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@ 2011-03-25 17:30 Hans Hagen
  2011-03-25 18:06 ` beta (broken?) Marco
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-03-25 17:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi,

I uploaded a new beta. There are quite some changes this time:

- backend code has been reorganized and cleaned up and aspects of 
interaction have been partially reimplemented (like widgets) in a more 
mkiv-ish way (or actually mkvi); widgets now have an updated inheritance 
model

- the font related lua code has been cleaned up and reorganized as well 
and; the cached data is different, the memory footprint is somewhat 
smaller, processing can be a bit faster, font related parameters are 
better organized in subtables in the font instance, etc

- the generic font code (in luatex-fonts) has been stripped from context 
related features so that it is easier to cook up mkiv specific 
extensions without too much interference (or side effects) for the 
generic code

- a couple of fixes (like discussed on this list the last few weeks) 
have been applied

Hans

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* Re: beta (broken?)
  2011-03-25 17:30 beta Hans Hagen
@ 2011-03-25 18:06 ` Marco
  2011-03-25 18:24   ` Hans Hagen
  2011-03-25 19:23 ` beta Aditya Mahajan
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From: Marco @ 2011-03-25 18:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ntg-context

On 2011-03-25 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I uploaded a new beta. There are quite some changes this time:

The following doesn't compile:

\starttext
\input knuth
\stoptext

Output:

! LuaTeX error ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otp.lua:358: attempt to index local 'resources' (a nil value)
stack traceback:
        ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otp.lua:358: in function 'enhancer'
        ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:250: in function 'enhance'
        ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:471: in function 'load'
        ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:1760: in function 'otftotfm'
        ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:1787: in function 'read_from_otf'
        ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:1866: in function <...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:1855>
        (tail call): ?
        (tail call): ?
        ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-def.lua:286: in function 'loadfont'
        ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-ctx.lua:230: in function 'loadfont'
        ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-def.lua:397: in function 'read'
        ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-ctx.lua:642: in function 'stage_two'
        <main ctx instance>:1: in main chunk.


This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.65.0-2010121317
ConTeXt  ver: 2011.03.25 18:03 MKIV


Marco


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* Re: beta (broken?)
  2011-03-25 18:06 ` beta (broken?) Marco
@ 2011-03-25 18:24   ` Hans Hagen
  2011-03-25 18:58     ` Marco
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-03-25 18:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Marco

On 25-3-2011 7:06, Marco wrote:
> On 2011-03-25 Hans Hagen<pragma@wxs.nl>  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I uploaded a new beta. There are quite some changes this time:
>
> The following doesn't compile:
>
> \starttext
> \input knuth
> \stoptext
>
> Output:

weird ...


in font-otp.lua there is in line 347:

     local reload = not data or data.size ~= size or data.time ~= time

can you add there

print(data,data and data.size,data and data.time,size,time)

and then remake the format and try again? I want to know what gets 
reported there


> ! LuaTeX error ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otp.lua:358: attempt to index local 'resources' (a nil value)
> stack traceback:
>          ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otp.lua:358: in function 'enhancer'
>          ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:250: in function 'enhance'
>          ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:471: in function 'load'
>          ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:1760: in function 'otftotfm'
>          ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:1787: in function 'read_from_otf'
>          ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:1866: in function<...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:1855>
>          (tail call): ?
>          (tail call): ?
>          ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-def.lua:286: in function 'loadfont'
>          ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-ctx.lua:230: in function 'loadfont'
>          ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-def.lua:397: in function 'read'
>          ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-ctx.lua:642: in function 'stage_two'
>          <main ctx instance>:1: in main chunk.
>
>
> This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.65.0-2010121317
> ConTeXt  ver: 2011.03.25 18:03 MKIV
>
>
> Marco
>
>
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* Re: beta (broken?)
  2011-03-25 18:24   ` Hans Hagen
@ 2011-03-25 18:58     ` Marco
  2011-03-25 19:56       ` Hans Hagen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread
From: Marco @ 2011-03-25 18:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ntg-context

On 2011-03-25 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:

> weird ...
> 
> 
> in font-otp.lua there is in line 347:

This line is in font-otf.lua. I added it there.

