From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/68646 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_M=FCller?= Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: OT: What reference management software do you use? Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 23:17:42 +0200 Message-ID: <4DDACEF6.2060803@gmx.de> References: <1305980383.12054.18.camel@mattotaupa> <20110522215530.178269m0py25pfzm@webmail.unibas.ch> <20110522201434.GA20853@innsmouth.lan> <4DDAC76E.5060008@gmx.de> <5E91BCE6-9B40-4E7E-925D-513E33A833F1@uni-bonn.de> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1306185502 20330 80.91.229.12 (23 May 2011 21:18:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 21:18:22 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon May 23 23:18:18 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QOcW0-00073d-TD for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 May 2011 23:18:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E27D5CAD64; Mon, 23 May 2011 23:18:15 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id S07-ME63KQhu; Mon, 23 May 2011 23:18:15 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C933CAD60; Mon, 23 May 2011 23:18:13 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22810CAD60 for ; Mon, 23 May 2011 23:18:12 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 9KJ5DiECTZST for ; Mon, 23 May 2011 23:18:10 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter4-ams.mf.surf.net (filter4-ams.mf.surf.net [192.87.102.72]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B6F2CAD5F for ; Mon, 23 May 2011 23:18:10 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by filter4-ams.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with SMTP id p4NLI7hS019961 for ; Mon, 23 May 2011 23:18:10 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 23 May 2011 21:18:07 -0000 Original-Received: from 77-64-135-94.dynamic.primacom.net (EHLO [192.168.100.108]) [77.64.135.94] by mail.gmx.net (mp011) with SMTP; 23 May 2011 23:18:07 +0200 X-Authenticated: #11064435 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18aoaJdepEa/Sxa5FlqHjytCjBezfdNlWvGiLihwp Oj7qKS19VPp7yj User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 In-Reply-To: <5E91BCE6-9B40-4E7E-925D-513E33A833F1@uni-bonn.de> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=213.165.64.23; country=DE; latitude=51.0000; longitude=9.0000; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=51.0000,9.0000&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 03EL9i7IU - 0714f06f56a5 - 20110523 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 192.87.102.72 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:68646 Archived-At: Okay, then I should definitely take a look at JabRef. Anyhow, maybe I'm = naive here, but I don't see a reason why Zotero should support BibTeX = Strings. If I type the BibTeX file manually, sure. But Zotero reads the = (e.g.) Journal names from the corresponding websites, so there should be = no need to replace those with abbreviations. Is it because I don't = understand BibTeX strings? Does JabRef offers synchronisation (e.g. WebDAV) between different machines? Stefan On 23.05.2011 23:00, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: > > On May 23, 2011, at 10:45 PM, Stefan M=FCller wrote: > >> +1 for Zotero >> >> I tried Mendeley some time ago. It's standalone but sill quite similar t= o Zotero. "Browser-integration" works via a special bookmark. It also has a= n embedded pdf-viewer, which is very neat. Reason for changing to Zotereo w= ere some strange bibtex-export issues, where the bibtex file got messed up = and had to be readjusted manually. > > I find Zotero useless for my work with ConTeXt. You cannot have cross-ref= erences within your bibliographic items, and it is impossible to have prope= r markup in bibliographical items. For me, both are absolute killer argumen= ts; I cannot work with zotero. And the bibtex export sucks; important featu= res such as bibtex strings are not supported. So I would actually recommend= jabref if you need a cross-platform tool or bibdesk if you're using OS X e= xclusively. Regarding a system when you write your context files: I use Ema= cs, and I haven't seen anything more powerful or more convenient than refte= x (which also works with context, after a few tweaks in your configuration = file). > > Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________= ________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-cont= ext webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________= ________