* combining character (unicode 0364)
@ 2011-06-14 19:11 Daniel Schopper
2011-06-14 20:12 ` Mojca Miklavec
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From: Daniel Schopper @ 2011-06-14 19:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Dear list,
a question concerning combining characters: I try to make a letter out
of a small elevated „e“ (unicode 0364, combining latin small letter e)
with „a“, „o“ and „u“ using Junicode with Wolfgang Schuster’s
typescript. In Fontforge the mark positioning lookup looks good to me,
but ConTeXt somehow seems to ignore the anchors in the font. The
„mark“-feature is enabled in the typescript.
Maybe someone can give me a hint how to get this working? Thanks in advance!
Daniel
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* Re: combining character (unicode 0364)
2011-06-14 19:11 combining character (unicode 0364) Daniel Schopper
@ 2011-06-14 20:12 ` Mojca Miklavec
2011-06-14 22:38 ` Daniel Schopper
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From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2011-06-14 20:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 21:11, Daniel Schopper wrote:
> Dear list,
> a question concerning combining characters: I try to make a letter out of a
> small elevated „e“ (unicode 0364, combining latin small letter e) with „a“,
> „o“ and „u“ using Junicode with Wolfgang Schuster’s typescript. In Fontforge
> the mark positioning lookup looks good to me, but ConTeXt somehow seems to
> ignore the anchors in the font. The „mark“-feature is enabled in the
> typescript.
> Maybe someone can give me a hint how to get this working? Thanks in advance!
You need at least
mode=node,mark=yes
features enabled.
Mojca
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* Re: combining character (unicode 0364)
2011-06-14 20:12 ` Mojca Miklavec
@ 2011-06-14 22:38 ` Daniel Schopper
2011-06-15 6:20 ` Mojca Miklavec
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From: Daniel Schopper @ 2011-06-14 22:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi Mojca,
thanks for the answer!
By now I’ve enabled:
\definefontfeature[default][%
script=latn,
mode=node,
mark=yes,
mkmk=yes,
liga=yes,
ccmp=yes,
calt=yes,
locl=yes
]
but still the combining character doesn’t get attached to the position
indicated by the anchor… so I guess that has to be some issue with the
font… (By the way, I’m using mkiv beta, 2011.04.13)
Thanks anyway!
Daniel
Am 14.06.11 22:12, schrieb Mojca Miklavec:
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 21:11, Daniel Schopper wrote:
>> Dear list,
>> a question concerning combining characters: I try to make a letter out of a
>> small elevated „e“ (unicode 0364, combining latin small letter e) with „a“,
>> „o“ and „u“ using Junicode with Wolfgang Schuster’s typescript. In Fontforge
>> the mark positioning lookup looks good to me, but ConTeXt somehow seems to
>> ignore the anchors in the font. The „mark“-feature is enabled in the
>> typescript.
>> Maybe someone can give me a hint how to get this working? Thanks in advance!
>
> You need at least
> mode=node,mark=yes
> features enabled.
>
> Mojca
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* Re: combining character (unicode 0364)
2011-06-14 22:38 ` Daniel Schopper
@ 2011-06-15 6:20 ` Mojca Miklavec
2011-06-15 6:51 ` Daniel Schopper
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From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2011-06-15 6:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 00:38, Daniel Schopper wrote:
> Hi Mojca,
> indicated by the anchor… so I guess that has to be some issue with the font…
You can try if XeTeX positions the accent properly if you want to test
the font (XeTeX is at least a bit more reliable to do it properly and
it has the feature enabled by default).
\font\a=YourFont.otf
\a your-sequence-with-combining-characters
> (By the way, I’m using mkiv beta, 2011.04.13)
I suspect that the version you are using might be too old anyway.
Back in May the feature conditionally worked for me in ConTeXt MKIV.
Whenever there were some kind of boxes included, alignment was
destroyed.