>      local reload = not data or data.size ~= size or data.time ~= time
> 
> can you add there
> 
> print(data,data and data.size,data and data.time,size,time)
> 
> and then remake the format and try again? I want to know what gets 
> reported there

table: a6330d0   110400  1254938640      110400  1254938640

! LuaTeX error ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otp.lua:358:
attempt to index local 'resources' (a nil value) stack traceback:
        ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otp.lua:358: in
function
'enhancer' ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:250: in
function
'enhance' ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:472: in
function 'load' ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:1761:
in function
'otftotfm' ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:1788: in
function
'read_from_otf' ...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:1867:
in function <...text/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/font-otf.lua:1856>
(tail call): ?


Marco


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* Re: beta
  2011-03-25 17:30 beta Hans Hagen
  2011-03-25 18:06 ` beta (broken?) Marco
@ 2011-03-25 19:23 ` Aditya Mahajan
  2011-03-25 19:41   ` beta Peter Münster
  2011-03-25 19:52   ` beta Hans Hagen
  2011-03-25 22:03 ` beta mathew
  2011-03-26  1:16 ` beta Li Yanrui (李延瑞)
  3 siblings, 2 replies; 36+ messages in thread
From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2011-03-25 19:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users

On Fri, 25 Mar 2011, Hans Hagen wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I uploaded a new beta. There are quite some changes this time:

FWIW, the installtion of beta works fine for me.

> - backend code has been reorganized and cleaned up and aspects of interaction 
> have been partially reimplemented (like widgets) in a more mkiv-ish way (or 
> actually mkvi); widgets now have an updated inheritance model

Looks really nice. Do I have to do something different to activate MkVI 
syntax, or will that work in regular mkiv files as well?

> - the font related lua code has been cleaned up and reorganized as well and; 
> the cached data is different, the memory footprint is somewhat smaller, 
> processing can be a bit faster, font related parameters are better organized 
> in subtables in the font instance, etc
>
> - the generic font code (in luatex-fonts) has been stripped from context 
> related features so that it is easier to cook up mkiv specific extensions 
> without too much interference (or side effects) for the generic code
>
> - a couple of fixes (like discussed on this list the last few weeks) have 
> been applied

\setuppaersize[A5] appears to be working fine in MKIV. Can you backport 
the change to MkII also?

Aditya
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* Re: beta
  2011-03-25 19:23 ` beta Aditya Mahajan
@ 2011-03-25 19:41   ` Peter Münster
  2011-03-25 19:52   ` beta Hans Hagen
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From: Peter Münster @ 2011-03-25 19:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu> writes:

> \setuppaersize[A5] appears to be working fine in MKIV.

Nice! So you can close http://tracker.luatex.org/view.php?id=581

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* Re: beta
  2011-03-25 19:23 ` beta Aditya Mahajan
  2011-03-25 19:41   ` beta Peter Münster
@ 2011-03-25 19:52   ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-03-25 19:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 25-3-2011 8:23, Aditya Mahajan wrote:

>> - backend code has been reorganized and cleaned up and aspects of
>> interaction have been partially reimplemented (like widgets) in a more
>> mkiv-ish way (or actually mkvi); widgets now have an updated
>> inheritance model
>
> Looks really nice. Do I have to do something different to activate MkVI
> syntax, or will that work in regular mkiv files as well?

a file with suffix mkvi will be handled automatically and files that have

% ... macros=mkvi ...

on the first line too

> \setuppaersize[A5] appears to be working fine in MKIV. Can you backport
> the change to MkII also?

hm, needs checking

Hans

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* Re: beta (broken?)
  2011-03-25 18:58     ` Marco
@ 2011-03-25 19:56       ` Hans Hagen
  2011-03-25 20:16         ` Marco
  2011-03-25 21:08         ` Marco
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 36+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-03-25 19:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Marco

