Re: Page Numbering Hell

["Thomas A. Schmitz" <thomas.schmitz@uni-bonn.de>]

Since you weren't satisfied with the reply you got, here's another  
attempt to please you:
On Oct 21, 2009, at 8:36 AM, Bryant Eastham wrote:

> All-
>
> A few days ago when I first stumbled on ConTeXt I was very, very  
> excited. I have some 500 pages of technical documentation that could  
> benefit from this, particularly since I need Japanese font support.  
> But it has to be real.
>
> I’m sorry if this sounds caustic, but after 12 hours of failed  
> attempts to even get a minimal document formatted I have some  
> serious questions for the list:

What do you mean "get even a minimal document formatted"? You're  
complaining that you don't find "current examples that actually work,"  
yet instead of a real minimal example, you post only rants. Give us a  
real example of what you have tried, and someone may be able to help  
you.
>
> 1.       Is Mark IV real? I am only somewhat joking here – after  
> spending hours searching for reasonable documentation on even the  
> most trivial options, I am left wondering whether this is something  
> I want to use…

No Mkiv isn't real. For two years, we've all been part of this  
elaborate hoax. We pretend we're using a software that doesn't exist.

> 2.       ConTeXt looks great. But what is current? Seriously, I like  
> the look and the support (particularly Unicode). But going over  
> documentation I cannot make heads or tails of what to do. Mark II?  
> Mark IV? TeTeX? LuaTeX? If I really want to use this, what should I  
> use?

TeTeX is the odd item in your list. It's a defunct TeX system that  
hasn't been updated in three years or so. You may have meant XeTeX. On  
a serious note: For 95 % of ConTeXt, it doesn't matter what engine you  
use. The high-level code in your document should give identical output  
with pdftext (= mkii), XeTeX, or the new luatex engine (= mkiv). If  
you need Japanese, you will probably want to use XeTeX or luatex. For  
the differences between mkiv and mkii, see http://wiki.contextgarden.net/MkIV_Differences

> 3.       Having answered #2, where in the world is a reference  
> manual!!! I mean one that actually *documents the options*.

What documentation did you read? cont-eni.pdf? The wiki? Have you  
looked at all the manuals available on http://www.pragma-ade.com/show-man-1.htm 
  ? cont-eni.pdf is still the current documentation; if you want to  
have a brief look at options, I would recommend http://texshow.contextgarden.net/

> 4.       Having answered #3, are there any current examples that  
> actually work? The snippets from the mailing are great, but they are  
> just snippets. That doesn’t help me.

What is missing on http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Sample_documents ?  
There are several sample documents.

>
> Now, to resolve my immediate issue, and just because I will not be  
> able to sleep well until I figure this out (yes, I am fixated on  
> this).
>
> I want this document structure:
>
> Contents
> 1.       Chapter                                   1-1
> 1.1 Section                             1-2
> 2.   Chapter 2                                  2-1
>     2.1 Section                                 2-2
>
> Table of contents on page “i”.
> Even/odd, each chapter starts on right page.
> Page number (as in 2-2) in top margin.
> Mark IV, Lua document.
>
> I have tried hundreds of different combinations. If it cannot do  
> this, the I will (with sadness) move on. I’m sure that it would take  
> someone who understands this about 5 minutes to write (if that).
>
Then show us a minimal example of one of these hundreds of  
combinations, and somebody will look at it and may have an idea. But I  
doubt that anybody will want to write this for you.

Thomas
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