* beta
@ 2011-01-31 16:49 Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-01-31 16:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi,
I uploaded a new beta.
Hans
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* Re: beta
2011-01-31 16:49 beta Hans Hagen
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From: Otared Kavian @ 2011-01-31 17:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi Hans,
I uploaded the new beta with the Minimals, but neither mkii nor mkiv work anymore…
I get
MTXrun | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'
and
luatools --generate
gives the same result.
Has something changed in first-setup.sh for Mac OS X and other machines (I followed the thread about that file being changed for Windows by Mojca, but I don't know about other operating systems).
I am reporting this just to let you know: I don't have any problem going back to ConTexT version 2011.01.25.
Best regards: OK
On 31 janv. 2011, at 17:49, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I uploaded a new beta.
>
> Hans
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* Re: beta
2011-01-31 17:33 ` beta Otared Kavian
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From: Thomas Schmitz @ 2011-01-31 17:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 18:33:57 +0100
Otared Kavian <otared@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Hans,
>
> I uploaded the new beta with the Minimals, but neither
>mkii nor mkiv work anymore
> I get
> MTXrun | unknown script 'context.lua' or
>'mtx-context.lua'
> and
> luatools --generate
> gives the same result.
This has been deprecated for quite a while now; you have
to run
mtxrun --generate
> Has something changed in first-setup.sh for Mac OS X and
>other machines (I followed the thread about that file
>being changed for Windows by Mojca, but I don't know
>about other operating systems).
I see the same thing on linux: you have to run mtxrun
--generate and mktexlsr and texexec --make by hand now;
after that, mkiv and mkii will run.
I assume that's a result of our discussion last week, but
not quite what Hans and Mojca are aiming at...
Thomas
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* Re: beta
2011-01-31 17:45 ` beta Thomas Schmitz
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From: Otared Kavian @ 2011-01-31 17:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi Thomas,
Many thanks for your attention: indeed afer doing
mtxrun --generate
and then
context --make --all
I could use mkiv, and had to do
mktexlsr
and the
texexec --make --all
in order to use mkii.
I gues eventually these commands would be integrated somehow in first-setup.sh, but I didn't notice that that file was supposed to be updated also.
Best regards: OK
On 31 janv. 2011, at 18:45, Thomas Schmitz wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 18:33:57 +0100
> Otared Kavian <otared@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Hans,
>> I uploaded the new beta with the Minimals, but neither mkii nor mkiv work anymore…
>> I get
>> MTXrun | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'
>> and luatools --generate
>> gives the same result.
>
> This has been deprecated for quite a while now; you have to run
>
> mtxrun --generate
>
>> Has something changed in first-setup.sh for Mac OS X and other machines (I followed the thread about that file being changed for Windows by Mojca, but I don't know about other operating systems).
>
> I see the same thing on linux: you have to run mtxrun --generate and mktexlsr and texexec --make by hand now; after that, mkiv and mkii will run.
>
> I assume that's a result of our discussion last week, but not quite what Hans and Mojca are aiming at...
>
> Thomas
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* Re: beta
2011-01-31 16:49 beta Hans Hagen
2011-01-31 17:33 ` beta Otared Kavian
@ 2011-01-31 18:07 ` Otared Kavian
2011-01-31 21:36 ` beta Hans Hagen
2011-02-01 0:40 ` error updating beta WAS: beta Marco
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From: Otared Kavian @ 2011-01-31 18:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi again Hans,
Thanks to Thomas' attention I could make some testing with the latest mkiv beta (2011.01.31). It seems that roman numerals is broken in itemize, while it works fine in mkii.
Here is a minimal test:
%%% begin test.tex
\starttext
\startitemize[r]
\item Testing items and footnotes\footnote{This is a silly remark\dots}
\stopitemize
\stoptext
%%% end test.tex
and the error message I get:
! Undefined control sequence.
\romannumerals #1->\ctxcommands
{romannumerals(\number #1)}
l.7 }
\doconvertedstructurecounter ...!criterium ", } )}
\endgroup
<to be read again>
\fi
\doactualitemnumber ...rrentitemgroupcounter ]\fi
\dohandleitemreference \en...
\actualitemnumber ...fi \else \doactualitemnumber
\fi
...
l.5 \item T
esting items and footnotes\footnote{This is a silly remark\dots}
?
Process aborted
Best regards: OK
On 31 janv. 2011, at 17:49, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I uploaded a new beta.
>
> Hans
>
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* Re: beta
2011-01-31 17:45 ` beta Thomas Schmitz
2011-01-31 17:56 ` beta Otared Kavian
@ 2011-01-31 18:11 ` Hans van der Meer
2011-01-31 19:01 ` beta Peter Münster
2011-01-31 21:28 ` beta Hans Hagen
2011-01-31 19:04 ` beta Hans Hagen
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From: Hans van der Meer @ 2011-01-31 18:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Surprised this works somewhere. I uploaded the beta with the script I am using for sometime now:
#!/bin/bash
mkdir -p $TEXMINIMAL/tex
cd $TEXMINIMAL
ln -s $TEXPRIVATE tex/texmf-local
curl -o first-setup.sh http://minimals.contextgarden.net/setup/first-setup.sh
sh ./first-setup.sh >first-setup.log
cd tex
echo "luatools --selfupdate"
luatools --selfupdate
echo "mtxrun -selfupdate"
mtxrun -selfupdate
echo "mtxrun -selfupdate"
echo "installation context minimals done"
But now I get an error in running my TeXShop after installing:
MTXrun | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'
Confirmed that something is broken by regressing to my previous installation of ConTeXt ver: 2011.01.26 11:02 MKIV fmt: 2011.1.31 int: english/english
Changing the script to mtxrun --generate do not improve things here.
Thanks for changing things that way between one and the other. I am starting to get a bit choleric about all things that constantly seem broken with the next update. Sorry for the sour note but these are costing me hours to iron out, time I do not have at the moment.
Hans van der Meer
On 31 jan 2011, at 18:45, Thomas Schmitz wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 18:33:57 +0100
> Otared Kavian <otared@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Hans,
>> I uploaded the new beta with the Minimals, but neither mkii nor mkiv work anymore…
>> I get
>> MTXrun | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'
>> and luatools --generate
>> gives the same result.
>
> This has been deprecated for quite a while now; you have to run
>
> mtxrun --generate
>
>> Has something changed in first-setup.sh for Mac OS X and other machines (I followed the thread about that file being changed for Windows by Mojca, but I don't know about other operating systems).
>
> I see the same thing on linux: you have to run mtxrun --generate and mktexlsr and texexec --make by hand now; after that, mkiv and mkii will run.
>
> I assume that's a result of our discussion last week, but not quite what Hans and Mojca are aiming at...
>
> Thomas
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* Re: beta
2011-01-31 18:11 ` beta Hans van der Meer
@ 2011-01-31 19:01 ` Peter Münster
2011-01-31 21:28 ` beta Hans Hagen
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From: Peter Münster @ 2011-01-31 19:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hans van der Meer <H.vanderMeer@uva.nl> writes:
> Thanks for changing things that way between one and the other. I am starting
> to get a bit choleric about all things that constantly seem broken with the
> next update. Sorry for the sour note but these are costing me hours to iron
> out, time I do not have at the moment.
See also: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/76158 ;-)
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* Re: beta
2011-01-31 17:45 ` beta Thomas Schmitz
2011-01-31 17:56 ` beta Otared Kavian
2011-01-31 18:11 ` beta Hans van der Meer
@ 2011-01-31 19:04 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-01-31 19:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Thomas Schmitz
On 31-1-2011 6:45, Thomas Schmitz wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 18:33:57 +0100
> Otared Kavian <otared@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Hans,
>>
>> I uploaded the new beta with the Minimals, but neither mkii nor mkiv
>> work anymore…
>> I get
>> MTXrun | unknown script 'context.lua' or 'mtx-context.lua'
>> and luatools --generate
>> gives the same result.
>
> This has been deprecated for quite a while now; you have to run
>
> mtxrun --generate
>
>> Has something changed in first-setup.sh for Mac OS X and other
>> machines (I followed the thread about that file being changed for
>> Windows by Mojca, but I don't know about other operating systems).
>
> I see the same thing on linux: you have to run mtxrun --generate and
> mktexlsr and texexec --make by hand now; after that, mkiv and mkii will
> run.
