* some equivalent of latex beamer \item<uncover@1>?
@ 2011-02-18 20:35 Pau
2011-02-19 11:42 ` Hans Hagen
2011-02-20 18:58 ` Mojca Miklavec
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From: Pau @ 2011-02-18 20:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hello,
I am trying to implement a similar effect to latex beamer's
\begin{itemize}
\item<uncover@1>
\item<uncover@2>
\item<uncover@3->
\end{itemize}
What'd be the equivalent/similar/better of that in ConTeXt?
thanks!
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* Re: some equivalent of latex beamer \item<uncover@1>?
2011-02-18 20:35 some equivalent of latex beamer \item<uncover@1>? Pau
@ 2011-02-19 11:42 ` Hans Hagen
2011-02-19 20:57 ` Pau
2011-02-20 18:58 ` Mojca Miklavec
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-02-19 11:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 18-2-2011 9:35, Pau wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am trying to implement a similar effect to latex beamer's
>
> \begin{itemize}
> \item<uncover@1>
> \item<uncover@2>
> \item<uncover@3->
> \end{itemize}
quite a horrible syntax
> What'd be the equivalent/similar/better of that in ConTeXt?
see s-pre-6* and s-pre-7* styles (often examples at the end)
Hans
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* Re: some equivalent of latex beamer \item<uncover@1>?
2011-02-19 11:42 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2011-02-19 20:57 ` Pau
2011-02-19 23:07 ` Hans Hagen
2011-02-20 8:13 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Pau @ 2011-02-19 20:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Hans Hagen; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Hello Hans,
thanks for your reply.
This is
Installed Packages
Name : texlive-context
Arch : i686
Version : 2007
Release : 56.fc14
Size : 103 k
Repo : installed
From repo : fedora
Summary : ConTeXt is a document preparation system based on TeX
URL : http://tug.org/texlive/
License : GPLv2 and BSD and Public Domain and LGPLv2+ and GPLv2+ and LPPL
Description : ConTeXt is a document preparation system based on TeX.
on fedora 14 (latest release).
It seems that texlive is not the latest what you have. I don't know
whether that makes a difference.
In any case, I only have these here:
deukalion(pts/101)| locate s-pre-6
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/s-pre-60.tex
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/s-pre-61.tex
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/s-pre-62.tex
/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/s-pre-63.tex
deukalion(pts/101)| locate s-pre-7
So, no s-pre-7*
In one of the 60 I have seen what seems to be what I asked for:
In s-pre-61.tex I see
\StartSteps
\startitemize
\item Mark Hollis \FlushStep
\item Roger Waters \FlushStep
\item David Gilmore \FlushStep
\item Peter Gabriel \FlushStep
\item Randy Newman \FlushStep
\stopitemize
\StopSteps
Obviously I have to define Steps and I am using for my presentation pre-fuzzy
How could I add Step to pre-fuzzy?
I have looked into s-pre-61.tex to see whether I could get an idea (I
apologise for my ignorance).
However, I do not see the function defined in it and, when I tried to
run texexec on "exemple.tex", which uses it as
------------
\usemodule[s-pre-61]
\usemodule[amsl]
\useMPlibrary[txt]
\starttext
\Topic{And Some More}
\StartSteps
\startitemize
\item Mark Hollis \FlushStep
\item Roger Waters \FlushStep
\item David Gilmore \FlushStep
\item Peter Gabriel \FlushStep
\item Randy Newman \FlushStep
\stopitemize
\StopSteps
\stoptext
------------------------------
If fails :
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
deukalion(pts/101)| texexec exemple.tex
TeXExec | processing document 'exemple.tex'
TeXExec | no ctx file found
TeXExec | tex processing method: context
TeXExec | TeX run 1
TeXExec | writing option file exemple.top
TeXExec | using randomseed 1381
TeXExec | tex engine: pdftex
TeXExec | tex format: cont-en
This is pdfTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.40.3 (Web2C 7.5.6)
%&-line parsing enabled.
