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From: "Stefan Müller" <warrence.stm@gmx.de>
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Re: bibmodule acquired problem
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 12:50:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E81AA90.4000007@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <FD8CC7EB-15B8-4A3C-B884-363B9A089E9B@uva.nl>

Maybe one could modify

####################################
FUNCTION {inproceedings}
{ start.entry
   format.authors
   format.year
   format.arttitle
   crossref missing$
     { format.in.booktitle.or.series
       format.number.series
       "" "\city" address do.out
       format.pages
     }
     { format.incoll.inproc.crossref
       format.pages
     }
   if$
   "" "\pubname" publisher do.out
   "" "\organization" organization do.out
   stop.entry
}
####################################

to

####################################
FUNCTION {inproceedings}
{ start.entry
   format.authors
   format.year
   format.arttitle
   format.in.booktitle.or.series
   format.number.series
   "" "\city" address do.out
   format.pages
   format.incoll.inproc.crossref
   "" "\pubname" publisher do.out
   "" "\organization" organization do.out
   stop.entry
}
####################################

in cont-*.bst? I don't know if this would cause any trouble...

Stefan

On 27.09.2011 12:35, Meer, H. van der wrote:
> Yes, we are having the two faces same problem, I guess.
> The fact is that \booktitle in the crossref'ed publication should be processed as a \title item in the citatation crossreff'd. The error in my case boils down to the fact that the title-entry is called without being actually present.
>
> With the missing \title sofar I have nailed it down to macro \bibgetvart#1 from the following bbl entry:
>
> \startpublication[k=campbell:92,t=inproceedings,
> a={{Campbell},{Wiener}},y=1992,
> .. (no \title)
> \stoppublication
>
> and log printing in the log from the modified macro:
> \def\bibgetvart#1{\writestatus{ERROR}{Parameter<#1>  on bibgetvart \expandafter\string\csname pbd:#1\endcsname}\csname pbd:#1\endcsname\plussix}%
>
> I find the log:
> ERROR>  Parameter<campbell:92>  on bibgetvart \pbd:campbell:92
> ERROR>  Parameter<>  on bibgetvart \pbd:
> ! Missing \endcsname inserted.
>
> Thus the missing \title thus seems to result in extra call to a bibliography entry that does not exist.
> This is about as far as I am at the moment in analyzing the problem.
>
> Hans van der Meer
>
>
> On 27 sep. 2011, at 12:09, Stefan Müller wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I think this is related to my message from yesterday [1].  The "booktitle" key is ignored in "inproceedings" entries when "crossref" is present.  See the following excerpt from cont-ab.bst:
>>
>> ####################################
>> FUNCTION {inproceedings}
>> { start.entry
>>   format.authors
>>   format.year
>>   format.arttitle
>>   crossref missing$
>>     { format.in.booktitle.or.series
>>       format.number.series
>>       "" "\city" address do.out
>>       format.pages
>>     }
>>     { format.incoll.inproc.crossref
>>       format.pages
>>     }
>>   if$
>>   "" "\pubname" publisher do.out
>>   "" "\organization" organization do.out
>>   stop.entry
>> }
>> ####################################
>>
>> So "title" is not set in the .bbl file.  Good to know that I'm not the only one who's having trouble with that.
>>
>> I didn't know what I should expect when using "crossref", so I decided to not mind the missing booktitle.  But it would still be nice (as seen in your example) if the actual citation style could decide whether or not to use "booktitle" aka "title".
>>
>> HTH,
>> Stefan.
>>
>>
>> [1] http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20110926.093110.8bc078f6.en.html
>>
>> On 27.09.2011 10:41, Meer, H. van der wrote:
>>> Step by step I am able to dig deeper in the problem. The fact that it used to work but now doesn't may well be connected with the fact that the booktitle in those cases came from a "crossref =" item in the bib file. Could it be the \crossref{} macro is not recognized any longer by the ConTeXt bib module?
>>>
>>> In file bibl-tra.mkiv I encounter the following comment:
>>> %D \macros{bib@crossref}
>>> %D
>>> %D \type{\crossref} is used in database files to point to another
>>> %D entry. Because of this special situation, it has to be defined
>>> %D separately. Since this command will not be seen until at
>>> %D \type{\placepublications}, it may force extra runs. The same is
>>> %D true for \type{\cite} commands inside of publications.
>>>
>>> In typesetting the citation in the footnote I am solely using cite, not "\placepublications".
>>> Does someone know why earlier the \crossref worked and now obviously has been switched "out of the loop"?
>>> Is there another way to force these crossref's to be carried out?
>>>
>>> Hans van der Meer
>>>
>>> On 27 sep. 2011, at 10:07, Meer, H. van der wrote:
>>>
>>>> An addtionial remark here: in the .bib file this is caused by a missing "book title".
>>>>
>>>> On 27 sep. 2011, at 10:03, Hans van der Meer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Recently I reported the following problem:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 25 sep. 2011, at 19:58, H. van der Meer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I used the following macro for typsetting literature references in footnotes. It worked without problems until now, but then I didn't use the bib module for some time.
>>>>>> It looks like a problem has crept in with the<inproceedings>   type.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The error message:
>>>>>> <to be read again>
>>>>>>                  \pbd:
>>>>>> \bibgetvart #1->\csname pbd:#1\endcsname
>>>>>>                                        \plussix
>>>>>
>>>>> Digging into the code I finally was able to nail the problem: the offending citation being of type "t=inproceedings" was missing the "title" item. Then I observe a call with #1 in bibgetvart empty, somehow leading to a missing \endcsname error message.
>>>>>
>>>>> Obviously earlier this wasn't a problem but now is. I guess because the code changed since my previous work on the project.
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  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-27 10:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-25 17:58 Meer, H. van der
2011-09-27  8:03 ` Hans van der Meer
2011-09-27  8:07   ` Meer, H. van der
2011-09-27  8:41     ` Meer, H. van der
2011-09-27 10:09       ` Stefan Müller
2011-09-27 10:35         ` Meer, H. van der
2011-09-27 10:50           ` Stefan Müller [this message]
2011-09-27 11:33             ` Meer, H. van der
2011-09-27 12:12               ` Stefan Müller
2011-09-27 12:51               ` Meer, H. van der
2011-09-27 12:56                 ` Taco Hoekwater
2011-09-27 13:07                   ` Stefan Müller
2011-09-27 14:23                     ` Meer, H. van der

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