Some APA- and language related bibliography problems

Some APA- and language related bibliography problems

[Stefan Müller]

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Hi list,

I have some problems with a bibliography.  Please consider the following 
example

   \mainlanguage[de]
   \setupbibtex[database={mysample}]
   \setuppublications[alternative=apa]

   \starttext
   Ein Zitat \cite[HagenHoekwater2011].
   Noch ein Zitat \cite[SchrammKopiez2009].
   \placepublications[criterium=text]
   \stoptext

which results in

"Ein Zitat (Hagen and Hoekwater, 2011). Noch ein Zitat (Schramm and 
Kopiez, 2009).
Hagen, H. and Hoekwater, T. (2011). Fonts in ConTEXt. Boekplan, NL.
Schramm, H. and Kopiez, R. (2009). Die alltägliche nutzung von musik. In 
Bruhn, H., Kopiez, R. and Lehmann, A. C., editors, Musikpsychologie. Das 
neue Handbuch, pages 253-265. Reinbek bei Hamburg: Rowohlt Taschenbuch 
Verlag."

There are some language specific issues here.

(1) There is written "and" in the two references between the author's 
and between the editor's names, despite the fact that I changed the 
mainlanguage to German.  I learned that I can change this to e.g. "und" with

   \setuppublicationlist[lastnamesep={\ und \ }, firstnamesep={\ und \ }]

but is the current mechanism for translation able to automate the 
translation here too?  Please note that I'm fine with the above 
solution, I'm just curious.  [Similar issue with "andtext" in \setupcite]

(2) Similar to the above: How can I change the other inserted 
words/text, the APA manual [a] requires something different here:
   "(Eds.)" or "(Hrsg.)" (without the comma, latter German) instead of 
", editors"
   "pp." or "S." (German) instead of "pages"
Do I have to modify ConTeXt bib style files here?  I would very much 
refrain from that...  Those inserted words/texts are in general not used 
in German.  IIRC these were hardcoded in English inside the style files, 
is this still the case?

(3) There was already a thread about this [b]. The current mechanism 
messes with the capitalization of the titles "Die alltägliche Nutzung 
von Musik".  In English, this is mostly an aesthetic concern, in German 
and other languages this is definitely a bug and makes the reference 
list unusable.
Maybe I missed something here: Is it possible to change this without 
modifying the ConTeXt core files?  If not I request that the function 
Thomas pointed out in [b] is removed.  If I want uncapitalized titles I 
can just use them uncapitalized in th bib or bbl file.
IIRC putting the complete title in extra {}'s in the bib would solve 
this but is considered very very bad.

(4) In the APA-style, the entries in the reference list are supposed to 
be double-spaced [c].  How can I achieve this?  The command 
\setupinterlinespace[big] inside \start...\stoptext does the job for the 
normal text, but not for the referencelist.

[a] APA Publication manual, 6th edition, 2010. Page 202, section 7.02 
"Books, Reference Books, and Book Chapters".
[b] http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2011/059359.html
[c] APA Publication manual, 6th edition, 2010. Page 37, section 2.11 
"References".

I strongly hope that I can get answers to all of my points above, and 
any hints and suggestions are appreciated.

Unfortunately I'm very unfamiliar with ConTeXt's mechanisms concerning 
the reference list and I don't know where and how to fix these issues, 
otherwise I would try to post patches instead...

Kind regards,
Stefan Müller.

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@STRING{hh = {Hans Hagen}}

@ELECTRONIC{hh2010,
  author = hh,
  year = {2010},
  title = {Metafun. \CONTEXT\ mkiv},
  url = {http://www.pragma-ade.nl/general/manuals/metafun-s.pdf},
}

@ARTICLE{hh2010a,
  author = hh,
  title = {The Font Name Mess},
  journal = {MAPS},
  year = {2010},
  volume = {40},
  pages = {2-8},
  keywords = {context},
}

@ARTICLE{hh2010b,
  author = hh,
  title = {Grouping in Hybrid Environments},
  journal = {MAPS},
  year = {2010},
  volume = {40},
  pages = {67-71},
  keywords = {context},
}