>
> I assume that's a result of our discussion last week, but not quite what
> Hans and Mojca are aiming at...
hm, i tested it on a linux machine and it also works at taco's end
however, I see an error in mtxrun under the upgrade bin path so I'll
have a look at that (it's hard to test minimals without remote)
anyhow, making the databases and formats by hand works ok; the biggest
change is not yet visible anyway (for myself i want a relocatable tree
so i'm playing with that, normally that's not something users will deal
with)
Hans
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* Re: beta
2011-01-31 18:11 ` beta Hans van der Meer
2011-01-31 19:01 ` beta Peter Münster
@ 2011-01-31 21:28 ` Hans Hagen
2011-02-01 5:53 ` beta Vnpenguin
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-01-31 21:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 31-1-2011 7:11, Hans van der Meer wrote:
> Thanks for changing things that way between one and the other. I am starting to get a bit choleric about all things that constantly seem broken with the next update. Sorry for the sour note but these are costing me hours to iron out, time I do not have at the moment.
well, no one forces you to update betas
also, as long as we're in transition to mkiv you can expect an
occasional hickup, after all, i have only a few machines to test
maybe it gives you comfort to know that I spend more hours to iron out
problems -)
Hans
ps. recently i spent a week ironing out nfs4 problems just to find out
(by googling) that i'd best revert al machines back to nfs3 and i can
give more examples; believe it or not, it makes me feel less guilty
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* Re: beta
2011-01-31 18:07 ` beta Otared Kavian
@ 2011-01-31 21:36 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-01-31 21:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Otared Kavian
On 31-1-2011 7:07, Otared Kavian wrote:
> Hi again Hans,
>
> Thanks to Thomas' attention I could make some testing with the latest mkiv beta (2011.01.31). It seems that roman numerals is broken in itemize, while it works fine in mkii.
> Here is a minimal test:
> %%% begin test.tex
> \starttext
> \startitemize[r]
> \item Testing items and footnotes\footnote{This is a silly remark\dots}
> \stopitemize
> \stoptext
> %%% end test.tex
>
> and the error message I get:
> ! Undefined control sequence.
> \romannumerals #1->\ctxcommands
> {romannumerals(\number #1)}
ah, you got me ... should be singular
fyi: this macro is a shortcut for calling a function in the lua commands
namespace; eventually all calls at the tex end will call functions in
the commands namespace but it's a stepwise process to get this done (all
conversions were adapted so maybe more problems surface, but they're
just name issues)
Hans
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* Re: error updating beta WAS: beta
2011-01-31 16:49 beta Hans Hagen
2011-01-31 17:33 ` beta Otared Kavian
2011-01-31 18:07 ` beta Otared Kavian
@ 2011-02-01 0:40 ` Marco
2011-02-01 8:37 ` Hans Hagen
2011-02-02 4:11 ` beta views63
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From: Marco @ 2011-02-01 0:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
Hi,
I get the following error while updating minimals:
MTXrun | run: texexec --make --all --fast --xetex cont-nl cont-enTeXExec | using search method 'kpsewhich'
TeXExec | using existing database
TeXExec | using tex engine xetex
TeXExec | using tex format path /nonesuch/texmf/web2c/xetex
TeXExec | generating tex format cont-nl.mkii
This is XeTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.2-0.9995.2 (Web2C 7.5.6) (INITEX)
entering extended mode
! I can't find file `cont-nl.mkii'.
<*> *cont-nl.mkii
(Press Enter to retry, or Control-D to exit)
Please type another input file name:
Linux x86_64
Regards
Marco
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* Re: beta
2011-01-31 21:28 ` beta Hans Hagen
@ 2011-02-01 5:53 ` Vnpenguin
2011-02-01 8:43 ` beta Hans Hagen
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From: Vnpenguin @ 2011-02-01 5:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 22:28, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> On 31-1-2011 7:11, Hans van der Meer wrote:
>
>> Thanks for changing things that way between one and the other. I am
>> starting to get a bit choleric about all things that constantly seem broken
>> with the next update. Sorry for the sour note but these are costing me hours
>> to iron out, time I do not have at the moment.
>
> well, no one forces you to update betas
>
> also, as long as we're in transition to mkiv you can expect an occasional
> hickup, after all, i have only a few machines to test
It's better to have someone could give you a hand.
In the long term, something like "Release Team" would be a must for
ConTeXt development. With this team, we can do some "Unit testing" for
each release in order to minimize problem.
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* Re: error updating beta WAS: beta
2011-02-01 0:40 ` error updating beta WAS: beta Marco
@ 2011-02-01 8:37 ` Hans Hagen
2011-02-01 10:36 ` Vedran Miletić
2011-02-01 15:34 ` Marco
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-02-01 8:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Marco
On 1-2-2011 1:40, Marco wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I get the following error while updating minimals:
>
> MTXrun | run: texexec --make --all --fast --xetex cont-nl cont-enTeXExec | using search method 'kpsewhich'
> TeXExec | using existing database
> TeXExec | using tex engine xetex
> TeXExec | using tex format path /nonesuch/texmf/web2c/xetex
> TeXExec | generating tex format cont-nl.mkii
> This is XeTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.2-0.9995.2 (Web2C 7.5.6) (INITEX)
> entering extended mode
> ! I can't find file `cont-nl.mkii'.
> <*> *cont-nl.mkii
>
> (Press Enter to retry, or Control-D to exit)
> Please type another input file name:
can you run mktexlsr manually?
Hans
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* Re: beta
2011-02-01 5:53 ` beta Vnpenguin
@ 2011-02-01 8:43 ` Hans Hagen
2011-02-01 8:45 ` beta luigi scarso
2011-02-01 10:40 ` beta Alan BRASLAU
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-02-01 8:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 1-2-2011 6:53, Vnpenguin wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 22:28, Hans Hagen<pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
>> On 31-1-2011 7:11, Hans van der Meer wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for changing things that way between one and the other. I am
>>> starting to get a bit choleric about all things that constantly seem broken
>>> with the next update. Sorry for the sour note but these are costing me hours
>>> to iron out, time I do not have at the moment.
>>
>> well, no one forces you to update betas
>>
>> also, as long as we're in transition to mkiv you can expect an occasional
>> hickup, after all, i have only a few machines to test
>
> It's better to have someone could give you a hand.
> In the long term, something like "Release Team" would be a must for
> ConTeXt development. With this team, we can do some "Unit testing" for
> each release in order to minimize problem.
to some extend this is what the beta is for ... because mkiv is a moving
target it sort of replaces the current, but if i can imagine that users
wait a few days with updating till there are no problems reported
concerning testing ... there is a slowly growing test suite, and i guess
that at some point Luigi will run it alongside his module documentation
runs .. you can offer him help with that (sanjoy also has made some test
setup)
in this particular case (adaption of mtxrun) testing is somewhat
problematic as we need a test-minimal alongside the regular one and that
might happen when mojca has set up the new machine
Hans
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* Re: beta
2011-02-01 8:43 ` beta Hans Hagen
@ 2011-02-01 8:45 ` luigi scarso
2011-02-01 10:40 ` beta Alan BRASLAU
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From: luigi scarso @ 2011-02-01 8:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> On 1-2-2011 6:53, Vnpenguin wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 22:28, Hans Hagen<pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 31-1-2011 7:11, Hans van der Meer wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for changing things that way between one and the other. I am
>>>> starting to get a bit choleric about all things that constantly seem
>>>> broken
>>>> with the next update. Sorry for the sour note but these are costing me
>>>> hours
>>>> to iron out, time I do not have at the moment.
>>>
>>> well, no one forces you to update betas
>>>
>>> also, as long as we're in transition to mkiv you can expect an occasional
>>> hickup, after all, i have only a few machines to test
>>
>> It's better to have someone could give you a hand.
>> In the long term, something like "Release Team" would be a must for
>> ConTeXt development. With this team, we can do some "Unit testing" for
>> each release in order to minimize problem.
>
> to some extend this is what the beta is for ... because mkiv is a moving
> target it sort of replaces the current, but if i can imagine that users wait
> a few days with updating till there are no problems reported
>
> concerning testing ... there is a slowly growing test suite, and i guess
> that at some point Luigi will run it alongside his module documentation runs
> .. you can offer him help with that (sanjoy also has made some test setup)
...mea culpa....
I'm busy with bachotex material --- and a wrong Ubuntu LTS upgrade...
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* Re: error updating beta WAS: beta
2011-02-01 8:37 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2011-02-01 10:36 ` Vedran Miletić
2011-02-01 11:35 ` Hans Hagen
2011-02-01 15:34 ` Marco
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From: Vedran Miletić @ 2011-02-01 10:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Marco
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2011/2/1 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>
> On 1-2-2011 1:40, Marco wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I get the following error while updating minimals:
>>
>> MTXrun | run: texexec --make --all --fast --xetex cont-nl cont-enTeXExec |
>> using search method 'kpsewhich'
>> TeXExec | using existing database
>> TeXExec | using tex engine xetex
>> TeXExec | using tex format path /nonesuch/texmf/web2c/xetex
>> TeXExec | generating tex format cont-nl.mkii
>> This is XeTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.2-0.9995.2 (Web2C 7.5.6) (INITEX)
>> entering extended mode
>> ! I can't find file `cont-nl.mkii'.
>> <*> *cont-nl.mkii
>>
>> (Press Enter to retry, or Control-D to exit)
>> Please type another input file name:
>>
>
> can you run mktexlsr manually?
