* additional space with sidebar and narrower
@ 2019-03-26 10:16 Henning Hraban Ramm
2019-03-26 14:22 ` Otared Kavian
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2019-03-26 10:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Ahoi,
I’m trying to mark examples in a book with indent (\startnarrower) and a rule in the margin (\startsidebar).
Each of those works on its own as it should, but combined there’s an additional empty line before and after introduced that I can’t get rid of.
Any hints?
\starttext
\input tufte
\startsidebar
\startnarrower
\input knuth
\stopnarrower
\stopsidebar
\input tufte
\stoptext
Greetlings, Hraban
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* Re: additional space with sidebar and narrower
2019-03-26 10:16 additional space with sidebar and narrower Henning Hraban Ramm
@ 2019-03-26 14:22 ` Otared Kavian
2019-03-26 15:04 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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From: Otared Kavian @ 2019-03-26 14:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi,
If the issue is the size of the sidebar, I think if you add something like
\setupsidebar[topoffset=-5mm,bottomoffset=-5mm]
you can get rid of the spurious length of the sidebar. Indeed here 5mm should be replaced with what looks better with your setting of interlinespace.
Best regards: OK
> On 26 Mar 2019, at 11:16, Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net> wrote:
>
> Ahoi,
> I’m trying to mark examples in a book with indent (\startnarrower) and a rule in the margin (\startsidebar).
> Each of those works on its own as it should, but combined there’s an additional empty line before and after introduced that I can’t get rid of.
> Any hints?
>
> \starttext
>
> \input tufte
>
> \startsidebar
> \startnarrower
> \input knuth
> \stopnarrower
> \stopsidebar
>
> \input tufte
>
> \stoptext
>
>
> Greetlings, Hraban
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* Re: additional space with sidebar and narrower
2019-03-26 14:22 ` Otared Kavian
@ 2019-03-26 15:04 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2019-03-26 16:22 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2019-03-26 15:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Thank you, I found that myself (could have written).
But the problem is that there’s space introduced if I use both environments, but not if I use only one. And I didn’t find how I can avoid that.
Greetlings, Hraban
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Am 2019-03-26 um 15:22 schrieb Otared Kavian <otared@gmail.com>:
> Hi,
>
> If the issue is the size of the sidebar, I think if you add something like
>
> \setupsidebar[topoffset=-5mm,bottomoffset=-5mm]
>
> you can get rid of the spurious length of the sidebar. Indeed here 5mm should be replaced with what looks better with your setting of interlinespace.
>
> Best regards: OK
>
>> On 26 Mar 2019, at 11:16, Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net> wrote:
>>
>> Ahoi,
>> I’m trying to mark examples in a book with indent (\startnarrower) and a rule in the margin (\startsidebar).
>> Each of those works on its own as it should, but combined there’s an additional empty line before and after introduced that I can’t get rid of.
>> Any hints?
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> \input tufte
>>
>> \startsidebar
>> \startnarrower
>> \input knuth
>> \stopnarrower
>> \stopsidebar
>>
>> \input tufte
>>
>> \stoptext
>>
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* Re: additional space with sidebar and narrower
2019-03-26 15:04 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
@ 2019-03-26 16:22 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2019-03-26 23:06 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2019-03-26 16:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users, Henning Hraban Ramm
Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 26.03.19 um 16:04:
> Thank you, I found that myself (could have written).
>
> But the problem is that there’s space introduced if I use both environments, but not if I use only one. And I didn’t find how I can avoid that.
Change the order of both environment and put sidebar in the narrower block.
The reason for the extra lien is that \startsidebar begins a new
paragraph but \startnarrower end the lest paragraph which results in a
single empty line.
Wolfgang
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* Re: additional space with sidebar and narrower
2019-03-26 16:22 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2019-03-26 23:06 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2019-04-07 18:44 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2019-03-26 23:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 2019-03-26 um 17:22 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster <wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com>:
> Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 26.03.19 um 16:04:
>> Thank you, I found that myself (could have written).
>>
>> But the problem is that there’s space introduced if I use both environments, but not if I use only one. And I didn’t find how I can avoid that.
> Change the order of both environment and put sidebar in the narrower block.
>
> The reason for the extra line is that \startsidebar begins a new paragraph but \startnarrower end the lest paragraph which results in a single empty line.
Thank you, that works in my MWE, but not in my real life book. (I was sure I tested that approach already...) I’ll investigate further.