Mojca
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* Re: combining character (unicode 0364)
2011-06-15 6:20 ` Mojca Miklavec
@ 2011-06-15 6:51 ` Daniel Schopper
2011-06-15 7:58 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Daniel Schopper @ 2011-06-15 6:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi,
ok, I checked the font in indesign (well…) and there the positioning
worked as expected. I’ll update ConTeXt, hopefully that helps…
Thanks for the hints!
Am 15.06.11 08:20, schrieb Mojca Miklavec:
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 00:38, Daniel Schopper wrote:
>> Hi Mojca,
>> indicated by the anchor… so I guess that has to be some issue with the font…
>
> You can try if XeTeX positions the accent properly if you want to test
> the font (XeTeX is at least a bit more reliable to do it properly and
> it has the feature enabled by default).
>
> \font\a=YourFont.otf
> \a your-sequence-with-combining-characters
>
>
>> (By the way, I’m using mkiv beta, 2011.04.13)
>
> I suspect that the version you are using might be too old anyway.
>
> Back in May the feature conditionally worked for me in ConTeXt MKIV.
> Whenever there were some kind of boxes included, alignment was
> destroyed.
>
> Mojca
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* Re: combining character (unicode 0364)
2011-06-15 6:51 ` Daniel Schopper
@ 2011-06-15 7:58 ` Hans Hagen
2011-06-16 8:18 ` Daniel Schopper
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-06-15 7:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 15-6-2011 8:51, Daniel Schopper wrote:
> Hi,
> ok, I checked the font in indesign (well…) and there the positioning
> worked as expected. I’ll update ConTeXt, hopefully that helps…
anyway, if it fails, in order to check it we need a complete example + font
Hans
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* Re: combining character (unicode 0364)
2011-06-15 7:58 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2011-06-16 8:18 ` Daniel Schopper
2011-06-16 8:35 ` Hans Hagen
2011-06-16 10:54 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Daniel Schopper @ 2011-06-16 8:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Hans Hagen; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users
> anyway, if it fails, in order to check it we need a complete example
+ font
of course, sorry! here it is the minimal example and the typescript
(which is based on the one by Wolfgang Schuster). please find the font
attached.
Thanks!
\usetypescript[djajunicode]
\setupbodyfont[djajunicode,18pt]
\starttext
combined characters: aͤoͤuͤ\par
precomposed letters:
\stoptext
% DJA Junicode typescript, based on Wolfgang Schuster’s type-junicode.tex
\definefontfeature[default][%
script=latn,
mode=node,
mark=yes,
mkmk=yes,
liga=yes,
% dlig=yes,
% hlig=yes,
ccmp=yes,
calt=yes,
locl=yes
]
\starttypescript [serif] [djajunicode]
\setups[font:fallback:serif]
\definefontsynonym [Serif] [DJA-Junicode-Regular]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [DJA-Junicode-Italic]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [DJA-Junicode-Bold]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [DJA-Junicode-BoldItalic]
[features=default]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [serif] [djajunicode]
\definefontsynonym [DJA-Junicode-Regular]
[name:djajunicoderegular] [features=default]
\definefontsynonym [DJA-Junicode-Italic]
[name:djajunicodeitalic] [features=default]
\definefontsynonym [DJA-Junicode-Bold] [name:djajunicodebold]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [DJA-Junicode-BoldItalic]
[name:djajunicodeBoldItalic] [features=default]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [djajunicode]
\definetypeface [djajunicode] [rm] [serif] [djajunicode] [default]
\definetypeface [djajunicode] [mm] [math] [xits] [default]
\quittypescriptscanning
\stoptypescript
\endinput
Am 15.06.11 09:58, schrieb Hans Hagen:
> On 15-6-2011 8:51, Daniel Schopper wrote:
>> Hi,