>
> Hans
>
Same here.
Running mktexlsr manually works, but it doesn't help next ./first-setup run.
Regards,
Vedran Miletić
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2011-02-01 8:43 ` beta Hans Hagen
2011-02-01 8:45 ` beta luigi scarso
@ 2011-02-01 10:40 ` Alan BRASLAU
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From: Alan BRASLAU @ 2011-02-01 10:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
My update proceedure systematically maintains a previous,
presumably working, copy of the minimals. For this, I run
a script:
#!/bin/sh
cd /usr/local/context
cd beta
echo "*** move current to previous ***"
rsync -av --delete --progress . ../previous
echo "*** update beta ***"
rsync -ptv --progress rsync://contextgarden.net/minimals/setup/first-setup.sh .
./first-setup.sh --extras=all | tee first-setup.log
This way I limit problems while still working with the latest, greatest
beta version of ConTeXt. When things go wrong with the update,
I simply move "beta" to "new" (or something else) and "previous" to "beta",
my PATH being set to use "beta".
Perhaps others can suggest a better working proceedure.
Of course, when pressed for time, I postpone updating to Hans' latest
so as not to be distracted from the work at hand.
Alan
On Tuesday 01 February 2011 09:43:00 Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 1-2-2011 6:53, Vnpenguin wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 22:28, Hans Hagen<pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> >> On 31-1-2011 7:11, Hans van der Meer wrote:
> >>> Thanks for changing things that way between one and the other. I am
> >>> starting to get a bit choleric about all things that constantly seem
> >>> broken with the next update. Sorry for the sour note but these are
> >>> costing me hours to iron out, time I do not have at the moment.
> >>
> >> well, no one forces you to update betas
> >>
> >> also, as long as we're in transition to mkiv you can expect an
> >> occasional hickup, after all, i have only a few machines to test
> >
> > It's better to have someone could give you a hand.
> > In the long term, something like "Release Team" would be a must for
> > ConTeXt development. With this team, we can do some "Unit testing" for
> > each release in order to minimize problem.
>
> to some extend this is what the beta is for ... because mkiv is a moving
> target it sort of replaces the current, but if i can imagine that users
> wait a few days with updating till there are no problems reported
>
> concerning testing ... there is a slowly growing test suite, and i guess
> that at some point Luigi will run it alongside his module documentation
> runs .. you can offer him help with that (sanjoy also has made some test
> setup)
>
> in this particular case (adaption of mtxrun) testing is somewhat
> problematic as we need a test-minimal alongside the regular one and that
> might happen when mojca has set up the new machine
>
> Hans
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* Re: error updating beta WAS: beta
2011-02-01 10:36 ` Vedran Miletić
@ 2011-02-01 11:35 ` Hans Hagen
2011-02-01 12:51 ` luigi scarso
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-02-01 11:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Marco
On 1-2-2011 11:36, Vedran Miletić wrote:
> Same here.
>
> Running mktexlsr manually works, but it doesn't help next ./first-setup run..
i'll have a look at it (i only tested a luatex only tree sofar)
Hans
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* Re: beta
2011-01-31 17:45 ` beta Thomas Schmitz
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
2011-01-31 19:04 ` beta Hans Hagen
@ 2011-02-01 12:42 ` Jörg Hagmann
2011-02-01 12:47 ` beta luigi scarso
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From: Jörg Hagmann @ 2011-02-01 12:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 1/31/11 6:45 PM, Thomas Schmitz wrote:
>> and luatools --generate
>> gives the same result.
>
>
> This has been deprecated for quite a while now; you have to run
>
> mtxrun --generate
Does that mean that the instructions
(http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals#Remaking_formats) have
to be updated? There, both "mtxrun --generate" and "luatools --generate"
are listed for making the mkiv format.
In any case, I haven't been able to install (update) the minimals in the
last 3 months (on both OS X and ubuntu). MkII works, but context
--version gives
"MTXrun | main context file: unknown, 'context.mkiv' not found"
And the log of running a test file contains:
-------------
MTXrun | warning: no format found, forcing remake (commandline driven)
...
MTXrun | resolvers: using given filetype 'tex'
MTXrun | resolvers: resolver: method=concatinators, how=tag, tag=file
MTXrun | resolvers: resolver: method=concatinators, how=tag, tag=file
MTXrun | resolvers: using given filetype 'tex'
MTXrun | no tex source file with name: cont-en (mkiv or tex)
MTXrun | error, no format found with name: cont-en, aborting
MTXrun | total runtime: 0.347
-----------------
From the installation log:
------------------
MTXrun | forcing cache reload
MTXrun | resolvers: unknown configuration file
'/Users/bonasia/texmf-local/texmfcnf.lua'
MTXrun | resolvers: unknown configuration file
'/Users/bonasia/texmf-local/web2c/texmfcnf.lua'
MTXrun | resolvers: unknown configuration file
'/Users/bonasia/texmf/texmfcnf.lua'
MTXrun | resolvers: unknown configuration file
'/Users/bonasia/texmf/web2c/texmfcnf.lua'
MTXrun | resolvers: unknown configuration file '/Users/bonasia/texmfcnf.lua'
MTXrun | resolvers
MTXrun | resolvers: warning: no lua configuration files found
MTXrun | resolvers
MTXrun | resolvers
MTXrun | the resolver databases are not present or outdated
MTXrun | state: loaded
MTXrun | update: start
-------------------
Thanks and regards, Jörg
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* Re: beta
2011-02-01 12:42 ` beta Jörg Hagmann
@ 2011-02-01 12:47 ` luigi scarso
2011-02-01 13:22 ` beta Jörg Hagmann
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From: luigi scarso @ 2011-02-01 12:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Jörg Hagmann <joerg.hagmann@unibas.ch> wrote:
> On 1/31/11 6:45 PM, Thomas Schmitz wrote:
>>>
>>> and luatools --generate
>>> gives the same result.
>>
>>
>> This has been deprecated for quite a while now; you have to run
>>
>> mtxrun --generate
>
> Does that mean that the instructions
> (http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals#Remaking_formats) have to be
> updated? There, both "mtxrun --generate" and "luatools --generate" are
> listed for making the mkiv format.
>
> In any case, I haven't been able to install (update) the minimals in the
> last 3 months (on both OS X and ubuntu).
hm so much time for me.
At least on January update was almost retgular for me (mkiv)
> "MTXrun | main context file: unknown, 'context.mkiv' not found"
it can be a problem of cache corrupted; try to erase it and rebuild
with mtxrun --generate
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* Re: error updating beta WAS: beta
2011-02-01 11:35 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2011-02-01 12:51 ` luigi scarso
2011-02-01 13:02 ` luigi scarso
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From: luigi scarso @ 2011-02-01 12:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> On 1-2-2011 11:36, Vedran Miletić wrote:
>
>> Same here.
>>
>> Running mktexlsr manually works, but it doesn't help next ./first-setup
>> run..
>
> i'll have a look at it (i only tested a luatex only tree sofar)
seem related only to pdftex and xetex.
luatex seems ok.
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2011-02-01 12:51 ` luigi scarso
@ 2011-02-01 13:02 ` luigi scarso
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From: luigi scarso @ 2011-02-01 13:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 1:51 PM, luigi scarso <luigi.scarso@gmail.com> wrote:
>> i'll have a look at it (i only tested a luatex only tree sofar)
> seem related only to pdftex and xetex.
> luatex seems ok.
> --
> luigi
>
after
$>mktexlsr
$>texexec --make
builds all the pdftex formats
$>texexec --make --engine=xetex
builds all the xetex formats
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2011-02-01 12:47 ` beta luigi scarso
@ 2011-02-01 13:22 ` Jörg Hagmann
2011-02-01 13:26 ` beta luigi scarso
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From: Jörg Hagmann @ 2011-02-01 13:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 2/1/11 1:47 PM, luigi scarso wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Jörg Hagmann<joerg.hagmann@unibas.ch> wrote:
>> On 1/31/11 6:45 PM, Thomas Schmitz wrote:
>>>> and luatools --generate
>>>> gives the same result.
>>>
>>> This has been deprecated for quite a while now; you have to run
>>>
>>> mtxrun --generate
>> Does that mean that the instructions
>> (http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals#Remaking_formats) have to be
>> updated? There, both "mtxrun --generate" and "luatools --generate" are
>> listed for making the mkiv format.
>>
>> In any case, I haven't been able to install (update) the minimals in the
>> last 3 months (on both OS X and ubuntu).
> hm so much time for me.
> At least on January update was almost retgular for me (mkiv)
>
>> "MTXrun | main context file: unknown, 'context.mkiv' not found"
> it can be a problem of cache corrupted; try to erase it and rebuild
> with mtxrun --generate
Didn't help (provided I deleted the right thing).