Greetlings, Hraban
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* Re: additional space with sidebar and narrower
2019-03-26 23:06 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
@ 2019-04-07 18:44 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2019-04-07 19:32 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2019-04-07 18:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 2019-03-27 um 00:06 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net>:
> Am 2019-03-26 um 17:22 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster <wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com>:
>
>> Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 26.03.19 um 16:04:
>>> Thank you, I found that myself (could have written).
>>>
>>> But the problem is that there’s space introduced if I use both environments, but not if I use only one. And I didn’t find how I can avoid that.
>> Change the order of both environment and put sidebar in the narrower block.
>>
>> The reason for the extra line is that \startsidebar begins a new paragraph but \startnarrower end the lest paragraph which results in a single empty line.
>
> Thank you, that works in my MWE, but not in my real life book. (I was sure I tested that approach already...) I’ll investigate further.
I finally found out what’s the problem:
\starttext
\input tufte
\startnarrower
\startsidebar
\startparagraph
\input knuth
\stopparagraph
\stopsidebar
\stopnarrower
\input tufte
\stoptext
As soon as I use \start/stopparagraph within narrower and sidebar, there’s additional space introduced. How can I avoid that?
Greetlings, Hraban
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* Re: additional space with sidebar and narrower
2019-04-07 18:44 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
@ 2019-04-07 19:32 ` Hans Hagen
2019-04-08 5:59 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2019-04-07 19:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users, Henning Hraban Ramm
On 4/7/2019 8:44 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> Am 2019-03-27 um 00:06 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net>:
>
>> Am 2019-03-26 um 17:22 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster <wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 26.03.19 um 16:04:
>>>> Thank you, I found that myself (could have written).
>>>>
>>>> But the problem is that there’s space introduced if I use both environments, but not if I use only one. And I didn’t find how I can avoid that.
>>> Change the order of both environment and put sidebar in the narrower block.
>>>
>>> The reason for the extra line is that \startsidebar begins a new paragraph but \startnarrower end the lest paragraph which results in a single empty line.
>>
>> Thank you, that works in my MWE, but not in my real life book. (I was sure I tested that approach already...) I’ll investigate further.
>
> I finally found out what’s the problem:
>
> \starttext
>
> \input tufte
>
> \startnarrower
> \startsidebar
> \startparagraph
> \input knuth
> \stopparagraph
> \stopsidebar
> \stopnarrower
>
> \input tufte
>
> \stoptext
>
> As soon as I use \start/stopparagraph within narrower and sidebar, there’s additional space introduced. How can I avoid that?
swap 'm
\startnarrower
\startparagraph
\startsidebar
\input knuth
\stopsidebar
\stopparagraph
\stopnarrower
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* Re: additional space with sidebar and narrower
2019-04-07 19:32 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2019-04-08 5:59 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2019-04-08 5:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 2019-04-07 um 21:32 schrieb Hans Hagen <j.hagen@xs4all.nl>:
> On 4/7/2019 8:44 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
>> Am 2019-03-27 um 00:06 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net>:
>>> Am 2019-03-26 um 17:22 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster <wolfgang.schuster.lists@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Henning Hraban Ramm schrieb am 26.03.19 um 16:04:
>>>>> Thank you, I found that myself (could have written).
>>>>>
>>>>> But the problem is that there’s space introduced if I use both environments, but not if I use only one. And I didn’t find how I can avoid that.
>>>> Change the order of both environment and put sidebar in the narrower block.
>>>>
>>>> The reason for the extra line is that \startsidebar begins a new paragraph but \startnarrower end the lest paragraph which results in a single empty line.
>>>
>>> Thank you, that works in my MWE, but not in my real life book. (I was sure I tested that approach already...) I’ll investigate further.
>> I finally found out what’s the problem:
>> \starttext
>> \input tufte
>> \startnarrower
>> \startsidebar
>> \startparagraph
>> \input knuth
>> \stopparagraph
>> \stopsidebar
>> \stopnarrower
>> \input tufte
>> \stoptext
>> As soon as I use \start/stopparagraph within narrower and sidebar, there’s additional space introduced. How can I avoid that?
> swap 'm
>
> \startnarrower
> \startparagraph
> \startsidebar
> \input knuth
> \stopsidebar
> \stopparagraph
> \stopnarrower
Thank you, but I need the sidebar over several paragraphs. (And I wrapped narrower and sidebar in its own startstop.)
Greetlings, Hraban
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