(/usr/share/texmf/web2c/natural.tcx)
entering extended mode
(./exemple.tex
ConTeXt ver: 2007.01.12 15:56 MKII fmt: 2010.11.3 int: english/english
language : language en is active
system : cont-new loaded
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex
systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.mkii))
system : cont-old loaded
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex
loading : Context Old Macros
)
system : cont-fil loaded
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex
loading : Context File Synonyms
)
system : cont-sys loaded
(/home/pau/fitx_confg/texinputs/cont-sys.tex
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex))
bodyfont : 12pt rm is loaded
language : patterns en->ec:ec->1->2:3 uk->ec:ec->2->2:3 de->texnansi:tex
nansi->3->2:3 de->ec:ec->4->2:3 fr->texnansi:texnansi->5->2:3 fr->ec:ec->6->2:3
es->ec:ec->7->2:3 pt->texnansi:texnansi->8->2:3 pt->ec:ec->9->2:3 it->texnansi
:texnansi->10->2:3 it->ec:ec->11->2:3 nl->texnansi:texnansi->12->2:3 nl->ec:ec-
>13->2:3 cz->il2:il2->14->2:3 cz->ec:ec->15->2:3 sk->il2:il2->16->2:3 sk->ec:ec
->17->2:3 pl->pl0:pl0->18->2:3 pl->ec:ec->19->2:3 pl->qx:qx->20->2:3 loaded
specials : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded
system : exemple.top loaded
(./exemple.top
specials : loading definition file tpd
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-tpd.tex
specials : loading definition file fdf
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.tex
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.mkii))
specials : fdf loaded
)
specials : fdf,tpd loaded
)
systems : system commands are disabled
system : module s-pre-61 loaded
(./s-pre-61.tex
system : module pre-60 loaded
(./s-pre-60.tex
javascript : loading script set stp
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/java-stp.tex)
metapost : loading metapost library nav
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/meta-nav.tex))
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-ghz.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex)
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/type-ghz.tex)kpathsea: Running
mktextfm ec-lt55483
mktextfm: Running mf-nowin -progname=mf \mode:=ljfour; mag:=1;
nonstopmode; input ec-lt55483
This is METAFONT, Version 2.71828 (Web2C 7.5.6)
kpathsea: Running mktexmf ec-lt55483
! I can't find file `ec-lt55483'.
<*> ...four; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input ec-lt55483
Please type another input file name
! Emergency stop.
<*> ...four; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input ec-lt55483
Transcript written on mfput.log.
grep: ec-lt55483.log: No such file or directory
mktextfm: `mf-nowin -progname=mf \mode:=ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode;
input ec-lt55483' failed to make ec-lt55483.tfm.
kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log.
! Font \*mainface12ptsstfss*:=ec-lt55483 at 12.0pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) f
ile not found.
<to be read again>
\relax
\xxdododefinefont ...tspec {#4}\newfontidentifier
\let \localrelativefontsiz...
\fontstrategy ...me \fontclass #2#3#4#5\endcsname
\tryingfontfalse \fi
<inserted text> ...yle \fontalternative \fontsize
\fi \iftryingfont \fontstr...
\synchronizefont ...strategy \the \fontstrategies
\relax \fi \iftryingfont \...
<argument> \getvalue {\@style@ \fontstyle }
\edef \fontstyle {\fontstyle }\if...
...
l.22 \setupbodyfont[mainface,ss,18pt]
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
How can I use Steps with pre-fuzzy and what am I doing wrong altogether?
Thanks in any case for everything!
Pau
On 19 February 2011 12:42, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> On 18-2-2011 9:35, Pau wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am trying to implement a similar effect to latex beamer's
>>
>> \begin{itemize}
>> \item<uncover@1>
>> \item<uncover@2>
>> \item<uncover@3->
>> \end{itemize}
>
> quite a horrible syntax
>
>> What'd be the equivalent/similar/better of that in ConTeXt?
