From: "Stefan Müller" <warrence.stm@gmx.de>
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Re: Some APA- and language related bibliography problems
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 15:41:13 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E4D1679.2010104@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4E4D0497.2030302@gmx.de>
In an off-list conversation I was told that there is an "apa-de" style.
This is documented in [d] and was not in [e] so I updated that page.
That solves issue (1) and partly issue (2): There is now ", Herausgeber"
instead of "(Hrsg.)" what I want (and I think the APA manual wants it,
too). Also, there is "Seiten" instead of "S.".
No effect on (3), (4). And there are two more issues I overlooked.
(5) The APA manual [a] shows that it should read "Title of book (pp.
xxx-xxx)." instead of "Title of book, pages xxx-xxx." (the second
reference in the example). This seems to be wrong in apa and apa-de.
(6) Please consider
\mainlanguage[de]
\setupbibtex[database={mysample}]
\setuppublications[alternative=apa-de]
\starttext
Wieder ein Zitat \cite[hh2010b]
\placepublications[criterium=text]
\stoptext
In the output there is now "MAPS, 40:67-71". But following again the
APA manual [f] it should be "MAPS, 40, 67-71" and the journal number
"40" typeset italic. In the presence of an issue-number x it should
read "MAPS, 40(x), 67-71", again only journal name and number italic,
not the issue number.
[d]
http://dl.contextgarden.net/modules/bibmod-doc/doc/context/bib/bibmod-doc.pdf
[e] http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Reference/en/setuppublications
[f] APA Publication manual, 6th edition, 2010. Page 199, section 7.01
"Periodicals".
Thanks in advance for considering this!
Stefan
On 18.08.2011 14:24, Stefan Müller wrote:
> Hi list,
>
> I have some problems with a bibliography. Please consider the following
> example
>
> \mainlanguage[de]
> \setupbibtex[database={mysample}]
> \setuppublications[alternative=apa]
>
> \starttext
> Ein Zitat \cite[HagenHoekwater2011].
> Noch ein Zitat \cite[SchrammKopiez2009].
> \placepublications[criterium=text]
> \stoptext
>
> which results in
>
> "Ein Zitat (Hagen and Hoekwater, 2011). Noch ein Zitat (Schramm and
> Kopiez, 2009).
> Hagen, H. and Hoekwater, T. (2011). Fonts in ConTEXt. Boekplan, NL.
> Schramm, H. and Kopiez, R. (2009). Die alltägliche nutzung von musik. In
> Bruhn, H., Kopiez, R. and Lehmann, A. C., editors, Musikpsychologie. Das
> neue Handbuch, pages 253-265. Reinbek bei Hamburg: Rowohlt Taschenbuch
> Verlag."
>
> There are some language specific issues here.
>
> (1) There is written "and" in the two references between the author's
> and between the editor's names, despite the fact that I changed the
> mainlanguage to German. I learned that I can change this to e.g. "und" with
>
> \setuppublicationlist[lastnamesep={\ und \ }, firstnamesep={\ und \ }]
>
> but is the current mechanism for translation able to automate the
> translation here too? Please note that I'm fine with the above solution,
> I'm just curious. [Similar issue with "andtext" in \setupcite]
>
> (2) Similar to the above: How can I change the other inserted
> words/text, the APA manual [a] requires something different here:
> "(Eds.)" or "(Hrsg.)" (without the comma, latter German) instead of ",
> editors"
> "pp." or "S." (German) instead of "pages"
> Do I have to modify ConTeXt bib style files here? I would very much
> refrain from that... Those inserted words/texts are in general not used
> in German. IIRC these were hardcoded in English inside the style files,
> is this still the case?
>
> (3) There was already a thread about this [b]. The current mechanism
> messes with the capitalization of the titles "Die alltägliche Nutzung
> von Musik". In English, this is mostly an aesthetic concern, in German
> and other languages this is definitely a bug and makes the reference
> list unusable.
> Maybe I missed something here: Is it possible to change this without
> modifying the ConTeXt core files? If not I request that the function
> Thomas pointed out in [b] is removed. If I want uncapitalized titles I
> can just use them uncapitalized in th bib or bbl file.
> IIRC putting the complete title in extra {}'s in the bib would solve
> this but is considered very very bad.
>
> (4) In the APA-style, the entries in the reference list are supposed to
> be double-spaced [c]. How can I achieve this? The command
> \setupinterlinespace[big] inside \start...\stoptext does the job for the
> normal text, but not for the referencelist.
>
> [a] APA Publication manual, 6th edition, 2010. Page 202, section 7.02
> "Books, Reference Books, and Book Chapters".
> [b] http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2011/059359.html
> [c] APA Publication manual, 6th edition, 2010. Page 37, section 2.11
> "References".
>
> I strongly hope that I can get answers to all of my points above, and
> any hints and suggestions are appreciated.
>
> Unfortunately I'm very unfamiliar with ConTeXt's mechanisms concerning
> the reference list and I don't know where and how to fix these issues,
> otherwise I would try to post patches instead...
>
> Kind regards,
> Stefan Müller.
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