metapost question (bug?)

metapost question (bug?)

[Alan Braslau]

Hello,

I have a question for metapost specialists:

I am looking for some sort of effect, built upon a zig-zag line.
The first graphic in the minimal example below is as I would expect.
The second graphic seems to be drawn without the point at (0,0).
(Ignore the asymmetry at the end of the path in the 2nd, this
is to be expected in this minimal example.)

Is the result correct or is this a bug?

Alan



\starttext

\startTEXpage
\startMPcode
        u := 1mm ;

        path p[] ;
        p0 := ((0,0)--(1,0)) rotated 45 scaled 20u ;
        pickup pensquare scaled 10u rotated 45 ;
        draw p0 withcolor blue ;
        pickup pensquare yscaled 2u xscaled 5u rotated 45 ;
        draw p0 withcolor yellow ;
        pickup pencircle scaled .1u ;
        draw p0 ;
\stopMPcode
\stopTEXpage

\startTEXpage
\startMPcode
        p1 := ((0,0)--(sqrt(2),0)) rotated -30 scaled 20u
                shifted point infinity of p0 ;
        p2 := p0--p1 ;

        pickup pensquare scaled 10u rotated 45 ;
        draw p2 withcolor blue ;
        pickup pensquare yscaled 2u xscaled 5u rotated 45 ;
        draw p2 withcolor yellow ;
        pickup pencircle scaled .1u ;
        draw p2 ;
\stopMPcode
\stopTEXpage

\stoptext

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Re: metapost question (bug?)

[luigi scarso]

On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Alan Braslau <alan.braslau@cea.fr> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have a question for metapost specialists:
>
> I am looking for some sort of effect, built upon a zig-zag line.
> The first graphic in the minimal example below is as I would expect.
> The second graphic seems to be drawn without the point at (0,0).
> (Ignore the asymmetry at the end of the path in the 2nd, this
> is to be expected in this minimal example.)
>
> Is the result correct or is this a bug?
>
> Alan
>
>
>
> \starttext
>
> \startTEXpage
> \startMPcode
>        u := 1mm ;
>
>        path p[] ;
>        p0 := ((0,0)--(1,0)) rotated 45 scaled 20u ;
>        pickup pensquare scaled 10u rotated 45 ;
>        draw p0 withcolor blue ;
>        pickup pensquare yscaled 2u xscaled 5u rotated 45 ;
>        draw p0 withcolor yellow ;
>        pickup pencircle scaled .1u ;
>        draw p0 ;
> \stopMPcode
> \stopTEXpage
>
> \startTEXpage
> \startMPcode
>        p1 := ((0,0)--(sqrt(2),0)) rotated -30 scaled 20u
>                shifted point infinity of p0 ;
>        p2 := p0--p1 ;
>
>        pickup pensquare scaled 10u rotated 45 ;
>        draw p2 withcolor blue ;
>        pickup pensquare yscaled 2u xscaled 5u rotated 45 ;
>        draw p2 withcolor yellow ;
>        pickup pencircle scaled .1u ;
>        draw p2 ;
> \stopMPcode
> \stopTEXpage
>
> \stoptext
You are shifting by a certain amount : what is the net effect of
shifted point infinity of p0 ?

-- 
luigi
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Re: metapost question (bug?)

[Peter Rolf]

Am 21.07.2011 16:53, schrieb luigi scarso:
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Alan Braslau <alan.braslau@cea.fr> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have a question for metapost specialists:
>>
>> I am looking for some sort of effect, built upon a zig-zag line.
>> The first graphic in the minimal example below is as I would expect.
>> The second graphic seems to be drawn without the point at (0,0).
>> (Ignore the asymmetry at the end of the path in the 2nd, this
>> is to be expected in this minimal example.)
>>
>> Is the result correct or is this a bug?
>>
>> Alan
>>
>>
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> \startTEXpage
>> \startMPcode
>>        u := 1mm ;
>>
>>        path p[] ;
>>        p0 := ((0,0)--(1,0)) rotated 45 scaled 20u ;
>>        pickup pensquare scaled 10u rotated 45 ;
>>        draw p0 withcolor blue ;
>>        pickup pensquare yscaled 2u xscaled 5u rotated 45 ;
>>        draw p0 withcolor yellow ;
>>        pickup pencircle scaled .1u ;
>>        draw p0 ;
>> \stopMPcode
>> \stopTEXpage
>>
>> \startTEXpage
>> \startMPcode
>>        p1 := ((0,0)--(sqrt(2),0)) rotated -30 scaled 20u
>>                shifted point infinity of p0 ;
>>        p2 := p0--p1 ;
>>
use