>
> see s-pre-6* and s-pre-7* styles (often examples at the end)
>
> Hans
>
>
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* Re: some equivalent of latex beamer \item<uncover@1>?
2011-02-19 20:57 ` Pau
@ 2011-02-19 23:07 ` Hans Hagen
2011-02-20 0:13 ` Pau
2011-02-20 13:16 ` Pau
2011-02-20 8:13 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-02-19 23:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: vim.unix; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users, Pau
On 19-2-2011 9:57, Pau wrote:
> Hello Hans,
>
> thanks for your reply.
>
> This is
>
> Installed Packages
> Name : texlive-context
the minimals have some more
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* Re: some equivalent of latex beamer \item<uncover@1>?
2011-02-19 23:07 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2011-02-20 0:13 ` Pau
2011-02-20 13:16 ` Pau
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From: Pau @ 2011-02-20 0:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Hans Hagen; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Hello,
since I somehow managed to end up in the rpm dependence hell with a
broken "update" of texlive, I went and did a manual *full* install of
texlive 2010... still, I do not find more examples.
Could you enlighten my ignorance with a concise example?
thanks
On 20 February 2011 00:07, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> On 19-2-2011 9:57, Pau wrote:
>>
>> Hello Hans,
>>
>> thanks for your reply.
>>
>> This is
>>
>> Installed Packages
>> Name : texlive-context
>
> the minimals have some more
>
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* Re: some equivalent of latex beamer \item<uncover@1>?
2011-02-19 20:57 ` Pau
2011-02-19 23:07 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2011-02-20 8:13 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2011-02-20 11:13 ` Pau
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2011-02-20 8:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 19.02.2011 um 21:57 schrieb Pau:
> Obviously I have to define Steps and I am using for my presentation pre-fuzzy
>
> How could I add Step to pre-fuzzy?
>
> I have looked into s-pre-61.tex to see whether I could get an idea (I
> apologise for my ignorance).
To use the step-machanism you can load the file “pre-stepwise”, e.g.
\usemodule[pre-stepwise]
\starttext
\StartSteps
\startitemize
\item one \FlushStep
\item two \FlushStep
\item three \FlushStep
\stopitemize
\StopSteps
\stoptext
is enough. To add the function to “pre-fuzzy” you can try
\usemodule[pre-fuzzy,pre-stepwise]
\starttext
...
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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* Re: some equivalent of latex beamer \item<uncover@1>?
2011-02-20 8:13 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2011-02-20 11:13 ` Pau
2011-02-20 11:25 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Pau @ 2011-02-20 11:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Wolfgang Schuster; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Dear Wolfgang,
thanks a lot for your clear and detailed example.
However I seem to be missing the pre-stepwise module and I do not understand why
I have followed step by step this
http://www.tug.org/texlive/acquire-netinstall.html
and everything has worked just fine. As a matter of fact
deukalion(pts/113)| texexec --check | grep source
TeXExec | context source date: 2010.05.24 13:05
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't texlive supposed to give me a full
working recent version of all of context and its modules?
thanks for everything
On 20 February 2011 09:13, Wolfgang Schuster
<schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> Am 19.02.2011 um 21:57 schrieb Pau:
>
>> Obviously I have to define Steps and I am using for my presentation pre-fuzzy
>>
>> How could I add Step to pre-fuzzy?
>>
>> I have looked into s-pre-61.tex to see whether I could get an idea (I
>> apologise for my ignorance).
>
> To use the step-machanism you can load the file “pre-stepwise”, e.g.
>
> \usemodule[pre-stepwise]
>
> \starttext
>
> \StartSteps
>
> \startitemize
> \item one \FlushStep
> \item two \FlushStep
> \item three \FlushStep
> \stopitemize
>
> \StopSteps
>
> \stoptext
>
> is enough. To add the function to “pre-fuzzy” you can try
>
> \usemodule[pre-fuzzy,pre-stepwise]
>
> \starttext
> ...