@BOOK{Eijkhout1991,
  title = {\TeX\ by Topic. A \TeX nician's Reference},
  publisher = {Addison-Wesley},
  year = {1991},
  author = {Victor Eijkhout},
  address = {London},
  keywords = {general},
}

@BOOK{HagenHoekwater2011,
  title = {Fonts in \ConTeXt},
  publisher = {Boekplan, NL},
  year = {2011},
  author = {Hans Hagen and Taco Hoekwater},
  isbn = {978-94-90688-03-5},
}

@INCOLLECTION{SchrammKopiez2009,
  author = {Holger Schramm and Reinhard Kopiez},
  title = {Die alltägliche Nutzung von Musik},
  booktitle = {Musikpsychologie. Das neue Handbuch},
  editor = {Herbert Bruhn and Reinhard Kopiez and Andreas C. Lehmann},
  publisher = {Rowohlt Taschenbuch Verlag},
  address = {Reinbek bei Hamburg},
  pages = {253-265},
  year = {2009},
}

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Re: Some APA- and language related bibliography problems

[Stefan Müller]

In an off-list conversation I was told that there is an "apa-de" style. 
  This is documented in [d] and was not in [e] so I updated that page. 
That solves issue (1) and partly issue (2): There is now ", Herausgeber" 
instead of "(Hrsg.)" what I want (and I think the APA manual wants it, 
too).  Also, there is "Seiten" instead of "S.".

No effect on (3), (4).  And there are two more issues I overlooked.

(5) The APA manual [a] shows that it should read "Title of book (pp. 
xxx-xxx)." instead of "Title of book, pages xxx-xxx." (the second 
reference in the example).  This seems to be wrong in apa and apa-de.

(6) Please consider

   \mainlanguage[de]
   \setupbibtex[database={mysample}]
   \setuppublications[alternative=apa-de]

   \starttext
   Wieder ein Zitat \cite[hh2010b]
   \placepublications[criterium=text]
   \stoptext

In the output there is now "MAPS, 40:67-71".  But following again the 
APA manual [f] it should be "MAPS, 40, 67-71" and the journal number 
"40" typeset italic.  In the presence of an issue-number x it should 
read "MAPS, 40(x), 67-71", again only journal name and number italic, 
not the issue number.

[d] 
http://dl.contextgarden.net/modules/bibmod-doc/doc/context/bib/bibmod-doc.pdf
[e] http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Reference/en/setuppublications
[f] APA Publication manual, 6th edition, 2010. Page 199, section 7.01 
"Periodicals".

