From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/70220 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Thomas A. Schmitz" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: footnotes: is this a bug? Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 08:03:30 +0200 Message-ID: <4E2912B2.7020501@uni-bonn.de> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1311314635 20569 80.91.229.12 (22 Jul 2011 06:03:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 06:03:55 +0000 (UTC) To: "'mailing list for ConTeXt users'" Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Jul 22 08:03:51 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qk8py-00025q-G3 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 08:03:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A148CAE4E; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 08:03:48 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id ldYVWQUbBajt; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 08:03:46 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7B25CAE61; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 08:03:45 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E33CAE61 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 08:03:44 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id acoW4MjMTzIY for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 08:03:33 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter4-til.mf.surf.net (filter4-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.220]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13D26CAE4E for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 08:03:33 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from uni-bonn.de (mail.uni-bonn.de [131.220.15.113]) by filter4-til.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id p6M63UjU032106 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 08:03:31 +0200 Original-Received: from [87.178.35.223] (account tschmit1@uni-bonn.de HELO [192.168.0.18]) by fe2.uni-bonn.de (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.12) with ESMTPSA id 66278023 for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Fri, 22 Jul 2011 08:03:30 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.18) Gecko/20110617 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.11 X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=131.220.15.113; country=DE; region=07; city=Bonn; latitude=50.7333; longitude=7.1000; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=50.7333,7.1000&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 05FaS3upJ - e7f5bf699d57 - 20110722 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.216 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:70220 Archived-At: Hi all, this is something that has made me wonder: am I doing something wrong here, or is this a bug with footnote placement? Run the attached example, look at the last 2 pages, 5 and 6. On p. 5, the footnotes run off the page area. On p. 6, why is there so much space between text area and footnote area. The reason for this somewhat exotic set-up: our publisher wanted the footnotes of the last page of every chapter to start right after the text, not at the bottom of the page. In the end, I told them I couldn't do it, and they were fine with it. But I still think it should be possible; I've looked into a number of books, and it seems a common layout in the humanities. Maybe someone has a bright idea? (Wolfgang, you answered to this problem 2 weeks ago and suggested having "aftersection={\setupnote[footnote][location=high]}" in \setuphead, but this triggers the same problems). So maybe a bug? All best Thomas \showframe \starttext \dorecurse{21}{Imagine trying to live in a world dominated by dihydrogen oxide, a compound that has no taste or smell and is so viable in its properties that it is generally benign but at other times swiftly lethal. Depending on its state, it can scald you or freeze you. In the presence of certain organic molecules it can form carbonic acids so nasty that they can strip the leaves from trees and eat the faces off statuary. In bulk, when agitated, it can strike with a fury that no human edifice could withstand. Even for those who have learned to live with it, it is often murderous substance.\footnote{In bulk, when agitated, it can strike with a fury that no human edifice could withstand. Even for those who have learned to live with it, it is often murderous substance. We call it water. We call it water. We call it water.}} \setupnote[footnote][location=high]Imagine trying to live in a world dominated by dihydrogen oxide, a compound that has no taste or smell and is so viable in its properties that it is generally benign but at other times swiftly lethal. Depending on its state, it can scald you or freeze you. In the presence of certain organic molecules it can form carbonic acids so nasty that they can strip the leaves from trees and eat the faces off statuary. In bulk, when agitated, it can strike with a fury that no human edifice could withstand. Even for those who have learned to live with it, it is often murderous substance.\footnote{In bulk, when agitated, it can strike with a fury that no human edifice could withstand. Even for those who have learned to live with it, it is often murderous substance. We call it water. We call it water. We call it water.} \stoptext ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________