From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/90545 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gerben Wierda Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: mkiv and lettrine Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 22:51:52 +0100 Message-ID: <4CDA559C-E75A-4325-91F7-FFD52ABBF16B@rna.nl> References: <54F2EFE5.1060709@wxs.nl> <75F4D72C-6E44-4CF8-8415-B45D927E95B9@rna.nl> <671AB9BB-3078-4DA1-87B9-5A9FB57B82F1@rna.nl> <54FECF6D.1020208@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1826584154==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1426024371 22049 80.91.229.3 (10 Mar 2015 21:52:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 21:52:51 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Mar 10 22:52:39 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([5.39.185.229]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YVS4s-0000ga-PG for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Mar 2015 22:52:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A0BC1022A for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2015 22:52:38 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id IezbAJJuI8yH for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2015 22:52:36 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E6B10230 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2015 22:52:08 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E519101EC for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2015 22:52:02 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id sAdwDfT5j2jw for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2015 22:51:59 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter4-til.mf.surf.net (filter4-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.220]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C475101E8 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2015 22:51:58 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail.rna.nl (D57D7632.static.ziggozakelijk.nl [213.125.118.50]) by filter4-til.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id t2ALpvsY004008 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2015 22:51:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.rna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C1421527CE1 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2015 22:51:57 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rna.nl Original-Received: from mail.rna.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (vanroodewierda.rna.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wOLvb5RFchW5 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2015 22:51:54 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from luna-wifi.rna.nl (luna-wifi.rna.nl [192.168.2.89]) by mail.rna.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B548E1527CC6 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2015 22:51:53 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: ntg-context@ntg.nl, base:default, @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=213.125.118.50; country=NL; region=North Brabant; city=Tilburg; latitude=51.5555; longitude=5.0913; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=51.5555,5.0913&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0VO1VPWHM - ddc50d8bdf0c - 20150310 (trained as not-spam) Received-SPF: none (filter4-til.mf.surf.net: domain of gerben.wierda@rna.nl does not designate permitted sender hosts) receiver=filter4-til.mf.surf.net; client-ip=213.125.118.50; envelope-from=; helo=mail.rna.nl; identity=mailfrom X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.220 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: "ntg-context" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:90545 Archived-At: --===============1826584154== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_BB6163AE-34EF-4323-AD84-A5BBEEA59F5F" --Apple-Mail=_BB6163AE-34EF-4323-AD84-A5BBEEA59F5F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 After studying that, I=92ve been unable to find out how to do the = following. \starttext \placeinitial {``L}{\kap{\bf et me}} tell you a little story.\index{Wittgenstein+ice floor analogy} There was once a young man who dreamed of reducing the world to pure logic. Because he = was a very clever young man, he actually managed to do it. When he had = finished his work, he stood back and admired it. It was beautiful! A world purged of imperfection and indetermenency. Countless acres of gleaming ice = stretching to the horizon. So the clever young man looked around the world he had = created and decided to explore it. He took one step forward and fell flat on his = back. You see, he had forgotten about friction! The ice was smooth and level = and stainless, but you couldn't walk there. So the clever young man sat down = and wept bitter tears. But as he grew into a wise old man, he came to = understand that roughness and ambiguity aren't imperfections, they are what make = the \stoptext I=92d like to - Have ``L in the initial (quote mark + L) - Have the initial a bit in the margin, but not fully - Have the top of the initial not rise above the top of the first line On 10 Mar 2015, at 18:35, luigi scarso wrote: >=20 >=20 > On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 6:11 PM, Gerben Wierda = wrote: > On 10 Mar 2015, at 12:03, Hans Hagen wrote: >=20 > > On 3/10/2015 11:38 AM, Gerben Wierda wrote: > >> Nobody? Is there a way to get the =91more options=92 mentioned on > >> ConTeXtgarden to work in mkiv? > > > > there are some examples in the test suits (typesetting/initials*) >=20 > And where are the test suites? They=92re not part of the distribution. >=20 >=20 > http://www.pragma-ade.nl/context/latest/cont-tst.7z >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > luigi > = __________________________________________________________________________= _________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry = to the Wiki! >=20 > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / = http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > = __________________________________________________________________________= _________ --Apple-Mail=_BB6163AE-34EF-4323-AD84-A5BBEEA59F5F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 After = studying that, I=92ve been unable to find out how to do the = following.

\starttext
\placeinitial = {``L}{\kap{\bf et me}} tell you a = little
story.\index{Wittgenstein+ice floor analogy} There was = once a
young man who dreamed of reducing the world to pure = logic. Because he was a
very clever young man, he actually = managed to do it. When he had finished his
work, he stood back = and admired it. It was beautiful! A world purged = of
imperfection and indetermenency. Countless acres of = gleaming ice stretching to
the horizon.  So the clever = young man looked around the world he had created
and decided = to explore it. He took one step forward and fell flat on his = back.
You see, he had forgotten about friction! The ice was = smooth and level and
stainless, but you couldn't walk there. = So the clever young man sat down and
wept bitter tears. But as = he grew into a wise old man, he came to understand
that = roughness and ambiguity aren't imperfections, they are what make = the
\stoptext

I=92d like = to
- Have ``L in the initial (quote mark + L)
- Have = the initial a bit in the margin, but not fully
- Have the top = of the initial not rise above the top of the first = line

On 10 Mar 2015, at 18:35, luigi = scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com> = wrote:



On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 6:11 PM, Gerben Wierda = <gerben.wierda@rna.nl> = wrote:
On 10 Mar 2015, at = 12:03, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:

> On 3/10/2015 11:38 AM, Gerben Wierda wrote:
>> Nobody? Is there a way to get the =91more options=92 mentioned = on
>> ConTeXtgarden to work in mkiv?
>
> there are some examples in the test suits = (typesetting/initials*)

And where are the test suites? They=92re not part of the = distribution.





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