On 25-3-2011 7:58, Marco wrote:
> On 2011-03-25 Hans Hagen<pragma@wxs.nl>  wrote:
>
>> weird ...
>>
>>
>> in font-otp.lua there is in line 347:
>
> This line is in font-otf.lua. I added it there.
>
>>       local reload = not data or data.size ~= size or data.time ~= time
>>
>> can you add there
>>
>> print(data,data and data.size,data and data.time,size,time)
>>
>> and then remake the format and try again? I want to know what gets
>> reported there
>
> table: a6330d0   110400  1254938640      110400  1254938640

weird, what font is that?


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* Re: beta (broken?)
  2011-03-25 19:56       ` Hans Hagen
@ 2011-03-25 20:16         ` Marco
  2011-03-25 21:37           ` Hans Hagen
  2011-03-25 21:08         ` Marco
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From: Marco @ 2011-03-25 20:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ntg-context

On 2011-03-25 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:

> >> and then remake the format and try again? I want to know what gets
> >> reported there
> >
> > table: a6330d0   110400  1254938640      110400  1254938640
> 
> weird, what font is that?

How to obtain that information? These numbers tell me nothing.


Marco


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* Re: beta (broken?)
  2011-03-25 19:56       ` Hans Hagen
  2011-03-25 20:16         ` Marco
@ 2011-03-25 21:08         ` Marco
  2011-03-25 21:39           ` Hans Hagen
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From: Marco @ 2011-03-25 21:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ntg-context

On 2011-03-25 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:

No problem with luatex version beta-0.66.0-2011032521 (rev 4093). But
minimals still ship beta-0.65.0-2010121317.

I'm not sure if it's a bug in luatex 0.65 or context 2011.03.25.


Marco


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* Re: beta (broken?)
  2011-03-25 20:16         ` Marco
@ 2011-03-25 21:37           ` Hans Hagen
  2011-03-26 11:28             ` Marco
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-03-25 21:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Marco

On 25-3-2011 9:16, Marco wrote:
> On 2011-03-25 Hans Hagen<pragma@wxs.nl>  wrote:
>
>>>> and then remake the format and try again? I want to know what gets
>>>> reported there
>>>
>>> table: a6330d0   110400  1254938640      110400  1254938640
>>
>> weird, what font is that?
>
> How to obtain that information? These numbers tell me nothing.

you can print the table with table.print(data) or have a look in the 
cache and locate the troublesome file


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* Re: beta (broken?)
  2011-03-25 21:08         ` Marco
@ 2011-03-25 21:39           ` Hans Hagen
  2011-03-25 21:56             ` Mojca Miklavec
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-03-25 21:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Marco

On 25-3-2011 10:08, Marco wrote:
> On 2011-03-25 Hans Hagen<pragma@wxs.nl>  wrote:
>
> No problem with luatex version beta-0.66.0-2011032521 (rev 4093). But
> minimals still ship beta-0.65.0-2010121317.
>
> I'm not sure if it's a bug in luatex 0.65 or context 2011.03.25.

I have no clue either. Is there a reason why the minimals don't ship 0.66?

Hans


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* Re: beta (broken?)
  2011-03-25 21:39           ` Hans Hagen
@ 2011-03-25 21:56             ` Mojca Miklavec
  2011-03-25 22:01               ` Hans Hagen
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From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2011-03-25 21:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Hans Hagen, Marco

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 22:39, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> On 25-3-2011 10:08, Marco wrote:
>
>> No problem with luatex version beta-0.66.0-2011032521 (rev 4093). But
>> minimals still ship beta-0.65.0-2010121317.
>
> Is there a reason why the minimals don't ship 0.66?

Waiting for Taco to release it. I don't have a good feeling taking
some random snapshot from repository.

