From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/70780 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_M=FCller?= Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Complexity of APA style, is this possible? (was: Some APA- and language related bibliography problems) Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 14:12:16 +0200 Message-ID: <4E4E5320.8080905@gmx.de> References: <4E4D0497.2030302@gmx.de> <4E4D1679.2010104@gmx.de> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1313756023 3148 80.91.229.12 (19 Aug 2011 12:13:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 12:13:43 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Aug 19 14:13:38 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QuNxB-0006zO-8Q for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Aug 2011 14:13:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AFC0CAEFA; Fri, 19 Aug 2011 14:13:33 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id PM+176VSG1YD; Fri, 19 Aug 2011 14:13:30 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43AC8CAEDC; Fri, 19 Aug 2011 14:13:30 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1C43CAEDC for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2011 14:13:27 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id wMbT6oDJf1jN for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2011 14:13:17 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter2-nij.mf.surf.net (filter2-nij.mf.surf.net [195.169.124.153]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34191CAED3 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2011 14:13:17 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by filter2-nij.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with SMTP id p7JCDGEq022327 for ; Fri, 19 Aug 2011 14:13:16 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 19 Aug 2011 12:13:15 -0000 Original-Received: from 77-64-188-24.dynamic.primacom.net (EHLO [192.168.100.108]) [77.64.188.24] by mail.gmx.net (mp072) with SMTP; 19 Aug 2011 14:13:15 +0200 X-Authenticated: #11064435 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18K3RYCNusKvUha8Zs1N3AdnNRtE33OBVLQ2vdX9+ Ny+uRHN5wzf4+X User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110812 Thunderbird/6.0 In-Reply-To: <4E4D1679.2010104@gmx.de> X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=213.165.64.22; country=DE; latitude=51.0000; longitude=9.0000; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=51.0000,9.0000&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0aFmcdgny - 9cd109ee96a2 - 20110819 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 195.169.124.153 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:70780 Archived-At: Hi again, I was told the where the style files (e.g. bibl-apa-de.tex) are located and got directions on how the files should be modified. I started modifying the bibl-apa.tex according to the 6th edition of the APA style manual. But now I get the impression, that the mechanism with those style files isn't able to cope with APA. That's why I wanted to ask if it is even possible to implement the following features by modifying the style files, or should I then better rewrite it in Lua (if there's need for extensive hackery)? :) If it can be done with the style files, then please point my in the right direction? -- When citing in text: two authors are separated only by "and", e.g. "Walker and Allen", but when there are three or more authors then there is a comma before the "and", e.g. "Bradley, Ramirez, and Soo". -- When there is no author of the source and the editor is listed first, then the reference starts with "Editor, E. (Ed.)". But if authors are given (for e.g. a book chapter with own title) and the editors are listed later, then their names are not inverted and without the comma, e.g. "E. Editor (Ed.)". -- According to the APA manual the complete list of authors is given in the publication list if there are seven or less authors. If there are eight or more authors, they are not abbreviated by "et al.", but the first six authors are given, followed by "..." and the last author. -- The first citation (e.g. "Bradley, Ramirez, and Soo (2006)") of a reference should be different from subsequent citations (e.g. "Bradley et al. (2006)") of the same reference. -- The number of authors abbreviation with "et al." depends on the author names: if there is e.g. "Bradley, Ramirez, and Soo (2006)" and "Bradley, Soo, and Allen (2006)", then the correct abbreviations after the first cite would be "Bradley, Ramirez, et al. (2006)" and "Bradley, Soo, et al. (2006)", respectively. Thanks in advance for any hints or suggestions. 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