* How to set oldstyle numbering globally?
@ 2011-04-11 9:00 Verhaag, G.C.H.M.
2011-04-11 9:09 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2011-04-11 9:12 ` Khaled Hosny
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From: Verhaag, G.C.H.M. @ 2011-04-11 9:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
Hi,
In my earlier MkIV minimal ConTeXt installation (dec.2010) I used the
following in my preamble to activate oldstyle numbering:
\usetypescript[schola]
\setupbodyfont[schola,8pt]
\definefontfeature [oldstyle] [default] [onum=yes]
\addff{oldstyle}
but this doesn't seem to work anymore in my recently installed minimal
ConTeXt installation (ConTeXt ver: 2011.03.30 11:21 MkIV fmt:
2011.3.30 int: english/english).
I use this installation with Debian 6.0 (Squeeze).
Any idea what's wrong?
Regards,
Gerard Verhaag
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2011-04-11 9:00 How to set oldstyle numbering globally? Verhaag, G.C.H.M.
@ 2011-04-11 9:09 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2011-04-12 9:37 ` Verhaag, G.C.H.M.
2011-04-11 9:12 ` Khaled Hosny
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2011-04-11 9:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 11.04.2011 um 11:00 schrieb Verhaag, G.C.H.M.:
> Hi,
>
> In my earlier MkIV minimal ConTeXt installation (dec.2010) I used the following in my preamble to activate oldstyle numbering:
>
> \usetypescript[schola]
> \setupbodyfont[schola,8pt]
>
> \definefontfeature [oldstyle] [default] [onum=yes]
> \addff{oldstyle}
>
> but this doesn't seem to work anymore in my recently installed minimal ConTeXt installation (ConTeXt ver: 2011.03.30 11:21 MkIV fmt: 2011.3.30 int: english/english).
>
> I use this installation with Debian 6.0 (Squeeze).
>
> Any idea what's wrong?
The following two methods do work for me.
1. Global change
\definefontfeature[default][default][onum=yes]
\setupbodyfont[schola,8pt]
\starttext
1234567890
\stoptext
2. Local change
\setupbodyfont[schola,8pt]
\definefontfeature[oldstyle][onum=yes]
\starttext
1234567890 {\addff{oldstyle}1234567890}
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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2011-04-11 9:09 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2011-04-12 9:37 ` Verhaag, G.C.H.M.
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From: Verhaag, G.C.H.M. @ 2011-04-12 9:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
On 04/11/2011 11:09 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Am 11.04.2011 um 11:00 schrieb Verhaag, G.C.H.M.:
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> In my earlier MkIV minimal ConTeXt installation (dec.2010) I used the following in my preamble to activate oldstyle numbering:
>>
>> \usetypescript[schola]
>> \setupbodyfont[schola,8pt]
>>
>> \definefontfeature [oldstyle] [default] [onum=yes]
>> \addff{oldstyle}
>>
>> but this doesn't seem to work anymore in my recently installed minimal ConTeXt installation (ConTeXt ver: 2011.03.30 11:21 MkIV fmt: 2011.3.30 int: english/english).
>>
>> I use this installation with Debian 6.0 (Squeeze).
>>
>> Any idea what's wrong?
>>
> The following two methods do work for me.
>
>
> 1. Global change
>
> \definefontfeature[default][default][onum=yes]
>
> \setupbodyfont[schola,8pt]
>
> \starttext
> 1234567890
> \stoptext
>
>
> 2. Local change
>
> \setupbodyfont[schola,8pt]
>
> \definefontfeature[oldstyle][onum=yes]
>
> \starttext
> 1234567890 {\addff{oldstyle}1234567890}
> \stoptext
>
>
> Wolfgang
>
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
> .....
>
Hi,
The suggested ways both work for me as well! So, I'm afraid that I don't
understand the definefontfeature command very well.
Perhaps I should read the chapter on fonts more thorougly! Thanks to all
contributers to this thread.
Regards,
Gerard Verhaag
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* Re: How to set oldstyle numbering globally?
2011-04-11 9:00 How to set oldstyle numbering globally? Verhaag, G.C.H.M.
2011-04-11 9:09 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2011-04-11 9:12 ` Khaled Hosny
2011-04-12 22:07 ` Pontus Lurcock
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From: Khaled Hosny @ 2011-04-11 9:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 11:00:08AM +0200, Verhaag, G.C.H.M. wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In my earlier MkIV minimal ConTeXt installation (dec.2010) I used
> the following in my preamble to activate oldstyle numbering:
>
> \usetypescript[schola]
> \setupbodyfont[schola,8pt]
>
> \definefontfeature [oldstyle] [default] [onum=yes]
> \addff{oldstyle}
A more correct way is:
\definefontfeature[default][default][onum=yes] % redefines default feature set
\usetypescript[schola]
\setupbodyfont[schola,8pt]
\starttext
12345678
\stoptext
(\addff is meant for temporally applying font features not the other way
around, but I think it should work this way too, so may be something
is broken)
Regards,
Khaled
--
Khaled Hosny
Egyptian
Arab
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2011-04-11 9:12 ` Khaled Hosny
@ 2011-04-12 22:07 ` Pontus Lurcock
2011-04-13 6:27 ` Taco Hoekwater
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From: Pontus Lurcock @ 2011-04-12 22:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Mon 11 Apr 2011, Khaled Hosny wrote:
> > In my earlier MkIV minimal ConTeXt installation (dec.2010) I used
> > the following in my preamble to activate oldstyle numbering:
> >
> > \usetypescript[schola]
> > \setupbodyfont[schola,8pt]
> >
> > \definefontfeature [oldstyle] [default] [onum=yes]
> > \addff{oldstyle}
>
> A more correct way is:
>
> \definefontfeature[default][default][onum=yes] % redefines default feature set
>
> \usetypescript[schola]
> \setupbodyfont[schola,8pt]
...