Mojca
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* Re: beta (broken?)
  2011-03-25 21:56             ` Mojca Miklavec
@ 2011-03-25 22:01               ` Hans Hagen
  2011-03-26  8:22                 ` Taco Hoekwater
  2011-03-26  9:09                 ` Mojca Miklavec
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 36+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-03-25 22:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Mojca Miklavec; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users, Marco

On 25-3-2011 10:56, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 22:39, Hans Hagen<pragma@wxs.nl>  wrote:
>> On 25-3-2011 10:08, Marco wrote:
>>
>>> No problem with luatex version beta-0.66.0-2011032521 (rev 4093). But
>>> minimals still ship beta-0.65.0-2010121317.
>>
>> Is there a reason why the minimals don't ship 0.66?
>
> Waiting for Taco to release it. I don't have a good feeling taking
> some random snapshot from repository.

I've been using it for quite a while now so 0.66 is quite ok,

Hans


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* Re: beta
  2011-03-25 17:30 beta Hans Hagen
  2011-03-25 18:06 ` beta (broken?) Marco
  2011-03-25 19:23 ` beta Aditya Mahajan
@ 2011-03-25 22:03 ` mathew
  2011-03-26  8:19   ` beta Taco Hoekwater
  2011-03-26  1:16 ` beta Li Yanrui (李延瑞)
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From: mathew @ 2011-03-25 22:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 12:30, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> - the font related lua code has been cleaned up and reorganized as well and;
> the cached data is different, the memory footprint is somewhat smaller,
> processing can be a bit faster, font related parameters are better organized
> in subtables in the font instance, etc

Well, I no longer get an error when ConTeXt tries to load the
GhostScript dingbats font:

mkiv lua stats  > loaded fonts - 34 files: stmary10.afm
lmmono12-regular.otf lmmono8-regular.otf lmmono9-regular.otf
lmroman12-bold.otf lmroman12-regular.otf lmroman7-bold.otf
lmroman7-regular.otf lmroman9-bold.otf lmroman9-regular.otf
lmsans12-regular.otf lmsans8-regular.otf lmsans9-regular.otf
eufb10.tfm eufb7.tfm eufm10.tfm eufm7.tfm msam10.tfm msam7.tfm
msbm10.tfm msbm7.tfm lmex10.tfm lmmi12.tfm lmmi7.tfm lmmi9.tfm
lmmib10.tfm lmmib7.tfm lmsy10.tfm lmsy7.tfm lmsy9.tfm rm-lmr12.tfm
rm-lmr7.tfm rm-lmr9.tfm d050000l.afm

^^^ there it is at the end! ^^^

I still don't get any dingbats in my PDF output, but it feels like
progress is being made...

\starttypescript [sans][dingbats][name]
\definefontsynonym [Sans][name:dingbatsnormal]
\stoptypescript
\definetypeface [dingbats][ss][sans][dingbats][default]
\starttext
Here's a dingbat: {\dingbats ✪ \char"272a}
\stoptext


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* Re: beta
  2011-03-25 17:30 beta Hans Hagen
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2011-03-25 22:03 ` beta mathew
@ 2011-03-26  1:16 ` Li Yanrui (李延瑞)
  2011-03-26 11:23   ` beta Florian Wobbe
  2011-03-26 11:42   ` beta Hans Hagen
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From: Li Yanrui (李延瑞) @ 2011-03-26  1:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
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2011/3/26 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>:
> Hi,
>
> I uploaded a new beta.
>

The protrusion does not work.

I have tested it with the example in
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Protrusion#MkIV

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* Re: beta
  2011-03-25 22:03 ` beta mathew
@ 2011-03-26  8:19   ` Taco Hoekwater
  2011-03-26 10:42     ` beta Hans Hagen
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From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2011-03-26  8:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 03/25/2011 11:03 PM, mathew wrote:
>
> I still don't get any dingbats in my PDF output, but it feels like
> progress is being made...

