled to 
'/home/xane/luatex-cache/context/6300afb4995fe38c77e9b86ed1ef1028/trees/3187e2337ee4b2115b66aeca116ccb56.luc'
LuaTools | fileio: preparing 'files' for '/var/lib/texmf'
LuaTools | fileio: 'files' saved in 
'/home/xane/luatex-cache/context/6300afb4995fe38c77e9b86ed1ef1028/trees/49ce9fb6981e7315a79363280fdfe510.lua'
LuaTools | fileio: 'files' compiled to 
'/home/xane/luatex-cache/context/6300afb4995fe38c77e9b86ed1ef1028/trees/49ce9fb6981e7315a79363280fdfe510.luc'
LuaTools | fileio: preparing 'files' for '/usr/share/texmf'
LuaTools | fileio: 'files' saved in 
'/home/xane/luatex-cache/context/6300afb4995fe38c77e9b86ed1ef1028/trees/0638a6bb4aac17125bf8bd1aa29dc0c8.lua'
LuaTools | fileio: 'files' compiled to 
'/home/xane/luatex-cache/context/6300afb4995fe38c77e9b86ed1ef1028/trees/0638a6bb4aac17125bf8bd1aa29dc0c8.luc'
LuaTools |
LuaTools | runtime: 4.582 seconds

root@negre:~#

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* Re: Ubuntu and Context MKIV
  2010-08-19 11:51   ` Xan
@ 2010-08-19 13:48     ` George N. White III
  2010-08-19 17:07       ` Xan
  2010-08-20  0:11     ` Aditya Mahajan
  2010-08-20  0:13     ` Aditya Mahajan
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: George N. White III @ 2010-08-19 13:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Xan <dxpublica@telefonica.net> wrote:

> Al 19/08/10 12:52, En/na George N. White III ha escrit:
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:15 AM, Xan<dxpublica@telefonica.net>  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have installed context package
>>> [http://packages.ubuntu.com/hu/lucid/context] in ubuntu. In theory it's
>>> the
>>> MKIV package. But when I run context I get:
>>>
>>> MTXrun | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'
>>>
>>> How can I fix it?
>>>
>>
>> Did you run "luatools --generate"?
>
> Yes I dit it.
>
> The output is:
>
> # luatools --generate
> LuaTools | fileio: variable 'SELFAUTOLOC' set to '/usr/bin'
> LuaTools | fileio: variable 'SELFAUTODIR' set to '/usr'
> LuaTools | fileio: variable 'SELFAUTOPARENT' set to '/'
> LuaTools | fileio: variable 'TEXMFCNF' set to
> '{$SELFAUTODIR,$SELFAUTOPARENT}{,{/share,}/texmf{-local,.local,}/web2c}'
> LuaTools | fileio: loading configuration file
> /usr/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf
[...]

Looks OK to me -- at least it finds /usr/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf
and then looks
in Ubuntu/Debian directories (/etc/texmf, /var/lib/texmf, etc).

The next step is to run the checks from the wiki's Debian page
(program versions,
ability to find files, etc.).

Did you have any previous TeX or ConTeXT installed on this system -- a common
source of problems is intermingling multiple TeX systems (as opposed to keeping
each one in a separate tree, which allows you to switch between a number of
different systems).   Once you have verified that the right files are found you
may want to file a bug report against the Ubuntu package.

-- 
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Head of St. Margarets Bay, Nova Scotia
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* Re: Ubuntu and Context MKIV
  2010-08-19 13:48     ` George N. White III
@ 2010-08-19 17:07       ` Xan
  2010-08-20  0:07         ` George N. White III
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Xan @ 2010-08-19 17:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users