> (\addff is meant for temporally applying font features not the other way
> around, but I think it should work this way too, so may be something
> is broken)
\addff{oldstyle} works with my 2011.02.25 ConTeXt, so evidently it's
quite a recent change.
Pont
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2011-04-12 22:07 ` Pontus Lurcock
@ 2011-04-13 6:27 ` Taco Hoekwater
2011-04-13 7:57 ` Verhaag, G.C.H.M.
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From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2011-04-13 6:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 13 apr. 2011, at 00:07, Pontus Lurcock <pont@talvi.net> wrote:
> On Mon 11 Apr 2011, Khaled Hosny wrote:
>
> ...
>> (\addff is meant for temporally applying font features not the other way
>> around, but I think it should work this way too, so may be something
>> is broken)
>
> \addff{oldstyle} works with my 2011.02.25 ConTeXt, so evidently it's
> quite a recent change.
>
\addff is for adding some feature to an already selected font. It fails in the latest beta's because fonts are no longer preloaded immediately, but only after \starttext (which is a good thing)
Best wishes,
Taco
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2011-04-13 6:27 ` Taco Hoekwater
@ 2011-04-13 7:57 ` Verhaag, G.C.H.M.
2011-04-13 8:14 ` Pontus Lurcock
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From: Verhaag, G.C.H.M. @ 2011-04-13 7:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 04/13/2011 08:27 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>
>
> On 13 apr. 2011, at 00:07, Pontus Lurcock <pont@talvi.net
> <mailto:pont@talvi.net>> wrote:
>
>> On Mon 11 Apr 2011, Khaled Hosny wrote:
>>
>> ...
>>> (\addff is meant for temporally applying font features not the other way
>>> around, but I think it should work this way too, so may be something
>>> is broken)
>>
>> \addff{oldstyle} works with my 2011.02.25 ConTeXt, so evidently it's
>> quite a recent change.
>>
> \addff is for adding some feature to an already selected font. It
> fails in the latest beta's because fonts are no longer preloaded
> immediately, but only after \starttext (which is a good thing)
>
> Best wishes,
> Taco
> ....
>
Hi,
Taco, thanks for the explanation!
So, this makes the item called: "How can I get the “oldstyle numbers”
(text figures) in a document?" on wiki.contextgarden.net no longer
valid, right!
Changes are difficult to figure out, when you're not very good at the
details. Keeping the wiki up-to-date is a huge task and certainly not a
trivial thing!
Please don't misunderstand me. I don't want to criticise the way the
wiki is maintained. On the contrary, it's a great tool, and we users
very much depend on it.
However for getting the oldstyle numerals working again, I needed this
mailing list!
If I'm wrong please feel free to comment on all this. Thanks again!
Regards,
Gerard Verhaag
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@ 2011-04-13 8:14 ` Pontus Lurcock
2011-04-13 9:27 ` Verhaag, G.C.H.M.
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From: Pontus Lurcock @ 2011-04-13 8:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
On Wed 13 Apr 2011, Verhaag, G.C.H.M. wrote:
> So, this makes the item called: "How can I get the “oldstyle numbers”
> (text figures) in a document?" on wiki.contextgarden.net no longer
> valid, right!
As of now, valid again. (I was going to add something to the ‘Fonts in
LuaTeX’ page as well, but that page needs tidying up that I don't have
time to do at the moment.)
> Changes are difficult to figure out, when you're not very good at the
> details. Keeping the wiki up-to-date is a huge task and certainly not a
> trivial thing!
>
> Please don't misunderstand me. I don't want to criticise the way the
> wiki is maintained. On the contrary, it's a great tool, and we users
> very much depend on it.
I think the general principle is that if you get a useful answer to
your question, you should make sure that it is added (or linked) in
the wiki in the place you looked for it before asking the question. It
*is* a huge task (since ConTeXt is under continuous development),
which is why we all need to help.
Pont
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* Re: How to set oldstyle numbering globally?
2011-04-13 8:14 ` Pontus Lurcock
@ 2011-04-13 9:27 ` Verhaag, G.C.H.M.
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From: Verhaag, G.C.H.M. @ 2011-04-13 9:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
On 04/13/2011 10:14 AM, Pontus Lurcock wrote:
> On Wed 13 Apr 2011, Verhaag, G.C.H.M. wrote:
>
>
>> So, this makes the item called: "How can I get the “oldstyle numbers”
>> (text figures) in a document?" on wiki.contextgarden.net no longer
>> valid, right!
>>
> As of now, valid again. (I was going to add something to the ‘Fonts in
> LuaTeX’ page as well, but that page needs tidying up that I don't have
> time to do at the moment.)
>
>
>> Changes are difficult to figure out, when you're not very good at the
>> details. Keeping the wiki up-to-date is a huge task and certainly not a
>> trivial thing!
>>
>> Please don't misunderstand me. I don't want to criticise the way the
>> wiki is maintained. On the contrary, it's a great tool, and we users
>> very much depend on it.
>>
> I think the general principle is that if you get a useful answer to
> your question, you should make sure that it is added (or linked) in
> the wiki in the place you looked for it before asking the question. It
> *is* a huge task (since ConTeXt is under continuous development),
> which is why we all need to help.
>
> Pont
>
Hi,
Okay, thanks again for the tip!
Regards,
Gerard Verhaag
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