Please read this message:

http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20110322.165523.c82b23df.en.html

> \starttypescript [sans][dingbats][name]
> \definefontsynonym [Sans][name:dingbatsnormal]
> \stoptypescript
> \definetypeface [dingbats][ss][sans][dingbats][default]
> \starttext
> Here's a dingbat: {\dingbats ✪ \char"272a}
> \stoptext

As I wrote in that message, the ghostscript dingbats will not be in
the actual unicode locations because the Type1 font does not carry
enough information for the reencoding to work.

Best wishes,
Taco

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* Re: beta (broken?)
  2011-03-25 22:01               ` Hans Hagen
@ 2011-03-26  8:22                 ` Taco Hoekwater
  2011-03-26  9:09                 ` Mojca Miklavec
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From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2011-03-26  8:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Hans Hagen, Marco, Mojca Miklavec

On 03/25/2011 11:01 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 25-3-2011 10:56, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 22:39, Hans Hagen<pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
>>> On 25-3-2011 10:08, Marco wrote:
>>>
>>>> No problem with luatex version beta-0.66.0-2011032521 (rev 4093). But
>>>> minimals still ship beta-0.65.0-2010121317.
>>>
>>> Is there a reason why the minimals don't ship 0.66?
>>
>> Waiting for Taco to release it. I don't have a good feeling taking
>> some random snapshot from repository.
>
> I've been using it for quite a while now so 0.66 is quite ok,

There is no release yet because I am much too busy preparing metapost
for the Dante meeting next week. There will be a release very shortly
after that.

Best wishes,
Taco
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* Re: beta (broken?)
  2011-03-25 22:01               ` Hans Hagen
  2011-03-26  8:22                 ` Taco Hoekwater
@ 2011-03-26  9:09                 ` Mojca Miklavec
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From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2011-03-26  9:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Hans Hagen; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users, Marco

On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 23:01, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 25-3-2011 10:56, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>
>> Waiting for Taco to release it. I don't have a good feeling taking
>> some random snapshot from repository.
>
> I've been using it for quite a while now so 0.66 is quite ok,

I'm not trying to say that 0.66 is not ok, just that one can never be
sure which version to take from SVN, or one could compile a new
version every day or every few days (whenever Taco fixes some comments
in source code).

If the release is going to happen soon, I would really prefer to wait for that.

Mojca
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* Re: beta
  2011-03-26  8:19   ` beta Taco Hoekwater
@ 2011-03-26 10:42     ` Hans Hagen
  2011-03-26 22:00       ` beta mathew
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-03-26 10:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Taco Hoekwater

On 26-3-2011 9:19, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> On 03/25/2011 11:03 PM, mathew wrote:
>>
>> I still don't get any dingbats in my PDF output, but it feels like
>> progress is being made...
>
> Please read this message:
>
> http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20110322.165523.c82b23df.en.html
>
>> \starttypescript [sans][dingbats][name]
>> \definefontsynonym [Sans][name:dingbatsnormal]
>> \stoptypescript
>> \definetypeface [dingbats][ss][sans][dingbats][default]
>> \starttext
>> Here's a dingbat: {\dingbats ✪ \char"272a}
>> \stoptext
>
> As I wrote in that message, the ghostscript dingbats will not be in
> the actual unicode locations because the Type1 font does not carry
> enough information for the reencoding to work.

Indeed and I was somewhat puzzled by this topic coming up again.

Now, as the gs dingbats seem to have the same names as the official ones 
(some weird numbering scheme) i added a reencoding vector (if the gs 
files had been different I'd not done that). The next beta will provide

\starttext

% predefined: \definefontfeature[dingbats][goodies=dingbats,unicoding=yes]

Star: {\definedfont[d050000l*dingbats]✪ \char"272a}\par
Star: {\definedfont[d050000l:goodies=dingbats,unicoding=yes]✪ \char"272a}

\stoptext

It's up to Mathew to check each entry in dingbats.lfg ... (I've put it 
in the distribution but will remove it when it is incorrect).

