From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/69465 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: \setscript[hanzi] and kana (Wolfgang Schuster) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 23:30:51 +0200 Message-ID: <4E03B08B.5040703@wxs.nl> References: <4E038490.8050100@googlemail.com> <41168AF9-820F-4D40-A777-705F93D221A1@googlemail.com> <4E038FC6.7000401@wxs.nl> <52231FE1-BAE9-48E9-83A1-AB06BBB63498@googlemail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1308864680 5031 80.91.229.12 (23 Jun 2011 21:31:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 21:31:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users To: Wolfgang Schuster Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Jun 23 23:31:16 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QZrUZ-0002Og-LN for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 23:31:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id F06CACAE52; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 23:31:14 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id fSshFbUJ+FPd; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 23:31:12 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AB61CAE49; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 23:31:12 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95FA5CAE49 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 23:31:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id NuDGGXtcSTTp for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 23:31:08 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter2-til.mf.surf.net (filter2-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.218]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DA0ECAE39 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 23:31:08 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from smtp.ziggozakelijk.nl (D57D1DA2.static.ziggozakelijk.nl [213.125.29.162]) by filter2-til.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id p5NLV7c6008042 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 23:31:07 +0200 X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=loggedin (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=10.100.1.101; Original-Received: from [10.100.1.101] (unverified [10.100.1.101]) by pragma-net.nl (SurgeMail 5.2a) with ESMTP id 5536-1713362 for multiple; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 23:31:03 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110616 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.11 ThunderBrowse/3.3.5 In-Reply-To: <52231FE1-BAE9-48E9-83A1-AB06BBB63498@googlemail.com> X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-9 X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=213.125.29.162; country=NL; region=11; city=Den Haag; latitude=52.0833; longitude=4.3000; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.0833,4.3000&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0bEXxv7gx - 394a04d53a9f - 20110623 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.218 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:69465 Archived-At: On 23-6-2011 11:23, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > > Am 23.06.2011 um 21:11 schrieb Hans Hagen: > >> On 23-6-2011 8:52, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: >>> >>> Am 23.06.2011 um 20:23 schrieb S Barmeier: >>> >>>> I guess vertical typesetting is a little more involved, but as far as = horizontal >>>> typesetting goes, most of the spacing is coded into the font already (= monospacing). >>> >>> ConTeXt MkIV doesn=92t support vertical writing but with a little >>> bit of TeX knowledge it=92s possible to add it, the result is not >>> perfect [1] (there is no space between the characters) but it >>> shows it can be done. >> >> just use columnsets with 1em width columns > > This is no option when quotation marks are used and other characters > which can=92t be broken at the end of line. Another advantage of LuaTeX= =92s > vertical mode is that you can use \underbar and other commands which > aren=92t possible with columnsets. if used at all; if I'm right vertical does not mean that all such = properties 'rotate' > The output in my example would be nicer when the width (or height?) > of each character had been 1em (or more). It depends on what one wants. Using the vertical (rotated) variant in = it's simple (traditional) way proably can work at some point (but it = needs to be properly integrated in the page builder then and we probably = should forget about figure placement and display environments = (starttyping etc). If one just wants vertical stacking (with quad*quad characters) then = columnsets are a nice way in between as then we can still use figures). Anyway, a proper model is needed, not some ad-hoc hackery. 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