Al 19/08/10 15:48, En/na George N. White III ha escrit:
> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Xan<dxpublica@telefonica.net>  wrote:
>
>    
>> Al 19/08/10 12:52, En/na George N. White III ha escrit:
>>      
>>> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:15 AM, Xan<dxpublica@telefonica.net>    wrote:
>>>
>>>        
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I have installed context package
>>>> [http://packages.ubuntu.com/hu/lucid/context] in ubuntu. In theory it's
>>>> the
>>>> MKIV package. But when I run context I get:
>>>>
>>>> MTXrun | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'
>>>>
>>>> How can I fix it?
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> Did you run "luatools --generate"?
>>>        
>> Yes I dit it.
>>
>> The output is:
>>
>> # luatools --generate
>> LuaTools | fileio: variable 'SELFAUTOLOC' set to '/usr/bin'
>> LuaTools | fileio: variable 'SELFAUTODIR' set to '/usr'
>> LuaTools | fileio: variable 'SELFAUTOPARENT' set to '/'
>> LuaTools | fileio: variable 'TEXMFCNF' set to
>> '{$SELFAUTODIR,$SELFAUTOPARENT}{,{/share,}/texmf{-local,.local,}/web2c}'
>> LuaTools | fileio: loading configuration file
>> /usr/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf
>>      
> [...]
>
> Looks OK to me -- at least it finds /usr/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf
> and then looks
> in Ubuntu/Debian directories (/etc/texmf, /var/lib/texmf, etc).
>
> The next step is to run the checks from the wiki's Debian page
> (program versions,
> ability to find files, etc.).
>
> Did you have any previous TeX or ConTeXT installed on this system -- a common
> source of problems is intermingling multiple TeX systems (as opposed to keeping
> each one in a separate tree, which allows you to switch between a number of
> different systems).   Once you have verified that the right files are found you
> may want to file a bug report against the Ubuntu package.
>
>    
I have installed
- texlive
- context
- pgf
packages. That's all.

So what's the problem?
It seems perfect, isn't?

Xan.
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* Re: Ubuntu and Context MKIV
  2010-08-19 17:07       ` Xan
@ 2010-08-20  0:07         ` George N. White III
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: George N. White III @ 2010-08-20  0:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users

On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Xan <dxpublica@telefonica.net> wrote:

> Al 19/08/10 15:48, En/na George N. White III ha escrit:
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Xan<dxpublica@telefonica.net>  wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Al 19/08/10 12:52, En/na George N. White III ha escrit:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:15 AM, Xan<dxpublica@telefonica.net>    wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have installed context package
>>>>> [http://packages.ubuntu.com/hu/lucid/context] in ubuntu. In theory it's
>>>>> the
>>>>> MKIV package. But when I run context I get:
>>>>>
>>>>> MTXrun | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'
>>>>>
>>>>> How can I fix it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Did you run "luatools --generate"?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes I dit it.
>>>
>>> The output is:
>>>
>>> # luatools --generate
>>> LuaTools | fileio: variable 'SELFAUTOLOC' set to '/usr/bin'
>>> LuaTools | fileio: variable 'SELFAUTODIR' set to '/usr'
>>> LuaTools | fileio: variable 'SELFAUTOPARENT' set to '/'
>>> LuaTools | fileio: variable 'TEXMFCNF' set to
>>> '{$SELFAUTODIR,$SELFAUTOPARENT}{,{/share,}/texmf{-local,.local,}/web2c}'
>>> LuaTools | fileio: loading configuration file
>>> /usr/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf
>>>
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> Looks OK to me -- at least it finds /usr/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf
>> and then looks
>> in Ubuntu/Debian directories (/etc/texmf, /var/lib/texmf, etc).
>>
>> The next step is to run the checks from the wiki's Debian page
>> (program versions,
>> ability to find files, etc.).
>>
>> Did you have any previous TeX or ConTeXT installed on this system -- a
>> common
>> source of problems is intermingling multiple TeX systems (as opposed to
>> keeping
>> each one in a separate tree, which allows you to switch between a number
>> of
>> different systems).   Once you have verified that the right files are
>> found you
>> may want to file a bug report against the Ubuntu package.
>>
>>
>
> I have installed
> - texlive
> - context
> - pgf
> packages. That's all.
>
> So what's the problem?
> It seems perfect, isn't?

