From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/63654 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Philip Taylor (Webmaster, Ret'd)" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context,gmane.comp.tex.texhax Subject: Re: [texhax] Choosing TeX um ... stuff Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 10:56:49 +0000 Message-ID: <4CE50671.7010609@Rhul.Ac.Uk> References: <4CE44E78.3040601@Rhul.Ac.Uk> <1290031564.4ce451cc54c84@imp.free.fr> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1290077826 11070 80.91.229.12 (18 Nov 2010 10:57:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 10:57:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: texhax@tug.org, mailing list for ConTeXt users To: Paul Isambert Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Nov 18 11:57:02 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PJ2An-00068i-7P for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 11:57:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 436F1CA851; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 11:57:00 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id HRmYTtxY0qg5; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 11:56:57 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F613CA84C; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 11:56:57 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3AFACA84C for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 11:56:55 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id uq3-nW-8XiGW for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 11:56:53 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter1-til.mf.surf.net (filter1-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.217]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95B89CA82B for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 11:56:53 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from relay.ptn-ipout01.plus.net (relay.ptn-ipout01.plus.net [212.159.7.35]) by filter1-til.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id oAIAuq7F019664 for ; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 11:56:53 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAA+V5ExUXebr/2dsb2JhbACiUXG0TIgzhUsEhRKFSA Original-Received: from outmx07.plus.net ([84.93.230.235]) by relay.ptn-ipout01.plus.net with ESMTP; 18 Nov 2010 10:56:52 +0000 Original-Received: from ph1l1ptayl0r.plus.com ([212.159.114.50] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by outmx07.plus.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1PJ2Ad-0007N9-Ra; Thu, 18 Nov 2010 10:56:52 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.15) Gecko/20101027 SeaMonkey/2.0.10 In-Reply-To: <1290031564.4ce451cc54c84@imp.free.fr> X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=212.159.7.35; country=GB; latitude=54.0000; longitude=-2.0000; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=54.0000,-2.0000&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 08DwyUQBK - 4b3e9af81784 - 20101118 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.217 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:63654 gmane.comp.tex.texhax:14456 Archived-At: Paul Isambert wrote: > And plain TeX doesn't have a lot of documentation. Anyway there isn't much to > document. Basically using plain TeX means you need a very good knowledge of the > engine, and you'll write tons of macros (in a way there are no plain TeX users, > only users of personal formats based on plain). All true, except for the first part, where there is plenty of documentation available : The TeXbook, TeX by Topic, SvB's mammoth \TeX} in Practice, plus many others listed at Nelson Beebe's http://ftp.math.utah.edu/pub//tex/bib/texbook1.html > Philip, plain TeX isn't exactly mainstream anymore, and ConTeXt probably beats > it on this point. And ConTeXt is already more than 15 years old, so it's not so > new, although it does keep moving. I'll address these later : have to leave now. ** Phil. ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________