p2 := p0 & p1;

the reason for the 'unexpected' output is, that point 1 and 2 of the
path p2 are equal. keep in mind that drawing with an asymmetrical pen
has its own (complex) rules.


>>        pickup pensquare scaled 10u rotated 45 ;
>>        draw p2 withcolor blue ;
>>        pickup pensquare yscaled 2u xscaled 5u rotated 45 ;
>>        draw p2 withcolor yellow ;
>>        pickup pencircle scaled .1u ;
>>        draw p2 ;
>> \stopMPcode
>> \stopTEXpage
>>
>> \stoptext
> You are shifting by a certain amount : what is the net effect of
> shifted point infinity of p0 ?
> 
afaik simply the last point of p0.
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Re: metapost question (bug?)

[Alan Braslau]

On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 05:39:48PM +0200, Peter Rolf wrote:
> use
> 
> p2 := p0 & p1;
> 
> the reason for the 'unexpected' output is, that point 1 and 2 of the
> path p2 are equal. keep in mind that drawing with an asymmetrical pen
> has its own (complex) rules.

Thank you -- I forgot about the path operator &

(Funny thing, though, that the problem shows up with point 0. I would also think that having two consecutive identical points, although poor style, should not cause problems as it does.)

And yes, the use of an asymmetrical pen is indeed the whole point of this figure -- I am using metapost to achieve very easily an effect, conceptually very simple, that a colleague has not been able to produce using Adobe Illustrator.

Thank you again for helping out.

Alan
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Re: metapost question (bug?)

[Peter Rolf]

Am 21.07.2011 23:21, schrieb Alan Braslau:
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 05:39:48PM +0200, Peter Rolf wrote:
>> use
>>
>> p2 := p0 & p1;
>>
>> the reason for the 'unexpected' output is, that point 1 and 2 of the
>> path p2 are equal. keep in mind that drawing with an asymmetrical pen
>> has its own (complex) rules.
> 
> Thank you -- I forgot about the path operator &
>
same here (i had to browse the metapost manual for the operator) :-)

> (Funny thing, though, that the problem shows up with point 0. I would also think that having two consecutive identical points, although poor style, should not cause problems as it does.)
>
i guess it has to do with the fact, that 'drawing' with non circular
pens always results in a *filled* path. metapost is calculating new
points for the shape, instead of just storing the given path points and
the pen size (like in a normal pencircle draw). and if a filled path is
intersecting with itself, funny things can happen. well, most times not
that funny (because unwanted).

probably not the best example (not drawn, no special pen), but it gives
a first impression of what is going on.

\startTEXpage
\startMPcode
        path p[];
        p0 := unitcircle scaled 10cm;
        p1 := p0 scaled .5;

        p2 := p0 -- reverse(p1) -- cycle;
        fill p2;
\stopMPcode
\stopTEXpage

depending on their direction (clockwise or counter clockwise) and
location (intersection or not) such path 'cycles' are cleared or filled.
with this trick you are able to produce punches as in the glyphs of "O"
or "e".

if you like and have the time you can debug your example (simply add a
loop that draws all points and labels them). you will then see the
difference between a drawn (pencircle) and a 'drawn' (non circular pen)
path. ;-)

> And yes, the use of an asymmetrical pen is indeed the whole point of this figure -- I am using metapost to achieve very easily an effect, conceptually very simple, that a colleague has not been able to produce using Adobe Illustrator.
> 
> Thank you again for helping out.
>
my pleasure.

Peter

> Alan
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