So there should be not be any conflicts with some other TeX disto.
Are you able to run the
various checks in the Debian wiki page?   I have the same packages on
my (amd64) system
and context is working.   Are you using 32-bit or the 64-bit Ubuntu,
gnome or kde?  When I run
luatools --generate I get more files:

LuaTools | fileio: scanning path '/usr/share/texmf'
LuaTools | fileio: 8540 files found on 612 directories with 310
uppercase remappings
LuaTools | fileio: scanning path '/usr/share/texmf-texlive'
LuaTools | fileio: 17385 files found on 2747 directories with 722
uppercase remappings

maybe some package dependency was missed.  I use TL2010-pretest from CTAN, but
ended up with texlive  because something else (kile?) depends on it,
so it is quite possible
something dependency was left out in your installation.

-- 
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Head of St. Margarets Bay, Nova Scotia
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* Re: Ubuntu and Context MKIV
  2010-08-19 11:51   ` Xan
  2010-08-19 13:48     ` George N. White III
@ 2010-08-20  0:11     ` Aditya Mahajan
  2010-08-20  0:13     ` Aditya Mahajan
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2010-08-20  0:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users

On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, Xan wrote:

> Al 19/08/10 12:52, En/na George N. White III ha escrit:
>>  On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:15 AM, Xan<dxpublica@telefonica.net>  wrote:
>> 
>> >  Hi,
>> > 
>> >  I have installed context package
>> >  [http://packages.ubuntu.com/hu/lucid/context] in ubuntu. In theory it's 
>> >  the
>> >  MKIV package. But when I run context I get:
>> > 
>> >  MTXrun | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'
>> > 
>> >  How can I fix it?
>> >
>>  Did you run "luatools --generate"?
>> 
> Yes I dit it.
>
> The output is:

And even after that "context file" does not work?

What is the output of "luatools mtx-context"?

Does "mtxrun --script context filename" work instead?

Aditya
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* Re: Ubuntu and Context MKIV
  2010-08-19 11:51   ` Xan
  2010-08-19 13:48     ` George N. White III
  2010-08-20  0:11     ` Aditya Mahajan
@ 2010-08-20  0:13     ` Aditya Mahajan
  2010-08-20 12:33       ` George N. White III
  2010-08-20 21:41       ` Xan
  2 siblings, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread
From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2010-08-20  0:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users

On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, Xan wrote:

> Al 19/08/10 12:52, En/na George N. White III ha escrit:
>>  On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:15 AM, Xan<dxpublica@telefonica.net>  wrote:
>> 
>> >  Hi,
>> > 
>> >  I have installed context package
>> >  [http://packages.ubuntu.com/hu/lucid/context] in ubuntu. In theory it's 
>> >  the
>> >  MKIV package. But when I run context I get:
>> > 
>> >  MTXrun | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'
>> > 
>> >  How can I fix it?
>> >
>>  Did you run "luatools --generate"?
>> 
>>
>> 
>> 
> Yes I dit it.
>
> The output is:
>
> # luatools --generate

> '/home/xane/luatex-cache/context/********'
>       ^^^^^
> root@negre:~#
   ^^^^

Wait... are you running luatools --generate as root? Don't do that. Run it 
as a normal user.

Aditya
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* Re: Ubuntu and Context MKIV
  2010-08-19 10:52 ` George N. White III
  2010-08-19 11:51   ` Xan
@ 2010-08-20  9:41   ` Peter Schorsch
  2010-08-22 21:43     ` George N. White III
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread
From: Peter Schorsch @ 2010-08-20  9:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ntg-context

Hi,

I am also using Context on ubuntu - and it works fine here. There is one 
small change I like to do:

 luatools --generate

is creating ~/luatex-cache. As this cache is not hidden it appears on the 
desktop. Is it possible to change that directory into a hidden directory 
e.g. ~/.luatex-cache?