Hans

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* Re: beta
  2011-03-26  1:16 ` beta Li Yanrui (李延瑞)
@ 2011-03-26 11:23   ` Florian Wobbe
  2011-03-26 11:42     ` beta Hans Hagen
  2011-03-26 11:42   ` beta Hans Hagen
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From: Florian Wobbe @ 2011-03-26 11:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> The protrusion does not work.

Confirmed.

Also I do get a huge number of overfull lines which was not the case with beta 2011.02.25 22:03. This is strange because there is plenty of room (about 75 characters per line). Unfortunately I was unsuccessful to reproduce this with a minimal example. I guess there are several triggering factors.

Best,
Florian

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* Re: beta (broken?)
  2011-03-25 21:37           ` Hans Hagen
@ 2011-03-26 11:28             ` Marco
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From: Marco @ 2011-03-26 11:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 2011-03-25 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:

> On 25-3-2011 9:16, Marco wrote:
> > On 2011-03-25 Hans Hagen<pragma@wxs.nl>  wrote:
> >
> >>>> and then remake the format and try again? I want to know what gets
> >>>> reported there
> >>>
> >>> table: a6330d0   110400  1254938640      110400  1254938640
> >>
> >> weird, what font is that?
> >
> > How to obtain that information? These numbers tell me nothing.
> 
> you can print the table with table.print(data) or have a look in the 
> cache and locate the troublesome file

I updated to 2011.03.26 11:35 and everything works fine, even with the default
beta-0.65.0-2010121317.


Marco


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* Re: beta
  2011-03-26  1:16 ` beta Li Yanrui (李延瑞)
  2011-03-26 11:23   ` beta Florian Wobbe
@ 2011-03-26 11:42   ` Hans Hagen
  2011-03-27 11:21     ` beta Florian Wobbe
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-03-26 11:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 26-3-2011 2:16, Li Yanrui (李延瑞) wrote:
> 2011/3/26 Hans Hagen<pragma@wxs.nl>:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I uploaded a new beta.
>>
>
> The protrusion does not work.
>
> I have tested it with the example in
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Protrusion#MkIV


fixed in next upload ... btw, in the current version there is no need to 
reset the bodyfont as loading is delayed till starttext anyway

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* Re: beta
  2011-03-26 11:23   ` beta Florian Wobbe
@ 2011-03-26 11:42     ` Hans Hagen
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On 26-3-2011 12:23, Florian Wobbe wrote:
>> The protrusion does not work.
>
> Confirmed.
>
> Also I do get a huge number of overfull lines which was not the case with beta 2011.02.25 22:03. This is strange because there is plenty of room (about 75 characters per line). Unfortunately I was unsuccessful to reproduce this with a minimal example. I guess there are several triggering factors.

well, if protrusion does not work, then indeed you get a different outcome


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* Re: beta
  2011-03-26 10:42     ` beta Hans Hagen
@ 2011-03-26 22:00       ` mathew
  2011-03-27 12:42         ` beta Hans Hagen
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From: mathew @ 2011-03-26 22:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 05:42, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> On 26-3-2011 9:19, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>> As I wrote in that message, the ghostscript dingbats will not be in
>> the actual unicode locations because the Type1 font does not carry
>> enough information for the reencoding to work.
>
> Indeed and I was somewhat puzzled by this topic coming up again.

There's a simple explanation: I didn't receive the previous on-list
replies. I just searched my spam folders and ConTeXt list folder, and
I still can't find them. Very mysterious.

> Now, as the gs dingbats seem to have the same names as the official ones
> (some weird numbering scheme) i added a reencoding vector (if the gs files
> had been different I'd not done that).

Taco writes:
>First, run this file:
>
>\usemodule[fnt-10]
>\starttext
>\ShowCompleteFont{name:dingbats}{10pt}{1}
>\stoptext

That gives me an error:

! LuaTeX error <main ctx instance>:35: attempt to index field
'iterators' (a nil value)
stack traceback:
	<main ctx instance>:35: in function 'show_all'
	<main ctx instance>:1: in main chunk.