Thanks and regards, Jörg
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2011-02-01 13:22 ` beta Jörg Hagmann
@ 2011-02-01 13:26 ` luigi scarso
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On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Jörg Hagmann <joerg.hagmann@unibas.ch> wrote:
> Didn't help (provided I deleted the right thing).
Did you
$>. setuptex
?
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2011-02-01 13:26 ` beta luigi scarso
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From: Jörg Hagmann @ 2011-02-01 13:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 2/1/11 2:26 PM, luigi scarso wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Jörg Hagmann<joerg.hagmann@unibas.ch> wrote:
>> Didn't help (provided I deleted the right thing).
> Did you
> $>. setuptex
Sure. mkII is working.
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2011-02-01 13:36 ` beta Jörg Hagmann
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On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Jörg Hagmann <joerg.hagmann@unibas.ch> wrote:
>> Did you
>> $>. setuptex
>
> Sure. mkII is working.
and
$> kpsewhich context.mkiv
?
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2011-02-01 13:42 ` beta luigi scarso
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From: Jörg Hagmann @ 2011-02-01 13:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 2/1/11 2:42 PM, luigi scarso wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Jörg Hagmann<joerg.hagmann@unibas.ch> wrote:
>>> Did you
>>> $>. setuptex
>> Sure. mkII is working.
> and
> $> kpsewhich context.mkiv
> ?
/Users/bonasia/.context-new/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.mkiv
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2011-02-01 13:46 ` beta Jörg Hagmann
@ 2011-02-01 13:54 ` luigi scarso
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From: luigi scarso @ 2011-02-01 13:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Jörg Hagmann <joerg.hagmann@unibas.ch> wrote:
>
>
> On 2/1/11 2:42 PM, luigi scarso wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Jörg Hagmann<joerg.hagmann@unibas.ch>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Did you
>>>> $>. setuptex
>>>
>>> Sure. mkII is working.
>>
>> and
>> $> kpsewhich context.mkiv
>> ?
>
> /Users/bonasia/.context-new/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.mkiv
^^^^^^^^^^^
this dot looks suspect... can you try without it, ie
/Users/bonasia/context-new...
and then
$>. setuptex
$>mtxrun --generate
?
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2011-02-01 13:54 ` beta luigi scarso
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From: Jörg Hagmann @ 2011-02-01 14:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 2/1/11 2:54 PM, luigi scarso wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Jörg Hagmann<joerg.hagmann@unibas.ch> wrote:
>>
>> On 2/1/11 2:42 PM, luigi scarso wrote:
>>> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Jörg Hagmann<joerg.hagmann@unibas.ch>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> Did you
>>>>> $>. setuptex
>>>> Sure. mkII is working.
>>> and
>>> $> kpsewhich context.mkiv
>>> ?
>> /Users/bonasia/.context-new/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/context.mkiv
> ^^^^^^^^^^^
> this dot looks suspect... can you try without it, ie
> /Users/bonasia/context-new...
> and then
> $>. setuptex
> $>mtxrun --generate
> ?
Ok - Thank you! I keep (kept) my contexts in hidden dirs (my current one
from 3 months ago is in ".context" and it works, but I don't remember
whether I changed the directory to "hidden" after I installed the
minimals or whether I installed them into ".context").
Conclusion: Installing the actual minimals in a hidden file doesn't
work, in a "visible" one it does.
Thanks a lot for the help, Jörg
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* Re: beta
2011-02-01 14:38 ` beta Jörg Hagmann
@ 2011-02-01 14:46 ` luigi scarso
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From: luigi scarso @ 2011-02-01 14:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Jörg Hagmann <joerg.hagmann@unibas.ch> wrote:
> Conclusion: Installing the actual minimals in a hidden file doesn't work, in
> a "visible" one it does.
>
Not sure if it's a bug or feature.
If I understand correctly, mkii works ok in "hidden" folders, but mkiv no.
I suspect then a bug in names resolver which in this situation it's ok .
(perhaps you can try with
/Users/bonasia/a.context-new
)
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* Re: beta
2011-02-01 14:46 ` beta luigi scarso
@ 2011-02-01 15:00 ` Jörg Hagmann
2011-02-01 15:13 ` beta Vedran Miletić
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From: Jörg Hagmann @ 2011-02-01 15:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 2/1/11 3:46 PM, luigi scarso wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Jörg Hagmann<joerg.hagmann@unibas.ch> wrote:
>> Conclusion: Installing the actual minimals in a hidden file doesn't work, in
>> a "visible" one it does.
>>
> Not sure if it's a bug or feature.
> If I understand correctly, mkii works ok in "hidden" folders, but mkiv no.
> I suspect then a bug in names resolver which in this situation it's ok .
> (perhaps you can try with
> /Users/bonasia/a.context-new
> )
Doesn't work either. Well - my context directory doesn't have to be
hidden - why hide a pretty thing?
Regards, Jörg
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* Re: beta
2011-02-01 15:00 ` beta Jörg Hagmann
@ 2011-02-01 15:13 ` Vedran Miletić
2011-02-01 15:35 ` beta Alan BRASLAU
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From: Vedran Miletić @ 2011-02-01 15:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
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2011/2/1 Jörg Hagmann <joerg.hagmann@unibas.ch>
>
>
> On 2/1/11 3:46 PM, luigi scarso wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Jörg Hagmann<joerg.hagmann@unibas.ch>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Conclusion: Installing the actual minimals in a hidden file doesn't work,
>>> in
>>> a "visible" one it does.
>>>
>>> Not sure if it's a bug or feature.
>> If I understand correctly, mkii works ok in "hidden" folders, but mkiv no.
>> I suspect then a bug in names resolver which in this situation it's ok .
>> (perhaps you can try with
>> /Users/bonasia/a.context-new
>> )
>>
> Doesn't work either. Well - my context directory doesn't have to be hidden
> - why hide a pretty thing?
>
> Regards, Jörg
Yes, there is a bug when using dots, someone recently triggered it when
using versioned names (context-2011.01.18 or something). Not sure if it can
be fixed.
Regards,
Vedran Miletić
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* Re: error updating beta WAS: beta
2011-02-01 8:37 ` Hans Hagen
2011-02-01 10:36 ` Vedran Miletić
@ 2011-02-01 15:34 ` Marco
2011-02-01 15:41 ` luigi scarso
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From: Marco @ 2011-02-01 15:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
On 2011-02-01 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> On 1-2-2011 1:40, Marco wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I get the following error while updating minimals:
> >
> > MTXrun | run: texexec --make --all --fast --xetex cont-nl cont-enTeXExec
> > | using search method 'kpsewhich' TeXExec | using existing database
> > TeXExec | using tex engine xetex
> > TeXExec | using tex format path /nonesuch/texmf/web2c/xetex
> > TeXExec | generating tex format cont-nl.mkii
> > This is XeTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.2-0.9995.2 (Web2C 7.5.6) (INITEX)
> > entering extended mode
> > ! I can't find file `cont-nl.mkii'.
> > <*> *cont-nl.mkii
> >
> > (Press Enter to retry, or Control-D to exit)
> > Please type another input file name:
>
> can you run mktexlsr manually?
Yes. This fixes mkii. But as Vedran and Luigi already pointed out
first-setup.sh is broken. mkiv works ok.
BTW: Is it possible to only build mkiv and the english interface? Maybe by
passing some options to first-setup.sh? I never need other interfaces and
hardly ever mkii.
Marco
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* Re: beta
2011-02-01 15:13 ` beta Vedran Miletić
@ 2011-02-01 15:35 ` Alan BRASLAU
2011-02-01 16:04 ` beta Marco
2011-02-01 16:16 ` beta Peter Münster
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From: Alan BRASLAU @ 2011-02-01 15:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
On Tuesday 01 February 2011 16:13:25 Vedran Miletić wrote:
>
> Yes, there is a bug when using dots, someone recently triggered it when
> using versioned names (context-2011.01.18 or something). Not sure if it can
> be fixed.
>
A good guide should be the use of POSIX "Fully portable filenames"
Lewine, Donald, POSIX Programmer's Guide: Writing Portable UNIX Programs,
1991, O'Reilly & Associates, Inc., Sebastopol, CA, pp. 63-64.
Of course, some perfectly acceptable filenames
(even for a NTFS filesystem, according to MicroSoft's own standard)
wreak havoc for Windows and some Windows applications, as well as for MacOS.
See, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filename
Microsoft Windows: Windows kernel forbids the use of characters in range 1-31
(i.e., 0x01-0x1F) and characters " * : < > ? \ / |. Although NTFS allows each
path component (directory or filename) to be 255 characters long and paths up
to about 32767 characters long, the Windows kernel only supports paths up to
259 characters long if no UNC is used for addressing. Additionally, Windows
forbids the use of the MS-DOS device names AUX, CLOCK$, COM1, COM2, COM3,
COM4, COM5, COM6, COM7, COM8, COM9, CON, LPT1, LPT2, LPT3, LPT4, LPT5, LPT6,
LPT7, LPT8, LPT9, NUL and PRN, as well as these names with any extension (for
example, AUX.txt), except when using Long UNC paths (ex. \\.\C:\nul.txt or \\?