>> ok, I checked the font in indesign (well…) and there the positioning
>> worked as expected. I’ll update ConTeXt, hopefully that helps…
>
> anyway, if it fails, in order to check it we need a complete example
+ font
>
> Hans
>
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* Re: combining character (unicode 0364)
2011-06-16 8:18 ` Daniel Schopper
@ 2011-06-16 8:35 ` Hans Hagen
2011-06-16 9:49 ` Daniel Schopper
2011-06-16 10:54 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-06-16 8:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Daniel Schopper; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users
On 16-6-2011 10:18, Daniel Schopper wrote:
> \usetypescript[djajunicode]
> \setupbodyfont[djajunicode,18pt]
>
> \starttext
> combined characters: aͤoͤuͤ\par
> precomposed letters:
> \stoptext
>
>
> % DJA Junicode typescript, based on Wolfgang Schuster’s type-junicode.tex
> \definefontfeature[default][%
> script=latn,
> mode=node,
> mark=yes,
> mkmk=yes,
> liga=yes,
> % dlig=yes,
> % hlig=yes,
> ccmp=yes,
> calt=yes,
> locl=yes
> ]
> \starttypescript [serif] [djajunicode]
> \setups[font:fallback:serif]
> \definefontsynonym [Serif] [DJA-Junicode-Regular]
> [features=default]
> \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [DJA-Junicode-Italic]
> [features=default]
> \definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [DJA-Junicode-Bold]
> [features=default]
> \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [DJA-Junicode-BoldItalic]
> [features=default]
> \stoptypescript
>
> \starttypescript [serif] [djajunicode]
> \definefontsynonym [DJA-Junicode-Regular]
> [name:djajunicoderegular] [features=default]
> \definefontsynonym [DJA-Junicode-Italic]
> [name:djajunicodeitalic] [features=default]
> \definefontsynonym [DJA-Junicode-Bold] [name:djajunicodebold]
> [features=default]
> \definefontsynonym [DJA-Junicode-BoldItalic]
> [name:djajunicodeBoldItalic] [features=default]
> \stoptypescript
>
> \starttypescript [djajunicode]
> \definetypeface [djajunicode] [rm] [serif] [djajunicode] [default]
> \definetypeface [djajunicode] [mm] [math] [xits] [default]
> \quittypescriptscanning
> \stoptypescript
>
> \endinput
with the junicode downloaded from ctan, and using:
\definefontfeature
[default]
[script=latn,
mode=node,
mark=yes,
mkmk=yes,
liga=yes,
% dlig=yes,
% hlig=yes,
ccmp=yes,
calt=yes,
locl=yes]
\starttypescript [serif] [djajunicode]
\setups[font:fallback:serif]
\definefontsynonym [Serif] [Junicode-Regular]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [Junicode-Italic]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [Junicode-Bold]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [Junicode-BoldItalic]
[features=default]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [serif] [djajunicode]
\definefontsynonym [Junicode-Regular] [file:junicoderegular]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [Junicode-Italic] [file:junicodeitalic]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [Junicode-Bold] [file:junicodebold]
[features=default]
\definefontsynonym [Junicode-BoldItalic] [file:junicodeBoldItalic]
[features=default]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [djajunicode]
\definetypeface [djajunicode] [rm] [serif] [djajunicode] [default]
\definetypeface [djajunicode] [mm] [math] [xits] [default]
\quittypescriptscanning
\stoptypescript
\setupbodyfont[djajunicode,18pt]
\starttext
combined characters: aͤoͤuͤ\par
precomposed letters:
\stoptext
I get two times aou with e's on top. I also get a message about an
unsupported coverage contextsub which I will look into.
Hans
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* Re: combining character (unicode 0364)
2011-06-16 8:35 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2011-06-16 9:49 ` Daniel Schopper
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From: Daniel Schopper @ 2011-06-16 9:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Ok, I updated again and this works now beautifully in the current beta
2011.06.16. 00:34. Thanks a lot!