Thanks

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* Re: Ubuntu and Context MKIV
  2010-08-20  0:13     ` Aditya Mahajan
@ 2010-08-20 12:33       ` George N. White III
  2010-08-20 21:41       ` Xan
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From: George N. White III @ 2010-08-20 12:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu> wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, Xan wrote:
>
>> Al 19/08/10 12:52, En/na George N. White III ha escrit:
>>>
>>>  On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 7:15 AM, Xan<dxpublica@telefonica.net>  wrote:
>>>
>>> >  Hi,
>>> > >  I have installed context package
>>> >  [http://packages.ubuntu.com/hu/lucid/context] in ubuntu. In theory
>>> > it's >  the
>>> >  MKIV package. But when I run context I get:
>>> > >  MTXrun | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'
>>> > >  How can I fix it?
>>> >
>>>  Did you run "luatools --generate"?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Yes I dit it.
>>
>> The output is:
>>
>> # luatools --generate
>
>> '/home/xane/luatex-cache/context/********'
>>      ^^^^^
>> root@negre:~#
>
>  ^^^^
>
> Wait... are you running luatools --generate as root? Don't do that. Run it
> as a normal user.

Good catch! I missed that.   To repair the "damage" the OP will need
to run something like: "sudo chmod -R xane:xane ~/luatex-cache" to
restore ownership to the OP.

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* Re: Ubuntu and Context MKIV
  2010-08-20  0:13     ` Aditya Mahajan
  2010-08-20 12:33       ` George N. White III
@ 2010-08-20 21:41       ` Xan
  2010-08-20 22:30         ` George N. White III
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>> Yes I dit it.
>>
>> The output is:
>>
>> # luatools --generate
>
>> '/home/xane/luatex-cache/context/********'
>>       ^^^^^
>> root@negre:~#
>   ^^^^
>
> Wait... are you running luatools --generate as root? Don't do that. 
> Run it as a normal user.
>
> Aditya
> ____

I have errors with normal user:

xan@negre:~$ luatools --generate
LuaTools | fileio: variable 'SELFAUTOLOC' set to '/usr/bin'
LuaTools | fileio: variable 'SELFAUTODIR' set to '/usr'
LuaTools | fileio: variable 'SELFAUTOPARENT' set to '/'
LuaTools | fileio: variable 'TEXMFCNF' set to 
'{$SELFAUTODIR,$SELFAUTOPARENT}{,{/share,}/texmf{-local,.local,}/web2c}'
LuaTools | fileio: loading configuration file 
/usr/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf
LuaTools | fileio: preparing 'configuration' for '/usr/share/texmf/web2c'
LuaTools | fileio: 'configuration' saved in 
'/home/xan/luatex-cache/context/6300afb4995fe38c77e9b86ed1ef1028/trees/f7d1b3c25487ab1e1035aff1c53b90da.lua'
LuaTools | fileio: 'configuration' compiled to 
'/home/xan/luatex-cache/context/6300afb4995fe38c77e9b86ed1ef1028/trees/f7d1b3c25487ab1e1035aff1c53b90da.luc'
LuaTools | fileio: locating list of '/home/xan/.texmf-config'
LuaTools | fileio: tex locator '/home/xan/.texmf-config' not found
LuaTools | fileio: locating list of '/home/xan/.texmf-var'
LuaTools | fileio: tex locator '/home/xan/.texmf-var' not found
LuaTools | fileio: locating list of '/home/xan/texmf'
LuaTools | fileio: tex locator '/home/xan/texmf' not found
LuaTools | fileio: locating list of '/etc/texmf'
LuaTools | fileio: tex locator '/etc/texmf' found
LuaTools | fileio: hash '/etc/texmf' appended
LuaTools | fileio: locating list of '/var/lib/texmf'
LuaTools | fileio: tex locator '/var/lib/texmf' found
LuaTools | fileio: hash '/var/lib/texmf' appended
LuaTools | fileio: locating list of '/usr/local/share/texmf'
LuaTools | fileio: tex locator '/usr/local/share/texmf' found
LuaTools | fileio: hash '/usr/local/share/texmf' appended
LuaTools | fileio: locating list of '/usr/share/texmf'
LuaTools | fileio: tex locator '/usr/share/texmf' found
LuaTools | fileio: hash '/usr/share/texmf' appended
LuaTools | fileio: locating list of '/usr/share/texmf-texlive'
LuaTools | fileio: tex locator '/usr/share/texmf-texlive' found
LuaTools | fileio: hash '/usr/share/texmf-texlive' appended
LuaTools | fileio: scanning path '/etc/texmf'
/usr/bin/luatools:5169: cannot open /etc/texmf/web2c/pdftex/: Permission 
denied
xan@negre:~$