\D:\aux\con). (In fact, CLOCK$ may be used if an extension is provided.) These
restrictions only apply to Windows - Linux, for example, allows use of " * : <
> ? \ | even in NTFS.
Alan
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* Re: error updating beta WAS: beta
2011-02-01 15:34 ` Marco
@ 2011-02-01 15:41 ` luigi scarso
2011-02-01 15:47 ` Hans Hagen
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From: luigi scarso @ 2011-02-01 15:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Marco <netuse@lavabit.com> wrote:
> BTW: Is it possible to only build mkiv and the english interface? Maybe by
> passing some options to first-setup.sh? I never need other interfaces and
> hardly ever mkii.
>
> Marco
In first-septup.sh , near the bottom
mtxrun --verbose --script ./bin/mtx-update.lua --update --make --force
--engine=all --context=beta --platform=$platform --texroot=$PWD/tex $@
I believe that --engine=luatex is the switch you want
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* Re: beta
2011-02-01 14:38 ` beta Jörg Hagmann
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-02-01 15:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 1-2-2011 3:38, Jörg Hagmann wrote:
> Conclusion: Installing the actual minimals in a hidden file doesn't
> work, in a "visible" one it does.
concerning the mkii problem .. i know where it originates and am playing
a bit with it ... so beta syncing can be a bit erratic for a while (i
need to make sure that mkiv can use symbolic roots while mkii gets real
ones)
Hans
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* Re: error updating beta WAS: beta
2011-02-01 15:41 ` luigi scarso
@ 2011-02-01 15:47 ` Hans Hagen
2011-02-01 16:07 ` Marco
2011-02-01 20:54 ` Andreas Harder
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-02-01 15:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 1-2-2011 4:41, luigi scarso wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Marco<netuse@lavabit.com> wrote:
>> BTW: Is it possible to only build mkiv and the english interface? Maybe by
>> passing some options to first-setup.sh? I never need other interfaces and
>> hardly ever mkii.
>>
>> Marco
> In first-septup.sh , near the bottom
> mtxrun --verbose --script ./bin/mtx-update.lua --update --make --force
> --engine=all --context=beta --platform=$platform --texroot=$PWD/tex $@
>
> I believe that --engine=luatex is the switch you want
indeed, but one needs a fresh minimal because the current state is
stored and kept
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* Re: beta
2011-02-01 15:13 ` beta Vedran Miletić
2011-02-01 15:35 ` beta Alan BRASLAU
@ 2011-02-01 16:04 ` Marco
2011-02-01 16:10 ` beta luigi scarso
2011-02-01 16:16 ` beta Peter Münster
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From: Marco @ 2011-02-01 16:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
On 2011-02-01 Vedran Miletić <rivanvx@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Not sure if it's a bug or feature.
> >> If I understand correctly, mkii works ok in "hidden" folders, but mkiv
> >> no. I suspect then a bug in names resolver which in this situation it's
> >> ok . (perhaps you can try with
> >> /Users/bonasia/a.context-new
> >> )
> >>
> > Doesn't work either. Well - my context directory doesn't have to be hidden
> > - why hide a pretty thing?
> >
> > Regards, Jörg
>
>
> Yes, there is a bug when using dots, someone recently triggered it when
> using versioned names (context-2011.01.18 or something). Not sure if it can
> be fixed.
I also ran across a bug considering the case of external graphics. The case is
not taken into account. And luatex hangs, if a graphic is not found. Example:
\starttext
\externalfigure [CoW] % A file CoW does not exist, only cow.pdf
% and cow.pdf is included, should output gray box
\externalfigure [GrApHiC] % Does not exist and causes mkiv to hang
% Should output gray box
\stoptext
Regards
Marco
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* Re: error updating beta WAS: beta
2011-02-01 15:47 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2011-02-01 16:07 ` Marco
2011-02-01 20:54 ` Andreas Harder
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From: Marco @ 2011-02-01 16:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
On 2011-02-01 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> > In first-septup.sh , near the bottom
> > mtxrun --verbose --script ./bin/mtx-update.lua --update --make --force
> > --engine=all --context=beta --platform=$platform --texroot=$PWD/tex $@
> >
> > I believe that --engine=luatex is the switch you want
>
> indeed, but one needs a fresh minimal because the current state is
> stored and kept
Thanks
Marco
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* Re: beta
2011-02-01 16:04 ` beta Marco
@ 2011-02-01 16:10 ` luigi scarso
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From: luigi scarso @ 2011-02-01 16:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Marco <netuse@lavabit.com> wrote:
> On 2011-02-01 Vedran Miletić <rivanvx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> >>> Not sure if it's a bug or feature.
>> >> If I understand correctly, mkii works ok in "hidden" folders, but mkiv
>> >> no. I suspect then a bug in names resolver which in this situation it's
>> >> ok . (perhaps you can try with
>> >> /Users/bonasia/a.context-new
>> >> )
>> >>
>> > Doesn't work either. Well - my context directory doesn't have to be hidden
>> > - why hide a pretty thing?
>> >
>> > Regards, Jörg
>>
>>
>> Yes, there is a bug when using dots, someone recently triggered it when
>> using versioned names (context-2011.01.18 or something). Not sure if it can
>> be fixed.
>
> I also ran across a bug considering the case of external graphics. The case is
> not taken into account. And luatex hangs, if a graphic is not found. Example:
>
> \starttext
> \externalfigure [CoW] % A file CoW does not exist, only cow.pdf
> % and cow.pdf is included, should output gray box
>
> \externalfigure [GrApHiC] % Does not exist and causes mkiv to hang
> % Should output gray box
> \stoptext
>
>
> Regards
> Marco
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* Re: beta
2011-02-01 15:13 ` beta Vedran Miletić
2011-02-01 15:35 ` beta Alan BRASLAU
2011-02-01 16:04 ` beta Marco
@ 2011-02-01 16:16 ` Peter Münster
2011-02-01 16:51 ` beta Marco
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From: Peter Münster @ 2011-02-01 16:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Vedran Miletić <rivanvx@gmail.com> writes:
> Yes, there is a bug when using dots,
Or a feature...?! ;)
See also:
- http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2010/052339.html
("and such" can mean a dot)
- http://pmrb.free.fr/contextref.pdf section 1.7
;-)
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* Re: beta
2011-02-01 16:16 ` beta Peter Münster
@ 2011-02-01 16:51 ` Marco
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From: Marco @ 2011-02-01 16:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
On 2011-02-01 pmlists@free.fr (Peter Münster) wrote:
> Vedran Miletić <rivanvx@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Yes, there is a bug when using dots,
>
> Or a feature...?! ;)
>
> See also:
> - http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2010/052339.html
> ("and such" can mean a dot)
> - http://pmrb.free.fr/contextref.pdf section 1.7
> ;-)
I don't want to start an argue, sice this bug/feature doesn't affect my work.
But just my 2 cents:
1) The operating system / file system basically decides which names are
permitted. And in times of luatex and unicode it's a pity that file names
with international characters aren't supported. All other programs can cope
with that.
2) I often use automatically generated graphics like
graph.1.pdf
graph.2.pdf
graph.3.pdf ...
According to the documentation and Hans these file names aren't permitted,
since dots and numbers aren't allowed. However when I include the complete
names with extention it works.
Regards
Marco
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* Re: error updating beta WAS: beta
2011-02-01 15:47 ` Hans Hagen
2011-02-01 16:07 ` Marco
@ 2011-02-01 20:54 ` Andreas Harder
2011-02-01 21:30 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Andreas Harder @ 2011-02-01 20:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 01.02.2011 um 16:47 schrieb Hans Hagen:
> On 1-2-2011 4:41, luigi scarso wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Marco<netuse@lavabit.com> wrote:
>>> BTW: Is it possible to only build mkiv and the english interface? Maybe by
>>> passing some options to first-setup.sh? I never need other interfaces and
>>> hardly ever mkii.
>>>
>>> Marco
>> In first-septup.sh , near the bottom
>> mtxrun --verbose --script ./bin/mtx-update.lua --update --make --force
>> --engine=all --context=beta --platform=$platform --texroot=$PWD/tex $@
>>
>> I believe that --engine=luatex is the switch you want
>
> indeed, but one needs a fresh minimal because the current state is stored and kept
But one need the other formats to use TeX Gyre fonts with math?
