ConTeXt Command Differences between Tex Live and Minimals

ConTeXt Command Differences between Tex Live and Minimals

[Raymond LeClair]

In general, where do I look to resolve differences between ConTeXt commands which work using the Tex Live distribution, but which do not work using the Minimals distribution.

I am thinking of switching to the Minimals distribution since I can keep it more current, and it appears to resolve a problem hyphenating URLs which contain multiple, adjacent hyphens.

Specifically, the command "\inothermargin" is not recognized when using the Minimals distribution. While I would appreciate a solution to this issue, I would very much appreciate knowing where to look to resolve the issue myself. I have consulted the most recent documentation, and searched the ConTeXt wiki.

Tex Live Distribution reports:

MTXrun | current version: 2010.05.24 13:05
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.60.2-2010071217 (TeX Live 2010) (rev 3736)

Minimals Distribution reports:

mtx-context     | current version: 2011.05.18 18:04
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.70.1-2011051923 (rev 4277)

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Re: ConTeXt Command Differences between Tex Live and Minimals

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 16:24, Raymond LeClair wrote:
> In general, where do I look to resolve differences between ConTeXt commands which work using the Tex Live distribution, but which do not work using the Minimals distribution.

I'm afraid that the only option is to compare the sources
(tex/gereric/context/base).

(It is not very common that newer version doesn't support an older
command though, while the reverse is often true.)

> Tex Live Distribution reports:
>
> MTXrun | current version: 2010.05.24 13:05
> This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.60.2-2010071217 (TeX Live 2010) (rev 3736)

You can install TeX Live 2011 if you want to use a more recent version
of ConTeXt.
    http://www.tug.org/texlive/pretest.html

Mojca
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Re: ConTeXt Command Differences between Tex Live and Minimals

[Raymond LeClair]

Perfect, I can compare sources...here's what I find:

== Tex Live Distribution ==

MTXrun | current version: 2010.05.24 13:05
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.60.2-2010071217 (TeX Live 2010) (rev 3736)

# cd /usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base
# grep inothermargin *
page-mar.mkii:\def\inothermargin{\inother}

== Minimals Distribution ==

mtx-context     | current version: 2011.05.18 18:04
This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.70.1-2011051923 (rev 4277)

# cd /opt/context-current/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base
# grep inothermargin *
page-mar.mkii:\def\inothermargin{\inother}

So it appears that the command "\inothermargin" is defined in both distributions. However...

\starttext
\inothermargin{donald}\input knuth
\stoptext

works in Tex Live but not in Minimals.

On Jun 30, 2011, at 10:46 AM, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 16:24, Raymond LeClair wrote:
>> In general, where do I look to resolve differences between ConTeXt commands which work using the Tex Live distribution, but which do not work using the Minimals distribution.
> 
> I'm afraid that the only option is to compare the sources
> (tex/gereric/context/base).
> 
> (It is not very common that newer version doesn't support an older
> command though, while the reverse is often true.)
> 
>> Tex Live Distribution reports:
>> 
>> MTXrun | current version: 2010.05.24 13:05
>> This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.60.2-2010071217 (TeX Live 2010) (rev 3736)
> 
> You can install TeX Live 2011 if you want to use a more recent version
> of ConTeXt.
>    http://www.tug.org/texlive/pretest.html
> 
> Mojca
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Re: ConTeXt Command Differences between Tex Live and Minimals

[Mojca Miklavec]

On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 17:44, Raymond LeClair wrote:
> Perfect, I can compare sources...here's what I find:
>
> == Tex Live Distribution ==
>
> MTXrun | current version: 2010.05.24 13:05
> This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.60.2-2010071217 (TeX Live 2010) (rev 3736)
>
> # cd /usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base
> # grep inothermargin *
> page-mar.mkii:\def\inothermargin{\inother}
>
> == Minimals Distribution ==
>
> mtx-context     | current version: 2011.05.18 18:04
> This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.70.1-2011051923 (rev 4277)
>
> # cd /opt/context-current/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base
> # grep inothermargin *
> page-mar.mkii:\def\inothermargin{\inother}
>
> So it appears that the command "\inothermargin" is defined in both distributions. However...
>
> \starttext
> \inothermargin{donald}\input knuth
> \stoptext
>
> works in Tex Live but not in Minimals.

Since you seem to be using MKIV (LuaTeX), you have to ignore entries
with *.mkii files. Only *.tex (if any left at all), *.lua and *.mkiv
are relevant for MKIV. This gives you

page-mar.mkiv:\def\inothermargin{\inother}
page-mar.mkiv:%D \inothermargin{\TestLine{yellow} {x}} test test test \par
page-mar.mkiv:% \input tufte \inothermargin{test} \input tufte

However the file page-mar.mkiv starts with:
    \endinput % obsolete, also commented code in anch-pgr.mkiv

You need to ask Hans about the reason.

Mojca
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Re: ConTeXt Command Differences between Tex Live and Minimals

[Hans Hagen]

On 30-6-2011 5:56, Mojca Miklavec wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 17:44, Raymond LeClair wrote:
>> Perfect, I can compare sources...here's what I find:
>>
>> == Tex Live Distribution ==
>>
>> MTXrun | current version: 2010.05.24 13:05
>> This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.60.2-2010071217 (TeX Live 2010) (rev 3736)
>>
>> # cd /usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base
>> # grep inothermargin *
>> page-mar.mkii:\def\inothermargin{\inother}
>>
>> == Minimals Distribution ==
>>
>> mtx-context     | current version: 2011.05.18 18:04
>> This is LuaTeX, Version beta-0.70.1-2011051923 (rev 4277)
>>
>> # cd /opt/context-current/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base
>> # grep inothermargin *
>> page-mar.mkii:\def\inothermargin{\inother}
>>
>> So it appears that the command "\inothermargin" is defined in both distributions. However...
>>
>> \starttext
>> \inothermargin{donald}\input knuth
>> \stoptext
>>
>> works in Tex Live but not in Minimals.
>
> Since you seem to be using MKIV (LuaTeX), you have to ignore entries
> with *.mkii files. Only *.tex (if any left at all), *.lua and *.mkiv
> are relevant for MKIV. This gives you
>
> page-mar.mkiv:\def\inothermargin{\inother}
> page-mar.mkiv:%D \inothermargin{\TestLine{yellow} {x}} test test test \par
> page-mar.mkiv:% \input tufte \inothermargin{test} \input tufte
>
> However the file page-mar.mkiv starts with:
>      \endinput % obsolete, also commented code in anch-pgr.mkiv
>
> You need to ask Hans about the reason.

because all that stuff is reimplemented in typo-mar.mkiv

\inmargin{test}test
\inother {test}test



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