\ShowCompleteFont ... \ctxlua { fonts.show_all() }
                                                   \stopcolumns \page \egroup
l.146 ...ompleteFont{name:dejavusansmono}{10pt}{1}

I'd really like to know how to get a dump of all the symbols in a font
with the codes to address them by, as in general I don't think we can
expect Hans to build indices for every dingbat font out there :-)

I actually had no idea that the glyphs in font files had font-specific
names. I thought they were just numbered according to some standard
encoding, and that it was a matter of translating from glyph name or
Unicode number to whatever encoding was used in the font file.


mathew
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* Re: beta
  2011-03-26 11:42   ` beta Hans Hagen
@ 2011-03-27 11:21     ` Florian Wobbe
  2011-03-27 12:31       ` beta Hans Hagen
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From: Florian Wobbe @ 2011-03-27 11:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Mar 26, 2011, at 12:42 , Hans Hagen wrote:

> On 26-3-2011 2:16, Li Yanrui (李延瑞) wrote:
>> 2011/3/26 Hans Hagen<pragma@wxs.nl>:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I uploaded a new beta.
>>> 
>> 
>> The protrusion does not work.
>> 
>> I have tested it with the example in
>> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Protrusion#MkIV
> 
> 
> fixed in next upload

Thanks. Is there a way to enable protrusion for figure captions?

Florian

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* Re: beta
  2011-03-27 11:21     ` beta Florian Wobbe
@ 2011-03-27 12:31       ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-03-27 12:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 27-3-2011 1:21, Florian Wobbe wrote:
>
> On Mar 26, 2011, at 12:42 , Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>> On 26-3-2011 2:16, Li Yanrui (李延瑞) wrote:
>>> 2011/3/26 Hans Hagen<pragma@wxs.nl>:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I uploaded a new beta.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The protrusion does not work.
>>>
>>> I have tested it with the example in
>>> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Protrusion#MkIV
>>
>>
>> fixed in next upload
>
> Thanks. Is there a way to enable protrusion for figure captions?

just set up the align for captions

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* Re: beta
  2011-03-26 22:00       ` beta mathew
@ 2011-03-27 12:42         ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-03-27 12:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 26-3-2011 11:00, mathew wrote:

> ! LuaTeX error<main ctx instance>:35: attempt to index field
> 'iterators' (a nil value)

will be fixed
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* Re: beta (broken?)
  2011-03-25 18:28 beta (broken?) Reviczky, Adam
@ 2011-03-25 18:56 ` Hans Hagen
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On 25-3-2011 7:28, Reviczky, Adam wrote:
> I'm getting this since today morning:

i uploaded a patch


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* beta (broken?)
@ 2011-03-25 18:28 Reviczky, Adam
  2011-03-25 18:56 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Reviczky, Adam @ 2011-03-25 18:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ntg-context

I'm getting this since today morning:

mtx-context     | run 1: luatex --fmt="/home/08/reviczky/local32/texlive/experimental/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/formats/cont-en" --lua="/home/08/reviczky/local32/texlive/experimental/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/5fe67e0bfe781ce0dde776fb1556f32e/formats/cont-en.lui" --backend="pdf" "./test.tex"
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.65.0-2010121316 
 \write18 enabled.
(test.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2011.03.25 18:03 MKIV  fmt: 2011.3.25  int: english/english