If I try the –engine=luatex switch this
\setupbodyfont[palatino]
\starttext
$a+b$
\stoptext
returns:
!LuaTeX error: cannot open Type 1 font file for reading (qplri.pfb)
Greeting
Andreas
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* Re: error updating beta WAS: beta
2011-02-01 20:54 ` Andreas Harder
@ 2011-02-01 21:30 ` Hans Hagen
2011-02-02 10:18 ` Hans van der Meer
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-02-01 21:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 1-2-2011 9:54, Andreas Harder wrote:
> But one need the other formats to use TeX Gyre fonts with math?
no, but it can be that some font is missing, in which case you should
identify it and ask Mojca to add it to the luatex subset
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* Re: beta
2011-01-31 16:49 beta Hans Hagen
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2011-02-01 0:40 ` error updating beta WAS: beta Marco
@ 2011-02-02 4:11 ` views63
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Hi Hans,
my new ConTeXt misses cldf-int.mkiv
loading : ConTeXt Multilingual Macros / Helpers
<+ /opt/context/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/mult-aux.lua>)
! I can't find file `cldf-int.mkiv'.
<to be read again>
\relax
l.108 \loadmarkfile{cldf-int}
% interface
Please type another input file name:
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Huang Ze
2011/2/1 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>
> Hi,
>
> I uploaded a new beta.
>
> Hans
>
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* Re: error updating beta WAS: beta
2011-02-01 21:30 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans van der Meer @ 2011-02-02 10:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Just uploaded latest beta and on "context --make en" got the error:
! I can't find file `catc-ini.mkiv'.
<to be read again>
\relax
l.76 \loadmarkfile{catc-ini}
Are there still missing files?
Hans van der Meer
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* Re: error updating beta WAS: beta
2011-02-02 10:18 ` Hans van der Meer
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2011-02-02 10:34 ` Jörg Hagmann
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From: luigi scarso @ 2011-02-02 10:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Hans van der Meer <H.vanderMeer@uva.nl> wrote:
> Just uploaded latest beta and on "context --make en" got the error:
>
> ! I can't find file `catc-ini.mkiv'.
> <to be read again>
> \relax
> l.76 \loadmarkfile{catc-ini}
>
> Are there still missing files?
>
> Hans van der Meer
not here from minimals
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* Re: error updating beta WAS: beta
2011-02-02 10:25 ` luigi scarso
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From: Jörg Hagmann @ 2011-02-02 10:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Confirmed - I got the same error yesterday evening on my linux system
(after a successful installation in the afternoon on OS X).
Jörg
On 2/2/11 11:25 AM, luigi scarso wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Hans van der Meer<H.vanderMeer@uva.nl> wrote:
>> Just uploaded latest beta and on "context --make en" got the error:
>>
>> ! I can't find file `catc-ini.mkiv'.
>> <to be read again>
>> \relax
>> l.76 \loadmarkfile{catc-ini}
>>
>> Are there still missing files?
>>
>> Hans van der Meer
> not here from minimals
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2011-02-02 10:34 ` Jörg Hagmann
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Could it be because it is named catc-ini.lua instead of catc-ini.mkiv? Or has it to be loaded as an explicit lua-file?
Hans van der Meer
On 2 feb 2011, at 11:34, Jörg Hagmann wrote:
> Confirmed - I got the same error yesterday evening on my linux system (after a successful installation in the afternoon on OS X).
> Jörg
>
> On 2/2/11 11:25 AM, luigi scarso wrote:
>> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Hans van der Meer<H.vanderMeer@uva.nl> wrote:
>>> Just uploaded latest beta and on "context --make en" got the error:
>>>
>>> ! I can't find file `catc-ini.mkiv'.
>>> <to be read again>
>>> \relax
>>> l.76 \loadmarkfile{catc-ini}
>>>
>>> Are there still missing files?
>>>
>>> Hans van der Meer
>> not here from minimals
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* Re: error updating beta WAS: beta
2011-02-02 10:43 ` Hans van der Meer
@ 2011-02-02 10:45 ` luigi scarso
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From: luigi scarso @ 2011-02-02 10:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Hans van der Meer <H.vanderMeer@uva.nl> wrote:
> Could it be because it is named catc-ini.lua instead of catc-ini.mkiv? Or has it to be loaded as an explicit lua-file?
no. What about
$> mktexlsr
$> kpsewhich catc-ini.mkiv
?
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* Re: error updating beta WAS: beta
2011-02-02 10:45 ` luigi scarso
@ 2011-02-02 10:57 ` Hans van der Meer
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Strange, doing (running MacOSX 10.6.6, beta is the directory in which context is installed):
102 beta: mktexlsr
mktexlsr: Updating /Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/ls-R...
mktexlsr: Done.
103 beta: kpsewhich catc-ini.mkiv
/Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/catc-ini.mkiv
104 beta:
File is there. Checked again that "context --make en" runs into the same error.
Hans van der Meer
On 2 feb 2011, at 11:45, luigi scarso wrote:
> kpsewhich catc-ini.mkiv
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2011-02-02 10:57 ` Hans van der Meer
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From: luigi scarso @ 2011-02-02 11:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Hans van der Meer <H.vanderMeer@uva.nl> wrote:
> Strange, doing (running MacOSX 10.6.6, beta is the directory in which context is installed):
>
> 102 beta: mktexlsr
> mktexlsr: Updating /Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/ls-R...
> mktexlsr: Done.
> 103 beta: kpsewhich catc-ini.mkiv
> /Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/catc-ini.mkiv
> 104 beta:
>
> File is there. Checked again that "context --make en" runs into the same error.
delete the cache and
$> mtxrun --generate
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* Re: error updating beta WAS: beta
2011-02-02 11:05 ` luigi scarso
@ 2011-02-02 11:24 ` Hans van der Meer
2011-02-02 17:21 ` Hans van der Meer
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From: Hans van der Meer @ 2011-02-02 11:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Did remove texmf-cache and ran mtxrun --generate. Still get on context --make en the error:
! I can't find file `catc-ini.mkiv'.
<to be read again>
\relax
l.76 \loadmarkfile{catc-ini}
Please type another input file name:
(will be away 1 or 2 hours, sorry not able to answer immediately)
Hans van der Meer
On 2 feb 2011, at 12:05, luigi scarso wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Hans van der Meer <H.vanderMeer@uva.nl> wrote:
>> Strange, doing (running MacOSX 10.6.6, beta is the directory in which context is installed):
>>
>> 102 beta: mktexlsr
>> mktexlsr: Updating /Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/ls-R...
>> mktexlsr: Done.
>> 103 beta: kpsewhich catc-ini.mkiv
>> /Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/catc-ini.mkiv
>> 104 beta:
>>
>> File is there. Checked again that "context --make en" runs into the same error.
> delete the cache and
> $> mtxrun --generate
> --
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* Re: error updating beta WAS: beta
2011-02-02 10:18 ` Hans van der Meer
2011-02-02 10:25 ` luigi scarso
@ 2011-02-02 12:07 ` Hans Hagen
2011-02-02 12:41 ` Peter Münster
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-02-02 12:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 2-2-2011 11:18, Hans van der Meer wrote:
> Just uploaded latest beta and on "context --make en" got the error:
>
> ! I can't find file `catc-ini.mkiv'.
> <to be read again>
> \relax
> l.76 \loadmarkfile{catc-ini}
>
> Are there still missing files?
no, i'm still trying to get mkii and mkiv working at the same time with
a fundamental different setup strategy .. getting there
Hans
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* Re: error updating beta WAS: beta
2011-02-02 12:07 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2011-02-02 12:41 ` Peter Münster
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From: Peter Münster @ 2011-02-02 12:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> writes:
> no, i'm still trying to get mkii and mkiv working at the same time with a
> fundamental different setup strategy .. getting there
Or perhaps 2 completely different distributions?
mkii: frozen, only some fixes from time to time
mkiv: no more mkii files, no more pdftex, just pure mkiv
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2011-02-02 12:41 ` Peter Münster
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-02-02 13:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 2-2-2011 1:41, Peter Münster wrote:
> Hans Hagen<pragma@wxs.nl> writes:
>
>> no, i'm still trying to get mkii and mkiv working at the same time with a
>> fundamental different setup strategy .. getting there
>
> Or perhaps 2 completely different distributions?
> mkii: frozen, only some fixes from time to time
> mkiv: no more mkii files, no more pdftex, just pure mkiv
this can already be done (just install with the --engine=luatex flag)
the main issue is that mtxrun also replaces the ruby texmfstart script
and texexec is launched via mtxrun; so mtxrun needs to be able to deal
with mkii situations where kpse is used for lookups later on; as the
installer uses the --tree option, and as mkiv has an abstract notion of
the texroot, some hoops have to be jumped through to get it working for
both machineries
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* Re: error updating beta WAS: beta
2011-02-02 13:58 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2011-02-02 14:01 ` Vedran Miletić
2011-02-02 14:21 ` Hans Hagen
2011-02-02 14:50 ` Alan BRASLAU
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From: Vedran Miletić @ 2011-02-02 14:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
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2011/2/2 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>
> On 2-2-2011 1:41, Peter Münster wrote:
>
>> Hans Hagen<pragma@wxs.nl> writes:
>>
>> no, i'm still trying to get mkii and mkiv working at the same time with a
>>> fundamental different setup strategy .. getting there
>>>
>>
>> Or perhaps 2 completely different distributions?