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* Re: Ubuntu and Context MKIV
  2010-08-20 21:41       ` Xan
@ 2010-08-20 22:30         ` George N. White III
  2010-08-21 14:58           ` Xan
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From: George N. White III @ 2010-08-20 22:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 6:41 PM, Xan <dxpublica@telefonica.net> wrote:
>
>>> Yes I dit it.
>>>
>>> The output is:
>>>
>>> # luatools --generate
>>
>>> '/home/xane/luatex-cache/context/********'
>>>      ^^^^^
>>> root@negre:~#
>>
>>  ^^^^
>>
>> Wait... are you running luatools --generate as root? Don't do that. Run it
>> as a normal user.
>>
>> Aditya
>> ____
>
> I have errors with normal user:
>
> xan@negre:~$ luatools --generate
> LuaTools | fileio: variable 'SELFAUTOLOC' set to '/usr/bin'
> LuaTools | fileio: variable 'SELFAUTODIR' set to '/usr'
> LuaTools | fileio: variable 'SELFAUTOPARENT' set to '/'
> LuaTools | fileio: variable 'TEXMFCNF' set to
> '{$SELFAUTODIR,$SELFAUTOPARENT}{,{/share,}/texmf{-local,.local,}/web2c}'
> LuaTools | fileio: loading configuration file
> /usr/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf
> LuaTools | fileio: preparing 'configuration' for '/usr/share/texmf/web2c'
> LuaTools | fileio: 'configuration' saved in
> '/home/xan/luatex-cache/context/6300afb4995fe38c77e9b86ed1ef1028/trees/f7d1b3c25487ab1e1035aff1c53b90da.lua'
> LuaTools | fileio: 'configuration' compiled to
> '/home/xan/luatex-cache/context/6300afb4995fe38c77e9b86ed1ef1028/trees/f7d1b3c25487ab1e1035aff1c53b90da.luc'
> LuaTools | fileio: locating list of '/home/xan/.texmf-config'
> LuaTools | fileio: tex locator '/home/xan/.texmf-config' not found
> LuaTools | fileio: locating list of '/home/xan/.texmf-var'
> LuaTools | fileio: tex locator '/home/xan/.texmf-var' not found
> LuaTools | fileio: locating list of '/home/xan/texmf'
> LuaTools | fileio: tex locator '/home/xan/texmf' not found
> LuaTools | fileio: locating list of '/etc/texmf'
> LuaTools | fileio: tex locator '/etc/texmf' found
> LuaTools | fileio: hash '/etc/texmf' appended
> LuaTools | fileio: locating list of '/var/lib/texmf'
> LuaTools | fileio: tex locator '/var/lib/texmf' found
> LuaTools | fileio: hash '/var/lib/texmf' appended
> LuaTools | fileio: locating list of '/usr/local/share/texmf'
> LuaTools | fileio: tex locator '/usr/local/share/texmf' found
> LuaTools | fileio: hash '/usr/local/share/texmf' appended
> LuaTools | fileio: locating list of '/usr/share/texmf'
> LuaTools | fileio: tex locator '/usr/share/texmf' found
> LuaTools | fileio: hash '/usr/share/texmf' appended
> LuaTools | fileio: locating list of '/usr/share/texmf-texlive'
> LuaTools | fileio: tex locator '/usr/share/texmf-texlive' found
> LuaTools | fileio: hash '/usr/share/texmf-texlive' appended
> LuaTools | fileio: scanning path '/etc/texmf'
> /usr/bin/luatools:5169: cannot open /etc/texmf/web2c/pdftex/: Permission
> denied
> xan@negre:~$

When I run luatools --generate (as normal user) there are no errors.

