From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/68869 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: DocBook in ConTeXt - any new ideas? Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 22:20:40 +0200 Message-ID: <4DE7F098.2040408@wxs.nl> References: <4DE77C02.50002@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1307046076 22388 80.91.229.12 (2 Jun 2011 20:21:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 20:21:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Bruce To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Jun 02 22:21:11 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QSEOE-0002xk-9k for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 22:21:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2192DCAD72; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 22:21:09 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id u7dH99pD5A1z; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 22:21:06 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57DC2CAD6D; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 22:21:06 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C95BCAD6D for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 22:21:04 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id y+PI4QaDh09M for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 22:20:53 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter5-til.mf.surf.net (filter5-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.221]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75C93CAD65 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 22:20:53 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from smtp.ziggozakelijk.nl (D57D1DA2.static.ziggozakelijk.nl [213.125.29.162]) by filter5-til.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id p52KKqv4001064 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2011 22:20:52 +0200 X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=loggedin (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=10.100.1.100; Original-Received: from [10.100.1.100] (unverified [10.100.1.100]) by pragma-net.nl (SurgeMail 5.2a) with ESMTP id 1246-1713362 for multiple; Thu, 02 Jun 2011 22:20:48 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 ThunderBrowse/3.3.5 In-Reply-To: X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-9 X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=213.125.29.162; country=NL; region=11; city=Den Haag; latitude=52.0833; longitude=4.3000; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.0833,4.3000&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0xEP8kQKl - 2455ff7ce543 - 20110602 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.221 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:68869 Archived-At: On 2-6-2011 7:17, Bruce wrote: > Hans Hagen wxs.nl> writes: > >> >> On 2-6-2011 12:53, Piotr Kopszak wrote: >>> Many thanks for your reply! I would certainly go this way having a >>> couple of months or a year perspective. Besides I'm eager to try >>> finally the new way mkIV deals with xml. But realistically, preparing >>> and testing a mapping of even a subset of DocBook is a question of at >>> least a couple of personmonths if not worse. Sadly, I'm not in a >>> position to that now. >> >> Months? I never had a reason for doing a docbook mapping but a couple of >> hours should get you a start. Th eonly reason why I'd look into docbook >> is if I'd need in in a project. (I'd happily spent a few well paid >> months on it then.) >> >> You probably don't need all of docbook, so you could start with some >> simple tests. The mkii docbook stuff you mentioned definitely is doing a >> small subset. > > I never understand why you would try to typeset XML directly in ConTeXt? > Why not just convert the DocBook to ConTeXt source using XSLT (or if the > docs are simpler, use markdown with pandoc and you can easily get ConTeXt > and HTML from the same source)? (1) because xslt mappings can become pretty unreadable (2) because you still need to make a file (and define environments) (3) because it then create another depencency and intermediate processing stage (4) because sometimes it makes sense to let the typesetting engine make decisions (5) because in mkiv one can apply lua functions to xml content (6) ... anyhow, the whole idea of xml is that it can be processed by whatever machinery (and using xslt and/or xsl-fo for everything kin dof contradicts that) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________