> \stoptext
>
> Wolfgang
>
>
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* Re: some equivalent of latex beamer \item<uncover@1>?
2011-02-20 11:13 ` Pau
@ 2011-02-20 11:25 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2011-02-20 11:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 20.02.2011 um 12:13 schrieb Pau:
> Dear Wolfgang,
>
> thanks a lot for your clear and detailed example.
>
> However I seem to be missing the pre-stepwise module and I do not understand why
You need the file “s-pre-60.tex” (or “s-pre-60.mkii|mkiv”), “pre-stepwise” is
just a synonym for this file.
> I have followed step by step this
>
> http://www.tug.org/texlive/acquire-netinstall.html
>
> and everything has worked just fine. As a matter of fact
>
> deukalion(pts/113)| texexec --check | grep source
> TeXExec | context source date: 2010.05.24 13:05
>
> Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't texlive supposed to give me a full
> working recent version of all of context and its modules?
Modules are updated but context itself will always stay the same version
till the next texlive version because mkiv needs always a certain luatex
version and mkii is frozen.
Wolfgang
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* Re: some equivalent of latex beamer \item<uncover@1>?
2011-02-19 23:07 ` Hans Hagen
2011-02-20 0:13 ` Pau
@ 2011-02-20 13:16 ` Pau
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From: Pau @ 2011-02-20 13:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Thanks to Wolfgang's (seemingly infinite amount of!!) patience, I have
managed to get this one running.
I have one question, though.
Has anybody been successful at running any other software than
acroread for pdf documents which require javascript functions such as
in this example?
This should probably go to a different thread but, since it is the
first time I run into this snag, it kind of makes sense to have it
stick to the Steps function problem I had
Thanks to everybody for your help, context and everything!
Pau
On 20 February 2011 00:07, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> On 19-2-2011 9:57, Pau wrote:
>>
>> Hello Hans,
>>
>> thanks for your reply.
>>
>> This is
>>
>> Installed Packages
>> Name : texlive-context
>
> the minimals have some more
>
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* Re: some equivalent of latex beamer \item<uncover@1>?
2011-02-18 20:35 some equivalent of latex beamer \item<uncover@1>? Pau
2011-02-19 11:42 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2011-02-20 18:58 ` Mojca Miklavec
2011-02-20 23:57 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2011-02-20 18:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 21:35, Pau wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am trying to implement a similar effect to latex beamer's
>
> \begin{itemize}
> \item<uncover@1>
> \item<uncover@2>
> \item<uncover@3->
> \end{itemize}
>
> What'd be the equivalent/similar/better of that in ConTeXt?
Apart from JavaScript-based mechanism somebody used to write t-rsteps
module long time ago:
http://modules.contextgarden.net/t-rsteps
which creates multiple slides instead of using JavaScript (the same
way as Beamer does, but is probably more primitive).
It worked nicely (I used it several times), but I haven't tested it
recently, so I'm not sure if it still works fine with recent ConTeXt
versions.
It would be great if \StartSteps, \FlushStep, ... written by Hans
would also optionally support creating multiple slides for viewers
other than Acrobat.
Mojca
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* Re: some equivalent of latex beamer \item<uncover@1>?
2011-02-20 18:58 ` Mojca Miklavec
@ 2011-02-20 23:57 ` Hans Hagen
2011-02-21 7:00 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-02-20 23:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Mojca Miklavec
On 20-2-2011 7:58, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 21:35, Pau wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am trying to implement a similar effect to latex beamer's
>>
>> \begin{itemize}
>> \item<uncover@1>
>> \item<uncover@2>
>> \item<uncover@3->
>> \end{itemize}
>>
>> What'd be the equivalent/similar/better of that in ConTeXt?