system          > cont-new.mkiv loaded
(/home/08/reviczky/local32/texlive/experimental/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/cont-new.mkiv
system          > beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.mkiv
)
system          > test.top loaded
(test.top)
fonts           > latin modern fonts are not preloaded
languages       > language en is active
{/home/08/reviczky/local32/texlive/experimental/tex/texmf-context/fonts/map/pdftex/context/mkiv-base.map}
fonts           > preloading latin modern fonts (second stage)
(/home/08/reviczky/local32/texlive/experimental/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-siz.mkiv) (/home/08/reviczky/local32/texlive/experimental/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/type-otf.mkiv){/home/08/reviczky/local32/texlive/experimental/tex/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-math.map}{/home/08/reviczky/local32/texlive/experimental/tex/texmf/fonts/map/dvips/lm/lm-rm.map}
fonts           > otf loading > loading: /home/08/reviczky/local32/texlive/experimental/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/lm/lmroman12-regular.otf (hash: lmroman12-regular)
fonts           > otf loading > font loaded okay
fonts           > otf loading > file size: 110400
fonts           > encoding > loading (extended) adobe glyph list
fatal error: this module is not for context
system          | total runtime: 0.878
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* Re: beta broken?
  2010-10-23 12:43   ` Taco Hoekwater
@ 2010-10-26 11:54     ` Oliver Buerschaper
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From: Oliver Buerschaper @ 2010-10-26 11:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> The latest mtxrun (on both pragma-ade and in minimals) does not contain
> any 'v' on line 8736, so something must have gone wrong in the local
> update process.

Yes, it turned out a syncronization issue. For some reason I got old stuff in the texmf-osx-intel/bin until two days ago when updating the minimals. Solved now.

Oliver
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* Re: beta broken?
  2010-10-23 12:33 ` Oliver Buerschaper
@ 2010-10-23 12:43   ` Taco Hoekwater
  2010-10-26 11:54     ` Oliver Buerschaper
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From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2010-10-23 12:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 10/23/2010 02:33 PM, Oliver Buerschaper wrote:
>> today's beta yields the following console output:
>>
>> ---
>> /usr/texbin/mtxrun:8736: attempt to concatenate local 'v' (a table value)
>> ---
>
> The exact problem persists on my machine (Mac OS 10.6.4) after updating the minimals to 2010.10.22 16:46 beta :-(
>
> Can anyone else reproduce this?

The latest mtxrun (on both pragma-ade and in minimals) does not contain
any 'v' on line 8736, so something must have gone wrong in the local
update process.

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* Re: beta broken?
  2010-10-21 15:38 beta broken? Oliver Buerschaper
  2010-10-21 15:43 ` Mojca Miklavec
@ 2010-10-23 12:33 ` Oliver Buerschaper
  2010-10-23 12:43   ` Taco Hoekwater
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> today's beta yields the following console output:
> 
> ---
> /usr/texbin/mtxrun:8736: attempt to concatenate local 'v' (a table value)
> ---

The exact problem persists on my machine (Mac OS 10.6.4) after updating the minimals to 2010.10.22 16:46 beta :-(

Can anyone else reproduce this?

Oliver
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* Re: beta broken?
  2010-10-21 15:43 ` Mojca Miklavec
@ 2010-10-21 17:06   ` Oliver Buerschaper
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> Do you want to say that you are trying to revive your "ConTeXt
> Minimals for Mac" project? Else mtxrun should probably not come from
> /usr/texbin.

I deny everything.

(Reusing a recent quote :-)

Oliver
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* Re: beta broken?
  2010-10-21 15:38 beta broken? Oliver Buerschaper
@ 2010-10-21 15:43 ` Mojca Miklavec
  2010-10-21 17:06   ` Oliver Buerschaper
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On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 17:38, Oliver Buerschaper wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> today's beta yields the following console output:
>
> ---
> /usr/texbin/mtxrun:8736: attempt to concatenate local 'v' (a table value)

Oliver,

Do you want to say that you are trying to revive your "ConTeXt
Minimals for Mac" project? Else mtxrun should probably not come from
/usr/texbin.

Mojca
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* beta broken?
@ 2010-10-21 15:38 Oliver Buerschaper
  2010-10-21 15:43 ` Mojca Miklavec
  2010-10-23 12:33 ` Oliver Buerschaper
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Dear all,

today's beta yields the following console output:

---
/usr/texbin/mtxrun:8736: attempt to concatenate local 'v' (a table value)
---

:-(

Best,
Oliver
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