I don't have /etc/texmf/web2c/pdftex on my system.   On debian/ubuntu
/etc/texmf/web2c is for configuration files, but perhaps some program
tried to put formats and logs there instead of the proper /var/lib/texmf:

$ locate texmf/web2c/pdftex
/var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex
/var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/amstex.fmt
/var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/amstex.log
/var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/cont-en.fmt
/var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/cont-en.log
/var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/etex.fmt
/var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/etex.log
/var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/latex.fmt
/var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/latex.log
/var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/mptopdf.fmt
/var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/mptopdf.log
/var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/pdfetex.fmt
/var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/pdfetex.log
/var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/pdflatex.fmt
/var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/pdflatex.log
/var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/pdftex.fmt
/var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/pdftex.log



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* Re: Ubuntu and Context MKIV
  2010-08-20 22:30         ` George N. White III
@ 2010-08-21 14:58           ` Xan
  2010-08-21 19:06             ` George N. White III
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From: Xan @ 2010-08-21 14:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Al 21/08/10 00:30, En/na George N. White III ha escrit:
> O
> When I run luatools --generate (as normal user) there are no errors.
>
> I don't have /etc/texmf/web2c/pdftex on my system.   On debian/ubuntu
> /etc/texmf/web2c is for configuration files, but perhaps some program
> tried to put formats and logs there instead of the proper /var/lib/texmf:
>
> $ locate texmf/web2c/pdftex
> /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex
> /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/amstex.fmt
> /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/amstex.log
> /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/cont-en.fmt
> /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/cont-en.log
> /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/etex.fmt
> /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/etex.log
> /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/latex.fmt
> /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/latex.log
> /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/mptopdf.fmt
> /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/mptopdf.log
> /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/pdfetex.fmt
> /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/pdfetex.log
> /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/pdflatex.fmt
> /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/pdflatex.log
> /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/pdftex.fmt
> /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/pdftex.log
>
>
>
>    
So I don't know what have to do!!!

Xan.
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* Re: Ubuntu and Context MKIV
  2010-08-21 14:58           ` Xan
@ 2010-08-21 19:06             ` George N. White III
  2010-08-22 14:35               ` Xan
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From: George N. White III @ 2010-08-21 19:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Xan <dxpublica@telefonica.net> wrote:
> Al 21/08/10 00:30, En/na George N. White III ha escrit:
>>
>> O
>> When I run luatools --generate (as normal user) there are no errors.
>>
>> I don't have /etc/texmf/web2c/pdftex on my system.   On debian/ubuntu
>> /etc/texmf/web2c is for configuration files, but perhaps some program
>> tried to put formats and logs there instead of the proper /var/lib/texmf:
>>
>> $ locate texmf/web2c/pdftex
>> /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex
>> /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/amstex.fmt
>> /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/amstex.log
>> /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/cont-en.fmt
>> /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/cont-en.log
>> /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/etex.fmt
>> /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/etex.log
>> /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/latex.fmt
>> /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/latex.log
>> /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/mptopdf.fmt
>> /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/mptopdf.log
>> /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/pdfetex.fmt
>> /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/pdfetex.log
>> /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/pdflatex.fmt
>> /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/pdflatex.log
>> /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/pdftex.fmt
>> /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/pdftex.log
>>
>
> So I don't know what have to do!!!

It is hard to say without more information.   You appear to
have a /etc/texmf/web2c/pdftex directory.   I suspect this
directory was created erroneously when making formats, in
which case it would contain .fmt and .log files.   This may mean
that one of the tools used to generate formats has a bug --
perhaps only triggered when run using the "root" account,
which is usually disabled on ubuntu, but this is
only conjecture.

If you have current hardware with ample disk and RAM
you could probably sort out the problem by installing a
fresh Ubuntu in a VM, repeating the steps you took to
get into this unhappy state but checking after each step
to figure out exactly when the configuration goes astray.
You can also experiment with various repair strategies
to see what works before trying to repair your main
installation.   I actually tried this, and was not able to
cause context to fail.   Using "sudo luatools --generate"
results in cache files that are owned by "root" but
still readable by a regular user.

Running luatools, fmtutil, etc. from "root" still didn't
produce /etc/texmf/web2c/pdftex so I'm at a loss to
figure out how that could happen.   It would be nice
to know how it happened so steps can be taken to
prevent others from ending up in the same predicament.