>
> Apart from JavaScript-based mechanism somebody used to write t-rsteps
> module long time ago:
> http://modules.contextgarden.net/t-rsteps
> which creates multiple slides instead of using JavaScript (the same
> way as Beamer does, but is probably more primitive).
>
> It worked nicely (I used it several times), but I haven't tested it
> recently, so I'm not sure if it still works fine with recent ConTeXt
> versions.
>
> It would be great if \StartSteps, \FlushStep, ... written by Hans
> would also optionally support creating multiple slides for viewers
> other than Acrobat.
Not in the short term, i might give it a try some day but I hate
mechanisms that interfere with others in unpredictable ways as do such
multiple page solutions (references, spacing etc) unless one sticks to
predictable structure and wants to patch core macros for this kind of
stuff which is not what I like. Also, I've never seen anyone do a
presentation with another viewer.
Hans
(who wonders why no one adds simple javascript support to the other pdf
viewers, a reasonable subset would do)
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* Re: some equivalent of latex beamer \item<uncover@1>?
2011-02-20 23:57 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2011-02-21 7:00 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2011-02-21 8:14 ` Hans Hagen
2011-02-21 7:48 ` Taco Hoekwater
2011-02-21 9:01 ` Marco
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From: Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2011-02-21 7:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
On Feb 21, 2011, at 12:57 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Not in the short term, i might give it a try some day but I hate mechanisms that interfere with others in unpredictable ways as do such multiple page solutions (references, spacing etc) unless one sticks to predictable structure and wants to patch core macros for this kind of stuff which is not what I like. Also, I've never seen anyone do a presentation with another viewer.
>
> Hans
>
> (who wonders why no one adds simple javascript support to the other pdf viewers, a reasonable subset would do)
I do presentations with evince, okular, or Apple's Preview when I'm on OS X. I avoid Adobe Reader as much as I can because it's incredibly bloated (more so at every new version), insists on taking over my operating system (almost impossible to keep it from checking for updates, helpfully "repairing" components and features that I have explicitly disabled), still doesn't autorefresh, and has uglier font rendering, especially in linux. So I don't like javascript solutions at all.
For the problem at hand, maybe I'm naive, but here's my thoughts: would it be very hard to implement an alternative with layers? All we need for stepwise stuff to work would be
- reset userpagenumber to current value
- collect everything on slide in layer X, add layer X + 1 on top of this.
Or is this too simplistic?
Thomas
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* Re: some equivalent of latex beamer \item<uncover@1>?
2011-02-20 23:57 ` Hans Hagen
2011-02-21 7:00 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
@ 2011-02-21 7:48 ` Taco Hoekwater
2011-02-21 8:07 ` Mojca Miklavec
2011-02-21 8:11 ` Hans Hagen
2011-02-21 9:01 ` Marco
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From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2011-02-21 7:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Hans Hagen, Mojca Miklavec
On 02/21/2011 12:57 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>
>> It would be great if \StartSteps, \FlushStep, ... written by Hans
>> would also optionally support creating multiple slides for viewers
>> other than Acrobat.
>
> Not in the short term, i might give it a try some day but I hate
> mechanisms that interfere with others in unpredictable ways as do such
> multiple page solutions (references, spacing etc) unless one sticks to
> predictable structure and wants to patch core macros for this kind of
> stuff which is not what I like. Also, I've never seen anyone do a
> presentation with another viewer.
Ehm ... isn't that what s-pre-50 does already?
Best wishes,
Taco
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* Re: some equivalent of latex beamer \item<uncover@1>?
2011-02-21 7:48 ` Taco Hoekwater
@ 2011-02-21 8:07 ` Mojca Miklavec
2011-02-21 8:11 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2011-02-21 8:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 08:48, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> On 02/21/2011 12:57 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>>
>>> It would be great if \StartSteps, \FlushStep, ... written by Hans
>>> would also optionally support creating multiple slides for viewers
>>> other than Acrobat.