Thanks in advance for considering this!
Stefan


On 18.08.2011 14:24, Stefan Müller wrote:
> Hi list,
>
> I have some problems with a bibliography. Please consider the following
> example
>
> \mainlanguage[de]
> \setupbibtex[database={mysample}]
> \setuppublications[alternative=apa]
>
> \starttext
> Ein Zitat \cite[HagenHoekwater2011].
> Noch ein Zitat \cite[SchrammKopiez2009].
> \placepublications[criterium=text]
> \stoptext
>
> which results in
>
> "Ein Zitat (Hagen and Hoekwater, 2011). Noch ein Zitat (Schramm and
> Kopiez, 2009).
> Hagen, H. and Hoekwater, T. (2011). Fonts in ConTEXt. Boekplan, NL.
> Schramm, H. and Kopiez, R. (2009). Die alltägliche nutzung von musik. In
> Bruhn, H., Kopiez, R. and Lehmann, A. C., editors, Musikpsychologie. Das
> neue Handbuch, pages 253-265. Reinbek bei Hamburg: Rowohlt Taschenbuch
> Verlag."
>
> There are some language specific issues here.
>
> (1) There is written "and" in the two references between the author's
> and between the editor's names, despite the fact that I changed the
> mainlanguage to German. I learned that I can change this to e.g. "und" with
>
> \setuppublicationlist[lastnamesep={\ und \ }, firstnamesep={\ und \ }]
>
> but is the current mechanism for translation able to automate the
> translation here too? Please note that I'm fine with the above solution,
> I'm just curious. [Similar issue with "andtext" in \setupcite]
>
> (2) Similar to the above: How can I change the other inserted
> words/text, the APA manual [a] requires something different here:
> "(Eds.)" or "(Hrsg.)" (without the comma, latter German) instead of ",
> editors"
> "pp." or "S." (German) instead of "pages"
> Do I have to modify ConTeXt bib style files here? I would very much
> refrain from that... Those inserted words/texts are in general not used
> in German. IIRC these were hardcoded in English inside the style files,
> is this still the case?
>
> (3) There was already a thread about this [b]. The current mechanism
> messes with the capitalization of the titles "Die alltägliche Nutzung
> von Musik". In English, this is mostly an aesthetic concern, in German
> and other languages this is definitely a bug and makes the reference
> list unusable.
> Maybe I missed something here: Is it possible to change this without
> modifying the ConTeXt core files? If not I request that the function
> Thomas pointed out in [b] is removed. If I want uncapitalized titles I
> can just use them uncapitalized in th bib or bbl file.
> IIRC putting the complete title in extra {}'s in the bib would solve
> this but is considered very very bad.
>
> (4) In the APA-style, the entries in the reference list are supposed to
> be double-spaced [c]. How can I achieve this? The command
> \setupinterlinespace[big] inside \start...\stoptext does the job for the
> normal text, but not for the referencelist.
>
> [a] APA Publication manual, 6th edition, 2010. Page 202, section 7.02
> "Books, Reference Books, and Book Chapters".
> [b] http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2011/059359.html
> [c] APA Publication manual, 6th edition, 2010. Page 37, section 2.11
> "References".
>
> I strongly hope that I can get answers to all of my points above, and
> any hints and suggestions are appreciated.
>
> Unfortunately I'm very unfamiliar with ConTeXt's mechanisms concerning
> the reference list and I don't know where and how to fix these issues,
> otherwise I would try to post patches instead...
>
> Kind regards,
> Stefan Müller.
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Re: Complexity of APA style, is this possible? (was: Some APA- and language related bibliography problems)

[Stefan Müller]

Hi again,

I was told the where the style files (e.g. bibl-apa-de.tex) are located 
and got directions on how the files should be modified.

I started modifying the bibl-apa.tex according to the 6th edition of the 
APA style manual.  But now I get the impression, that the mechanism with 
those style files isn't able to cope with APA.  That's why I wanted to 
ask if it is even possible to implement the following features by 
modifying the style files, or should I then better rewrite it in Lua (if 
there's need for extensive hackery)? :)  If it can be done with the 
style files, then please point my in the right direction?

-- When citing in text: two authors are separated only by "and", e.g. 
"Walker and Allen", but when there are three or more authors then there 
is a comma before the "and", e.g. "Bradley, Ramirez, and Soo".

-- When there is no author of the source and the editor is listed first, 
then the reference starts with "Editor, E. (Ed.)". But if authors are 
given (for e.g. a book chapter with own title) and the editors are 
listed later, then their names are not inverted and without the comma, 
e.g. "E. Editor (Ed.)".

-- According to the APA manual the complete list of authors is given in 
the publication list if there are seven or less authors. If there are 
eight or more authors, they are not abbreviated by "et al.", but the 
first six authors are given, followed by "..." and the last author.

-- The first citation (e.g. "Bradley, Ramirez, and Soo (2006)") of a 
reference should be different from subsequent citations (e.g. "Bradley 
et al. (2006)") of the same reference.

-- The number of authors abbreviation with "et al." depends on the 
author names: if there is e.g. "Bradley, Ramirez, and Soo (2006)" and 
"Bradley, Soo, and Allen (2006)", then the correct abbreviations after 
the first cite would be "Bradley, Ramirez, et al. (2006)" and "Bradley, 
Soo, et al. (2006)", respectively.

Thanks in advance for any hints or suggestions.
Kind regards,
Stefan
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