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* Re: Ubuntu and Context MKIV
  2010-08-21 19:06             ` George N. White III
@ 2010-08-22 14:35               ` Xan
  2010-08-22 17:23                 ` Aditya Mahajan
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From: Xan @ 2010-08-22 14:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
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I file a bug:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/context/+bug/622253

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* Re: Ubuntu and Context MKIV
  2010-08-22 14:35               ` Xan
@ 2010-08-22 17:23                 ` Aditya Mahajan
  2010-08-22 21:43                   ` George N. White III
  2010-08-23  7:50                   ` Xan
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From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2010-08-22 17:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Sun, 22 Aug 2010, Xan wrote:

> I file a bug:
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/context/+bug/622253
>
> Please, provide any comments you want.

What you have reported there is not a bug. After installing ConTeXt, you 
need to run (luatools --generate) as a normal user; only then 
mtx-contex.lua will be found.

In your case, running luatools --generate does not help, and that is the 
bug.

Aditya
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* Re: Ubuntu and Context MKIV
  2010-08-20  9:41   ` Peter Schorsch
@ 2010-08-22 21:43     ` George N. White III
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From: George N. White III @ 2010-08-22 21:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 6:41 AM, Peter Schorsch <tralalas@freenet.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am also using Context on ubuntu - and it works fine here. There is one
> small change I like to do:
>
>  luatools --generate
>
> is creating ~/luatex-cache. As this cache is not hidden it appears on the
> desktop. Is it possible to change that directory into a hidden directory
> e.g. ~/.luatex-cache?

Yes -- see "/usr/share/doc/context/README.MarkIV"

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* Re: Ubuntu and Context MKIV
  2010-08-22 17:23                 ` Aditya Mahajan
@ 2010-08-22 21:43                   ` George N. White III
  2010-08-23  7:53                     ` Xan
  2010-08-23  7:50                   ` Xan
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From: George N. White III @ 2010-08-22 21:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu> wrote:

> On Sun, 22 Aug 2010, Xan wrote:
>
>> I file a bug:
>>
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/context/+bug/622253
>>
>> Please, provide any comments you want.
>
> What you have reported there is not a bug. After installing ConTeXt, you
> need to run (luatools --generate) as a normal user; only then mtx-contex.lua
> will be found.

The need to run "luatools --generate" is not sufficiently
visible (it is in README.MarkIV).   Any package that requires
user configuration steps should have a mechanism to inform
the user that such steps are required.  I suspect the damage
was already done by the time the OP tried "luatools --generate" ,
and was perhaps made worse by running the command from
a root prompt.

> In your case, running luatools --generate does not help, and that is the
> bug.

You are right, but with a system like context it is sometimes better to
avoid stressing the tools by following standard procedures.

The OP ended up with /etc/texmf/web2c/pdftex, which suggests that
MkII and/or fmtutil tried to install formats under /etc/texmf/web2c.   It may
be too much to expect luatools to recover when things are not where they
belong and files under $HOME are not owned by the user.

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* Re: Ubuntu and Context MKIV
  2010-08-22 17:23                 ` Aditya Mahajan
  2010-08-22 21:43                   ` George N. White III
@ 2010-08-23  7:50                   ` Xan
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From: Xan @ 2010-08-23  7:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Al 22/08/10 19:23, En/na Aditya Mahajan ha escrit:
> On Sun, 22 Aug 2010, Xan wrote:
>
>> I file a bug:
>>
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/context/+bug/622253
>>
>> Please, provide any comments you want.
>
> What you have reported there is not a bug. After installing ConTeXt, 
> you need to run (luatools --generate) as a normal user; only then 
> mtx-contex.lua will be found.
>
> In your case, running luatools --generate does not help, and that is 
> the bug.
>
> Aditya
> ___________________________________________________________________________________ 
>
The bug is against I can't use package. At least, a notice in the 
package could warning of this. Why each user has to run luatools? Is it 
not possible to have "ready" context package?