>>
>> Not in the short term, i might give it a try some day but I hate
>> mechanisms that interfere with others in unpredictable ways as do such
>> multiple page solutions (references, spacing etc) unless one sticks to
>> predictable structure and wants to patch core macros for this kind of
>> stuff which is not what I like. Also, I've never seen anyone do a
>> presentation with another viewer.
>
> Ehm ... isn't that what s-pre-50 does already?
Interesting.
Thanks a lot for pointing it out.
(It does lack some less important features like "only put this on
slide nr. 2", but the current functionality already covers most of
one's needs.)
Thanks again,
Mojca
PS: I won't blame myself for not knowing the file was there if not
even Hans remembered :) :) :)
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* Re: some equivalent of latex beamer \item<uncover@1>?
2011-02-21 7:48 ` Taco Hoekwater
2011-02-21 8:07 ` Mojca Miklavec
@ 2011-02-21 8:11 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-02-21 8:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Taco Hoekwater; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users, Mojca Miklavec
On 21-2-2011 8:48, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> On 02/21/2011 12:57 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>>
>>> It would be great if \StartSteps, \FlushStep, ... written by Hans
>>> would also optionally support creating multiple slides for viewers
>>> other than Acrobat.
>>
>> Not in the short term, i might give it a try some day but I hate
>> mechanisms that interfere with others in unpredictable ways as do such
>> multiple page solutions (references, spacing etc) unless one sticks to
>> predictable structure and wants to patch core macros for this kind of
>> stuff which is not what I like. Also, I've never seen anyone do a
>> presentation with another viewer.
>
> Ehm ... isn't that what s-pre-50 does already?
indeed, and that's about as far as was reasonable (haven't used it in
years)
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* Re: some equivalent of latex beamer \item<uncover@1>?
2011-02-21 7:00 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
@ 2011-02-21 8:14 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-02-21 8:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Thomas A. Schmitz
On 21-2-2011 8:00, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>
> On Feb 21, 2011, at 12:57 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>> Not in the short term, i might give it a try some day but I hate mechanisms that interfere with others in unpredictable ways as do such multiple page solutions (references, spacing etc) unless one sticks to predictable structure and wants to patch core macros for this kind of stuff which is not what I like. Also, I've never seen anyone do a presentation with another viewer.
>>
>> Hans
>>
>> (who wonders why no one adds simple javascript support to the other pdf viewers, a reasonable subset would do)
>
> I do presentations with evince, okular, or Apple's Preview when I'm on OS X. I avoid Adobe Reader as much as I can because it's incredibly bloated (more so at every new version), insists on taking over my operating system (almost impossible to keep it from checking for updates, helpfully "repairing" components and features that I have explicitly disabled), still doesn't autorefresh, and has uglier font rendering, especially in linux. So I don't like javascript solutions at all.
>
> For the problem at hand, maybe I'm naive, but here's my thoughts: would it be very hard to implement an alternative with layers? All we need for stepwise stuff to work would be
> - reset userpagenumber to current value
> - collect everything on slide in layer X, add layer X + 1 on top of this.
>
> Or is this too simplistic?
there are presentation styles that do that indeed and it works as long
as you don't rely on multipass trickery like automatically generated
tocs and so (some can be intercepted, some not) .. but it's long ago
that i used them so there might be clever tricks at work there
Hans
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* Re: some equivalent of latex beamer \item<uncover@1>?
2011-02-20 23:57 ` Hans Hagen
2011-02-21 7:00 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2011-02-21 7:48 ` Taco Hoekwater
@ 2011-02-21 9:01 ` Marco
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From: Marco @ 2011-02-21 9:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
On 2011-02-21 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> Also, I've never seen anyone do a presentation with another viewer.
I do. I never use Acrobat Reader.
> (who wonders why no one adds simple javascript support to the other pdf
> viewers, a reasonable subset would do)
I don't think adding JavaScript is a feasible solution. It's very unlikely to
be added to all PDF readers. I favour the multi page solution, since it works
in all readers without problems.
Marco
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