>> mkii: frozen, only some fixes from time to time
>> mkiv: no more mkii files, no more pdftex, just pure mkiv
>>
>
> this can already be done (just install with the --engine=luatex flag)
>
> the main issue is that mtxrun also replaces the ruby texmfstart script and
> texexec is launched via mtxrun; so mtxrun needs to be able to deal with mkii
> situations where kpse is used for lookups later on; as the installer uses
> the --tree option, and as mkiv has an abstract notion of the texroot, some
> hoops have to be jumped through to get it working for both machineries
You mentioned earlier that texexec could be replaced by mtxrun completely,
that only a bit is missing. Would this solve the problem?
Regards,
Vedran Miletić
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* Re: error updating beta WAS: beta
2011-02-02 14:01 ` Vedran Miletić
@ 2011-02-02 14:21 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-02-02 14:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Peter Münster
On 2-2-2011 3:01, Vedran Miletić wrote:
> 2011/2/2 Hans Hagen<pragma@wxs.nl>
>
>> On 2-2-2011 1:41, Peter Münster wrote:
>>
>>> Hans Hagen<pragma@wxs.nl> writes:
>>>
>>> no, i'm still trying to get mkii and mkiv working at the same time with a
>>>> fundamental different setup strategy .. getting there
>>>>
>>>
>>> Or perhaps 2 completely different distributions?
>>> mkii: frozen, only some fixes from time to time
>>> mkiv: no more mkii files, no more pdftex, just pure mkiv
>>>
>>
>> this can already be done (just install with the --engine=luatex flag)
>>
>> the main issue is that mtxrun also replaces the ruby texmfstart script and
>> texexec is launched via mtxrun; so mtxrun needs to be able to deal with mkii
>> situations where kpse is used for lookups later on; as the installer uses
>> the --tree option, and as mkiv has an abstract notion of the texroot, some
>> hoops have to be jumped through to get it working for both machineries
>
>
> You mentioned earlier that texexec could be replaced by mtxrun completely,
> that only a bit is missing. Would this solve the problem?
it would solve the ruby dependency but pdftex/xetex need kpse
Hans
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* Re: error updating beta WAS: beta
2011-02-02 13:58 ` Hans Hagen
2011-02-02 14:01 ` Vedran Miletić
@ 2011-02-02 14:50 ` Alan BRASLAU
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From: Alan BRASLAU @ 2011-02-02 14:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Wednesday 02 February 2011 14:58:25 Hans Hagen wrote:
> some hoops have to be jumped through to get it working for
> both machineries
¡Olé!
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* Re: error updating beta WAS: beta
2011-02-02 11:24 ` Hans van der Meer
@ 2011-02-02 17:21 ` Hans van der Meer
2011-02-02 19:07 ` Hans van der Meer
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From: Hans van der Meer @ 2011-02-02 17:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
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More weird things I am afraid. Experimenting somewhat, I removed the texmf-cahce and did mtxrun --generate.
The first messages is: "/Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta"
and its permissions are: "drwxrwxr-x 7 hans staff 238 2 feb 17:48 beta/"
idem of the parent directory: "drwxr-xr-x 13 hans staff 442 2 feb 10:36 ../"
120 beta: mtxrun --generate
shell-init: error retrieving current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories: No such file or directory
Something wrong here? Something I can/should repair?
Hans van der Meer
On 2 feb 2011, at 12:24, Hans van der Meer wrote:
> Did remove texmf-cache and ran mtxrun --generate. Still get on context --make en the error:
> ! I can't find file `catc-ini.mkiv'.
> <to be read again>
> \relax
> l.76 \loadmarkfile{catc-ini}
>
> Please type another input file name:
>
> (will be away 1 or 2 hours, sorry not able to answer immediately)
> Hans van der Meer
>
> On 2 feb 2011, at 12:05, luigi scarso wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Hans van der Meer <H.vanderMeer@uva.nl> wrote:
>>> Strange, doing (running MacOSX 10.6.6, beta is the directory in which context is installed):
>>>
>>> 102 beta: mktexlsr
>>> mktexlsr: Updating /Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/ls-R...
>>> mktexlsr: Done.
>>> 103 beta: kpsewhich catc-ini.mkiv
>>> /Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/catc-ini.mkiv
>>> 104 beta:
>>>
>>> File is there. Checked again that "context --make en" runs into the same error.
>> delete the cache and
>> $> mtxrun --generate
>> --
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* Re: error updating beta WAS: beta
2011-02-02 12:41 ` Peter Münster
2011-02-02 13:58 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2011-02-02 17:58 ` Vnpenguin
2011-02-02 19:08 ` Peter Münster
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From: Vnpenguin @ 2011-02-02 17:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 13:41, Peter Münster <pmlists@free.fr> wrote:
>
>> no, i'm still trying to get mkii and mkiv working at the same time with a
>> fundamental different setup strategy .. getting there
>
> Or perhaps 2 completely different distributions?
> mkii: frozen, only some fixes from time to time
> mkiv: no more mkii files, no more pdftex, just pure mkiv
Yes, I like this idea. I don't care about mkii, nor pdftex.
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* Re: error updating beta WAS: beta
2011-02-02 17:21 ` Hans van der Meer
@ 2011-02-02 19:07 ` Hans van der Meer
2011-02-02 20:09 ` luigi scarso
2011-02-02 20:18 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans van der Meer @ 2011-02-02 19:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
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More experiments, I am not one to be so easily defeated by software.
Retrieved some old beta's, each time I start a context run then it results in the loadfilemarkerror.
But I can find several formats lying around:
/Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/c180539b697aa06758debbc1182817e4/formats/cont-en.fmt
/Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/c180539b697aa06758debbc1182817e4/formats/cont-nl.fmt
/Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-osx-64/web2c/pdftex/cont-en.fmt
/Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-osx-64/web2c/pdftex/cont-nl.fmt
/Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-osx-64/web2c/xetex/cont-en.fmt
/Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-osx-64/web2c/xetex/cont-nl.fmt
Apparently none of them found! Vide this first message:
MTXrun | warning: no format found, forcing remake (commandline driven)
Here for inspection my .bashrc settings relevant to TeX. Could there be something amiss with these?
# TeX
export TEXLIVE=/usr/local/texlive/2010
export TEXPRIVATE=$HOME/TeX/My-TeXLib
export TEXMINIMAL=$HOME/TeX/ConTeXt/beta
export TEXPATH=$TEXMINIMAL/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin
export TEXMFDBS=$TEXMINIMAL
#$TEXMINIMAL/tex/setuptex
export TEXMF=$TEXMINIMAL
Note: inserting the hashed out line doesn't make a difference.
I append here the full terminal output below, just in case.
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Hans van der Meer
On 2 feb 2011, at 18:21, Hans van der Meer wrote:
> More weird things I am afraid. Experimenting somewhat, I removed the texmf-cahce and did mtxrun --generate.
> The first messages is: "/Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta"
> and its permissions are: "drwxrwxr-x 7 hans staff 238 2 feb 17:48 beta/"
> idem of the parent directory: "drwxr-xr-x 13 hans staff 442 2 feb 10:36 ../"
>
> 120 beta: mtxrun --generate
> shell-init: error retrieving current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories: No such file or directory
>
> Something wrong here? Something I can/should repair?
>
> Hans van der Meer
>
>
> On 2 feb 2011, at 12:24, Hans van der Meer wrote:
>
>> Did remove texmf-cache and ran mtxrun --generate. Still get on context --make en the error:
>> ! I can't find file `catc-ini.mkiv'.
>> <to be read again>
>> \relax
>> l.76 \loadmarkfile{catc-ini}
>>
>> Please type another input file name:
>>
>> (will be away 1 or 2 hours, sorry not able to answer immediately)
>> Hans van der Meer
>>
>> On 2 feb 2011, at 12:05, luigi scarso wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Hans van der Meer <H.vanderMeer@uva.nl> wrote:
>>>> Strange, doing (running MacOSX 10.6.6, beta is the directory in which context is installed):
>>>>
>>>> 102 beta: mktexlsr
>>>> mktexlsr: Updating /Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/ls-R...
>>>> mktexlsr: Done.
>>>> 103 beta: kpsewhich catc-ini.mkiv
>>>> /Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/catc-ini.mkiv
>>>> 104 beta:
>>>>
>>>> File is there. Checked again that "context --make en" runs into the same error.
>>> delete the cache and
>>> $> mtxrun --generate
>>> --
>
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* Re: error updating beta WAS: beta
2011-02-02 17:58 ` Vnpenguin
@ 2011-02-02 19:08 ` Peter Münster
2011-02-02 19:27 ` Hans van der Meer
2011-02-02 20:14 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Peter Münster @ 2011-02-02 19:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Vnpenguin <vnpenguin@vnoss.org> writes:
> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 13:41, Peter Münster <pmlists@free.fr> wrote:
>>
>>> no, i'm still trying to get mkii and mkiv working at the same time with a
>>> fundamental different setup strategy .. getting there
>>
>> Or perhaps 2 completely different distributions?
