From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/66151 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: defined symbols - question/feature suggestion Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:21:17 +0100 Message-ID: <4D5E9C7D.4040306@wxs.nl> References: <60157C18-F6B8-4EE0-BAF2-C9D71EEFA370@awi.de> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1298046115 19275 80.91.229.12 (18 Feb 2011 16:21:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 16:21:55 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Feb 18 17:21:50 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PqT5a-0000no-0x for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:21:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7872ECAA54; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:21:49 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id IFo4eeZG-BDs; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:21:36 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4EF1CAA48; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:21:36 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDB1FCAA48 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:21:35 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id vplxdXvQI3wI for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:21:24 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter4-til.mf.surf.net (filter4-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.220]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA79CAA3A for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:21:24 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from smtp.ziggozakelijk.nl (D57D1DA2.static.ziggozakelijk.nl [213.125.29.162]) by filter4-til.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id p1IGLN8D027398 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:21:24 +0100 X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=loggedin (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=10.100.1.100; Original-Received: from [10.100.1.100] (unverified [10.100.1.100]) by pragma-net.nl (SurgeMail 5.1c2) with ESMTP id 5514-1713362 for multiple; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:21:20 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 ThunderBrowse/3.3.4 In-Reply-To: <60157C18-F6B8-4EE0-BAF2-C9D71EEFA370@awi.de> X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-9 X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=213.125.29.162; country=NL; region=11; city=Den Haag; latitude=52.0833; longitude=4.3000; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.0833,4.3000&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 05E9slnGq - be6e2cffb324 - 20110218 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.220 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:66151 Archived-At: On 18-2-2011 10:39, Florian Wobbe wrote: > Hi Hans, > > in symb-mis.mkiv you define most symbols with \mathematics. I don't know why you take these symbols from the math font. Just in case the symbol does not exist in the regular font, I would guess. > > Problem is only, that you will loose most symbols when switching the math font to something else than computer-modern (I tested with euler and cambria). BTW: I wonder how many contexters use modern for math... > > Anyway it appears most fonts have geometric shapes and common symbols and dingbats. So I end up redefining the symbols: > > \definesymbol [bullet] [\textbullet] > \definesymbol [dash] [--] > \definesymbol [star] [\char"2734] > \definesymbol [triangle] [\char"25B6] > \definesymbol [square] [\char"25A0] > \definesymbol [diamond] [\char"25C6] > \definesymbol [checkmark] [\char"2713] > > Also it looks nicer when you use item symbols matching the text font. > > Maybe you would consider this and prefer symbols from the text font rather than those from the math font and keep \mathematics only as fall back should the glyph be unavailable. It is on the agenda to look into this. These definitions relate to the fact that not all fonts had/have such characters. Also, textbullet is normally way too small for my taste. References like \char"25B6 are likely to fail on most fonts Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________