Daniel
Am 16.06.11 10:35, schrieb Hans Hagen:
> On 16-6-2011 10:18, Daniel Schopper wrote:
>> \usetypescript[djajunicode]
>> \setupbodyfont[djajunicode,18pt]
>>
>> \starttext
>> combined characters: aͤoͤuͤ\par
>> precomposed letters:
>> \stoptext
>>
>>
>> % DJA Junicode typescript, based on Wolfgang Schuster’s type-junicode.tex
>> \definefontfeature[default][%
>> script=latn,
>> mode=node,
>> mark=yes,
>> mkmk=yes,
>> liga=yes,
>> % dlig=yes,
>> % hlig=yes,
>> ccmp=yes,
>> calt=yes,
>> locl=yes
>> ]
>> \starttypescript [serif] [djajunicode]
>> \setups[font:fallback:serif]
>> \definefontsynonym [Serif] [DJA-Junicode-Regular]
>> [features=default]
>> \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [DJA-Junicode-Italic]
>> [features=default]
>> \definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [DJA-Junicode-Bold]
>> [features=default]
>> \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [DJA-Junicode-BoldItalic]
>> [features=default]
>> \stoptypescript
>>
>> \starttypescript [serif] [djajunicode]
>> \definefontsynonym [DJA-Junicode-Regular]
>> [name:djajunicoderegular] [features=default]
>> \definefontsynonym [DJA-Junicode-Italic]
>> [name:djajunicodeitalic] [features=default]
>> \definefontsynonym [DJA-Junicode-Bold] [name:djajunicodebold]
>> [features=default]
>> \definefontsynonym [DJA-Junicode-BoldItalic]
>> [name:djajunicodeBoldItalic] [features=default]
>> \stoptypescript
>>
>> \starttypescript [djajunicode]
>> \definetypeface [djajunicode] [rm] [serif] [djajunicode] [default]
>> \definetypeface [djajunicode] [mm] [math] [xits] [default]
>> \quittypescriptscanning
>> \stoptypescript
>>
>> \endinput
>
> with the junicode downloaded from ctan, and using:
>
> \definefontfeature
> [default]
> [script=latn,
> mode=node,
> mark=yes,
> mkmk=yes,
> liga=yes,
> % dlig=yes,
> % hlig=yes,
> ccmp=yes,
> calt=yes,
> locl=yes]
>
> \starttypescript [serif] [djajunicode]
> \setups[font:fallback:serif]
> \definefontsynonym [Serif] [Junicode-Regular] [features=default]
> \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [Junicode-Italic] [features=default]
> \definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [Junicode-Bold] [features=default]
> \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [Junicode-BoldItalic]
> [features=default]
> \stoptypescript
>
> \starttypescript [serif] [djajunicode]
> \definefontsynonym [Junicode-Regular] [file:junicoderegular]
> [features=default]
> \definefontsynonym [Junicode-Italic] [file:junicodeitalic]
> [features=default]
> \definefontsynonym [Junicode-Bold] [file:junicodebold] [features=default]
> \definefontsynonym [Junicode-BoldItalic] [file:junicodeBoldItalic]
> [features=default]
> \stoptypescript
>
> \starttypescript [djajunicode]
> \definetypeface [djajunicode] [rm] [serif] [djajunicode] [default]
> \definetypeface [djajunicode] [mm] [math] [xits] [default]
> \quittypescriptscanning
> \stoptypescript
>
> \setupbodyfont[djajunicode,18pt]
>
> \starttext
> combined characters: aͤoͤuͤ\par
> precomposed letters:
> \stoptext
>
> I get two times aou with e's on top. I also get a message about an
> unsupported coverage contextsub which I will look into.
>
> Hans
>
>
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* Re: combining character (unicode 0364)
2011-06-16 8:18 ` Daniel Schopper
2011-06-16 8:35 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2011-06-16 10:54 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-06-16 10:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Daniel Schopper; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users
On 16-6-2011 10:18, Daniel Schopper wrote:
>
> > anyway, if it fails, in order to check it we need a complete example
> + font
> of course, sorry! here it is the minimal example and the typescript
> (which is based on the one by Wolfgang Schuster). please find the font
> attached.
the next beta will also do
f\utfchar{"E0} and jͤ
beware: in that font the alternative f (narrower) is internally named
falternative while it's better to use f.alternative because in that case
proper tounicode entries can be constructed and copy/paste in pdf can be
supported (a font buglet)
Hans
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