Xan.
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* Re: Ubuntu and Context MKIV
  2010-08-22 21:43                   ` George N. White III
@ 2010-08-23  7:53                     ` Xan
  2010-08-23 11:11                       ` George N. White III
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From: Xan @ 2010-08-23  7:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Al 22/08/10 23:43, En/na George N. White III ha escrit:
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Aditya Mahajan<adityam@umich.edu>  wrote:
>
>    
>> On Sun, 22 Aug 2010, Xan wrote:
>>
>>      
>>> I file a bug:
>>>
>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/context/+bug/622253
>>>
>>> Please, provide any comments you want.
>>>        
>> What you have reported there is not a bug. After installing ConTeXt, you
>> need to run (luatools --generate) as a normal user; only then mtx-contex.lua
>> will be found.
>>      
> The need to run "luatools --generate" is not sufficiently
> visible (it is in README.MarkIV).   Any package that requires
> user configuration steps should have a mechanism to inform
> the user that such steps are required.  I suspect the damage
> was already done by the time the OP tried "luatools --generate" ,
> and was perhaps made worse by running the command from
> a root prompt.
>
>    
>> In your case, running luatools --generate does not help, and that is the
>> bug.
>>      
> You are right, but with a system like context it is sometimes better to
> avoid stressing the tools by following standard procedures.
>
> The OP ended up with /etc/texmf/web2c/pdftex, which suggests that
> MkII and/or fmtutil tried to install formats under /etc/texmf/web2c.   It may
> be too much to expect luatools to recover when things are not where they
> belong and files under $HOME are not owned by the user.
>
>    
Thanks George of confirming the bug.
In my opinion, the context package has to be ready for running. No 
intervention of user should be needed. For the other hand, I have 
problems running luatools, so we have a bug: or the first or the second.

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* Re: Ubuntu and Context MKIV
  2010-08-23  7:53                     ` Xan
@ 2010-08-23 11:11                       ` George N. White III
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From: George N. White III @ 2010-08-23 11:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 4:53 AM, Xan <dxpublica@telefonica.net> wrote:

> Thanks George of confirming the bug.

> In my opinion, the context package has to be ready for running. No
> intervention of user should be needed. For the other hand, I have problems
> running luatools, so we have a bug: or the first or the second.

Many packages require some user configuration before they can be used.
Some hide this and do the configuration in the background the first time
they are run, which assumes that the configuration is very robust (as you
can see, luatools may not yet qualify as a robust tool).   I do think the
requirement to run luatools should be made more visible to users, e.g.,
by having the context wrapper script make some checks before attempting
to run mtxrun, or by changing mtxrun itself (the advantage of making
changes in the wrapper is that they can be more distro specific and point
to /usr/share/doc/context/README.MarkIV).

As for the 2nd part of the problem, we don't have enough information to
know why "luatools --generate" isn't working for you.   I'm not sure exactly
what you have tried to get it working, but it would be helpful if you can do
the following:

1.  document the current status:

    run (as normal user) "luatools --variables", then use the value of
    TEXMFCACHE for:

    "ls -lR <TEXMFCACHE>"  (e.g., paste in the value shown for
     TEXMFCACHE)

2.  check that the luatex caches have suitable permissions, or just
delete them and try to recreate using a normal user login.

-- 
George N. White III <aa056@chebucto.ns.ca>
Head of St. Margarets Bay, Nova Scotia
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2010-08-19 13:48     ` George N. White III
2010-08-19 17:07       ` Xan
2010-08-20  0:07         ` George N. White III
2010-08-20  0:11     ` Aditya Mahajan
2010-08-20  0:13     ` Aditya Mahajan
2010-08-20 12:33       ` George N. White III
2010-08-20 21:41       ` Xan
2010-08-20 22:30         ` George N. White III
2010-08-21 14:58           ` Xan
2010-08-21 19:06             ` George N. White III
2010-08-22 14:35               ` Xan
2010-08-22 17:23                 ` Aditya Mahajan
2010-08-22 21:43                   ` George N. White III
2010-08-23  7:53                     ` Xan
2010-08-23 11:11                       ` George N. White III
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