From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/65599 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Comment on new "Page Design" Chapter for new manual. Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:24:04 +0100 Message-ID: <4D42DF94.8080102@wxs.nl> References: <201101271741.36502.john@wexfordpress.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1296228272 30186 80.91.229.12 (28 Jan 2011 15:24:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 15:24:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: John Culleton To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Jan 28 16:24:27 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PiqBV-0003KP-6n for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:24:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE93CCAAF7; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:24:24 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id wWw291F6Ekq5; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:24:21 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D1A0CAA06; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:24:21 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F94FCAA06 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:24:20 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id keXMAJw44vlH for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:24:18 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter4-til.mf.surf.net (filter4-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.220]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27C21CAA04 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:24:18 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from smtp.ziggozakelijk.nl (D57D1DA2.static.ziggozakelijk.nl [213.125.29.162]) by filter4-til.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id p0SFOGfb016464 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:24:17 +0100 X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=loggedin (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=10.100.1.100; Original-Received: from [10.100.1.100] (unverified [10.100.1.100]) by pragma-net.nl (SurgeMail 5.1c2) with ESMTP id 2172-1713362 for multiple; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:24:10 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 ThunderBrowse/3.3.4 In-Reply-To: <201101271741.36502.john@wexfordpress.com> X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-9 X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=213.125.29.162; country=NL; region=11; city=Den Haag; latitude=52.0833; longitude=4.3000; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.0833,4.3000&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 05E13ohtw - 4fc2a6150981 - 20110128 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.220 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:65599 Archived-At: On 27-1-2011 11:41, John Culleton wrote: > The question of page dimensions can be very confusing for the raw > beginner. I suggest the something like the following as a lead in: > ----------------------------------------------------------- > For a printed page we really have to deal with three different sets of > dimensions. The body of the text exclusive of headers, footers etc. is > called the type block. In TeX the measurements of the type block are > called \hsize and \vsize. When text is being laid out each paragraph > is generally no wider than the \hsize and when \vsize is exceeded the > page is ended and a new one is started. hsize and vsize are more general and depend on where one accesses them, setting them will seldom work out well as they get set (and synchronized) depending on \setuplayout asignments > The actual page size of the finished document is measured with > \pdfpagewidth and \pdfpageheight. For most documents this is the last > set of dimensions needed. In a few cases "camera ready copy" is > required which means that the final printed page image is centered on a > larger piece of paper stock, often with trim marks indicating the > boundaries of the page size. pdfpagewidth and pdfpageheight are not to be used directly in context, \setuppapersize is to be used; setting the dimensions directly will have side effects > For example here are the dimensions for a book recently printed: > hsize =4.25 in > vsize =7 in > > pdfpagewidth = 6 in > pdfpageheight = 9 in > > stockwidth = 8.5 in > stockheight = 11 in. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________