>> mkii: frozen, only some fixes from time to time
>> mkiv: no more mkii files, no more pdftex, just pure mkiv
>
> Yes, I like this idea. I don't care about mkii, nor pdftex.
In the first place, this idea was meant to make Hans' life easier.
(not the user's life... ;-)
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* Re: error updating beta WAS: beta
2011-02-02 19:08 ` Peter Münster
@ 2011-02-02 19:27 ` Hans van der Meer
2011-02-02 20:14 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans van der Meer @ 2011-02-02 19:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 2 feb 2011, at 20:08, Peter Münster wrote:
> Vnpenguin <vnpenguin@vnoss.org> writes:
>
>> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 13:41, Peter Münster <pmlists@free.fr> wrote:
>>>
>>>> no, i'm still trying to get mkii and mkiv working at the same time with a
>>>> fundamental different setup strategy .. getting there
>>>
>>> Or perhaps 2 completely different distributions?
>>> mkii: frozen, only some fixes from time to time
>>> mkiv: no more mkii files, no more pdftex, just pure mkiv
>>
>> Yes, I like this idea. I don't care about mkii, nor pdftex.
>
> In the first place, this idea was meant to make Hans' life easier.
> (not the user's life... ;-)
>
I strongly support the idea of freezing mkii, apart from repairing obvious bugs in the existing codebase. It will free precious resources and save valuable time. Moreover imho concentrating on mkiv not hampered by compatability issues because of mkii, can only add to its stability.
(It is just like evolution or maybe call it progress. Imagine both our primate ancestors and the dinosaurs being maintained at the same time? Where would we be? ;-)
Hans van der Meer
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* Re: error updating beta WAS: beta
2011-02-02 19:07 ` Hans van der Meer
@ 2011-02-02 20:09 ` luigi scarso
2011-02-02 20:18 ` Hans Hagen
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From: luigi scarso @ 2011-02-02 20:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Hans van der Meer <H.vanderMeer@uva.nl> wrote:
> More experiments, I am not one to be so easily defeated by software.
> Retrieved some old beta's, each time I start a context run then it results in the loadfilemarkerror.
> But I can find several formats lying around:
> /Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/c180539b697aa06758debbc1182817e4/formats/cont-en.fmt
> /Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/c180539b697aa06758debbc1182817e4/formats/cont-nl.fmt
> /Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-osx-64/web2c/pdftex/cont-en.fmt
> /Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-osx-64/web2c/pdftex/cont-nl.fmt
> /Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-osx-64/web2c/xetex/cont-en.fmt
> /Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-osx-64/web2c/xetex/cont-nl.fmt
> Apparently none of them found! Vide this first message:
> MTXrun | warning: no format found, forcing remake (commandline driven)
It's a Mac OS system (sorry, I though it was linux).
Can you try the latest minimals under
/Users/hans/LuaTeX
(just to be sure to avoid conflicts)
?
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* Re: error updating beta WAS: beta
2011-02-02 19:08 ` Peter Münster
2011-02-02 19:27 ` Hans van der Meer
@ 2011-02-02 20:14 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-02-02 20:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Peter Münster
On 2-2-2011 8:08, Peter Münster wrote:
> Vnpenguin<vnpenguin@vnoss.org> writes:
>
>> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 13:41, Peter Münster<pmlists@free.fr> wrote:
>>>
>>>> no, i'm still trying to get mkii and mkiv working at the same time with a
>>>> fundamental different setup strategy .. getting there
>>>
>>> Or perhaps 2 completely different distributions?
>>> mkii: frozen, only some fixes from time to time
>>> mkiv: no more mkii files, no more pdftex, just pure mkiv
>>
>> Yes, I like this idea. I don't care about mkii, nor pdftex.
>
> In the first place, this idea was meant to make Hans' life easier.
> (not the user's life... ;-)
as there is not much code written for mkii the burden for me is not that
large; also, now that the codebase is completely split, there is less
danger of changes in one affecting the other
also, there are mkii users out there, including collegues, so it won't
be dropped
installing mkiv only is already possible for a while
ok, we can have less files if we make a zip split, something that might
happen at some point (i need to adapt my assembling script then)
for a moment i considered
base/mkii
base/mkiv
base/common
but it might not be worth the effort,
Hans
(who after many hours finally managed to get a beta of one of his
favourite programs working on suse 11.3 as it kept crashing linux on
11.2 but well, it's beta for a reason)
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* Re: error updating beta WAS: beta
2011-02-02 19:07 ` Hans van der Meer
2011-02-02 20:09 ` luigi scarso
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-02-02 20:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 2-2-2011 8:07, Hans van der Meer wrote:
> More experiments, I am not one to be so easily defeated by software.
> Retrieved some old beta's, each time I start a context run then it results in the loadfilemarkerror.
> But I can find several formats lying around:
> /Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/c180539b697aa06758debbc1182817e4/formats/cont-en.fmt
> /Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/c180539b697aa06758debbc1182817e4/formats/cont-nl.fmt
best wipe the cache as the latest version uses a different hash so the
oldest path is obsolete
> /Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-osx-64/web2c/pdftex/cont-en.fmt
> /Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-osx-64/web2c/pdftex/cont-nl.fmt
> /Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-osx-64/web2c/xetex/cont-en.fmt
> /Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta/tex/texmf-osx-64/web2c/xetex/cont-nl.fmt
looks ok
> Apparently none of them found! Vide this first message:
> MTXrun | warning: no format found, forcing remake (commandline driven)
hm, the latest beta?
> export TEXLIVE=/usr/local/texlive/2010
> export TEXPRIVATE=$HOME/TeX/My-TeXLib
> export TEXMINIMAL=$HOME/TeX/ConTeXt/beta
> export TEXPATH=$TEXMINIMAL/tex/texmf-osx-64/bin
> export TEXMFDBS=$TEXMINIMAL
> #$TEXMINIMAL/tex/setuptex
> export TEXMF=$TEXMINIMAL
> Note: inserting the hashed out line doesn't make a difference.
you can check what mtxrun --generate returns as variables right at the
start
also, configuration of mkiv happens in texmfcnf.lua (see contextcnf.lua
for the future version of it, but that's for Mojca to decide)
Hans
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* Re: error updating beta WAS: beta
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@ 2011-02-02 22:01 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-02-02 22:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Hans van der Meer, mailing list for ConTeXt users
On 2-2-2011 10:00, Hans van der Meer wrote:
> Looking at these variables doesn't look good, I suspect:
> MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'SELFAUTOLOC' set to '/Users/hans/Bin'
> MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'SELFAUTODIR' set to '/Users/hans'
> MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'SELFAUTOPARENT' set to '/Users'
> MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'TEXMFCNF' set to ''
> MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'TEXMF' set to '/Users/hans/TeX/ConTeXt/beta'
> MTXrun | resolvers: variable 'TEXOS' set to 'hans'
> MTXrun | resolvers
> MTXrun | resolvers: unknown configuration file '/Users/texmf-local/texmfcnf.lua'
> MTXrun | resolvers: unknown configuration file '/Users/texmf-local/web2c/texmfcnf.lua'
> MTXrun | resolvers: unknown configuration file '/Users/texmf/texmfcnf.lua'
> MTXrun | resolvers: unknown configuration file '/Users/texmf/web2c/texmfcnf.lua'
> MTXrun | resolvers: unknown configuration file '/Users/texmfcnf.lua'
> MTXrun | resolvers
> MTXrun | resolvers: warning: no lua configuration files found
>
> If for example TEXOS has to be the name of an operating system or machine, than it is far beyond the mark.
> And /Userstexmf-local... ?? These are not users in the system!
> How and where are these variables acquired?
texos is only used to guess the texmf-[texos]/bin path
so, indeed, if you don't conform to the minimal structure it is not that
meaningful
anyhow, you have no configuration file in a known place so you can try
to set it yourself (TEXMFCNF=path_to_your_cnffile)
you cannot expect the minimals to work with arbitrary tree setups
normally this problem is just a side effect of putting binaries in a
spot that the SELF* variables cannot relate to
you can have extra bins of course, for instance I have (as i need to
test it):
texmf-mswin
texmf-mswin-new
texmf-mswin-texlive
and set up my console with:
SET PATH=%MYTEXROOT%\texmf-mswin-live\bin;%PATH%
SET PATH=%MYTEXROOT%\texmf-mswin\bin;%PATH%
SET PATH=%MYTEXROOT%\texmf-mswin-new\bin;%PATH%
so, the newest bins are taken first (under texroot are also the regular
minimal paths as wel as texmf-mine that has some dev files) ... so there
are plenty of ways to extend the minimals
also, I have a couple of dev paths added to the regular paths and do
that in a local extra texmfcnf.lua file (multiple files are supported)
Hans
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