From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/65711 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: beta Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2011 09:43:00 +0100 Message-ID: <4D47C794.1020205@wxs.nl> References: <4D46E824.2040505@wxs.nl> <5CA40264-349F-4E62-B425-D97AB13361FC@gmail.com> <1A865E47-2811-45D7-878C-14EFE1EA08D2@uva.nl> <4D47296E.4040108@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1296549806 14379 80.91.229.12 (1 Feb 2011 08:43:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 08:43:26 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Feb 01 09:43:22 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PkBpZ-00081k-Pe for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Feb 2011 09:43:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D7A3CA95E; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 09:43:21 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Sw0Bph7CrAeg; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 09:43:17 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95BB7CA944; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 09:43:17 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45957CA944 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 09:43:16 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id MvqElKJ3h4AK for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 09:43:04 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter4-nij.mf.surf.net (filter4-nij.mf.surf.net [195.169.124.155]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFC1DCA940 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 09:43:04 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from smtp.ziggozakelijk.nl (D57D1DA2.static.ziggozakelijk.nl [213.125.29.162]) by filter4-nij.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id p118h38A021967 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 09:43:04 +0100 X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=loggedin (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=10.100.1.100; Original-Received: from [10.100.1.100] (unverified [10.100.1.100]) by pragma-net.nl (SurgeMail 5.1c2) with ESMTP id 2670-1713362 for multiple; Tue, 01 Feb 2011 09:42:59 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 ThunderBrowse/3.3.4 In-Reply-To: X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-9 X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=213.125.29.162; country=NL; region=11; city=Den Haag; latitude=52.0833; longitude=4.3000; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.0833,4.3000&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 04E2wH3io - 970ec9ae1eb6 - 20110201 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 195.169.124.155 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:65711 Archived-At: On 1-2-2011 6:53, Vnpenguin wrote: > On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 22:28, Hans Hagen wrote: >> On 31-1-2011 7:11, Hans van der Meer wrote: >> >>> Thanks for changing things that way between one and the other. I am >>> starting to get a bit choleric about all things that constantly seem broken >>> with the next update. Sorry for the sour note but these are costing me hours >>> to iron out, time I do not have at the moment. >> >> well, no one forces you to update betas >> >> also, as long as we're in transition to mkiv you can expect an occasional >> hickup, after all, i have only a few machines to test > > It's better to have someone could give you a hand. > In the long term, something like "Release Team" would be a must for > ConTeXt development. With this team, we can do some "Unit testing" for > each release in order to minimize problem. to some extend this is what the beta is for ... because mkiv is a moving target it sort of replaces the current, but if i can imagine that users wait a few days with updating till there are no problems reported concerning testing ... there is a slowly growing test suite, and i guess that at some point Luigi will run it alongside his module documentation runs .. you can offer him help with that (sanjoy also has made some test setup) in this particular case (adaption of mtxrun) testing is somewhat problematic as we need a test-minimal alongside the regular one and that might happen when mojca has set up the new machine Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________