From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/71342 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_M=FCller?= Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: bibmodule acquired problem Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 12:50:56 +0200 Message-ID: <4E81AA90.4000007@gmx.de> References: <116E73AB-3E37-4E22-964C-25C62D70EE1F@uva.nl> <182B9444-49D1-4CC9-84A5-377F4DDE40E1@xs4all.nl> <77B9ED10-CC61-4342-A953-18F8D991A197@uva.nl> <122417A7-6837-4A98-8063-228717082B13@uva.nl> <4E81A0BF.2070706@gmx.de> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1317120697 9288 80.91.229.12 (27 Sep 2011 10:51:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 10:51:37 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Sep 27 12:51:30 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R8VG4-0007yx-Sp for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 12:51:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 285FACAFD8; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 12:51:28 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Cl8MSv9h3wm6; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 12:51:25 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C88FCAFD2; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 12:51:25 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34046CAFD2 for ; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 12:51:23 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id afLBFEX-TfUq for ; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 12:51:08 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter1-til.mf.surf.net (filter1-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.217]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D5B3CAFCD for ; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 12:51:08 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by filter1-til.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with SMTP id p8RAp6wF012215 for ; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 12:51:07 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 27 Sep 2011 10:51:05 -0000 Original-Received: from 77-64-195-49.dynamic.primacom.net (EHLO [192.168.100.108]) [77.64.195.49] by mail.gmx.net (mp065) with SMTP; 27 Sep 2011 12:51:05 +0200 X-Authenticated: #11064435 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+v9mkoDCKvLiwG2i6A8jsyaj8WTT6Nw/yC2SPr1X HBFOKHxbCOf6Do User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:6.0.2) Gecko/20110902 Thunderbird/6.0.2 In-Reply-To: X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=213.165.64.23; country=DE; latitude=51.0000; longitude=9.0000; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=51.0000,9.0000&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 08FBKP6Tr - 7ae13156b072 - 20110927 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.217 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:71342 Archived-At: Maybe one could modify #################################### FUNCTION {inproceedings} { start.entry format.authors format.year format.arttitle crossref missing$ { format.in.booktitle.or.series format.number.series "" "\city" address do.out format.pages } { format.incoll.inproc.crossref format.pages } if$ "" "\pubname" publisher do.out "" "\organization" organization do.out stop.entry } #################################### to #################################### FUNCTION {inproceedings} { start.entry format.authors format.year format.arttitle format.in.booktitle.or.series format.number.series "" "\city" address do.out format.pages format.incoll.inproc.crossref "" "\pubname" publisher do.out "" "\organization" organization do.out stop.entry } #################################### in cont-*.bst? I don't know if this would cause any trouble... Stefan On 27.09.2011 12:35, Meer, H. van der wrote: > Yes, we are having the two faces same problem, I guess. > The fact is that \booktitle in the crossref'ed publication should be proc= essed as a \title item in the citatation crossreff'd. The error in my case = boils down to the fact that the title-entry is called without being actuall= y present. > > With the missing \title sofar I have nailed it down to macro \bibgetvart#= 1 from the following bbl entry: > > \startpublication[k=3Dcampbell:92,t=3Dinproceedings, > a=3D{{Campbell},{Wiener}},y=3D1992, > .. (no \title) > \stoppublication > > and log printing in the log from the modified macro: > \def\bibgetvart#1{\writestatus{ERROR}{Parameter<#1> on bibgetvart \expan= dafter\string\csname pbd:#1\endcsname}\csname pbd:#1\endcsname\plussix}% > > I find the log: > ERROR> Parameter on bibgetvart \pbd:campbell:92 > ERROR> Parameter<> on bibgetvart \pbd: > ! Missing \endcsname inserted. > > Thus the missing \title thus seems to result in extra call to a bibliogra= phy entry that does not exist. > This is about as far as I am at the moment in analyzing the problem. > > Hans van der Meer > > > On 27 sep. 2011, at 12:09, Stefan M=FCller wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I think this is related to my message from yesterday [1]. The "booktitl= e" key is ignored in "inproceedings" entries when "crossref" is present. S= ee the following excerpt from cont-ab.bst: >> >> #################################### >> FUNCTION {inproceedings} >> { start.entry >> format.authors >> format.year >> format.arttitle >> crossref missing$ >> { format.in.booktitle.or.series >> format.number.series >> "" "\city" address do.out >> format.pages >> } >> { format.incoll.inproc.crossref >> format.pages >> } >> if$ >> "" "\pubname" publisher do.out >> "" "\organization" organization do.out >> stop.entry >> } >> #################################### >> >> So "title" is not set in the .bbl file. Good to know that I'm not the o= nly one who's having trouble with that. >> >> I didn't know what I should expect when using "crossref", so I decided t= o not mind the missing booktitle. But it would still be nice (as seen in y= our example) if the actual citation style could decide whether or not to us= e "booktitle" aka "title". >> >> HTH, >> Stefan. >> >> >> [1] http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20110926.093110.8bc078f6.en= .html >> >> On 27.09.2011 10:41, Meer, H. van der wrote: >>> Step by step I am able to dig deeper in the problem. The fact that it u= sed to work but now doesn't may well be connected with the fact that the bo= oktitle in those cases came from a "crossref =3D" item in the bib file. Cou= ld it be the \crossref{} macro is not recognized any longer by the ConTeXt = bib module? >>> >>> In file bibl-tra.mkiv I encounter the following comment: >>> %D \macros{bib@crossref} >>> %D >>> %D \type{\crossref} is used in database files to point to another >>> %D entry. Because of this special situation, it has to be defined >>> %D separately. Since this command will not be seen until at >>> %D \type{\placepublications}, it may force extra runs. The same is >>> %D true for \type{\cite} commands inside of publications. >>> >>> In typesetting the citation in the footnote I am solely using cite, not= "\placepublications". >>> Does someone know why earlier the \crossref worked and now obviously ha= s been switched "out of the loop"? >>> Is there another way to force these crossref's to be carried out? >>> >>> Hans van der Meer >>> >>> On 27 sep. 2011, at 10:07, Meer, H. van der wrote: >>> >>>> An addtionial remark here: in the .bib file this is caused by a missin= g "book title". >>>> >>>> On 27 sep. 2011, at 10:03, Hans van der Meer wrote: >>>> >>>>> Recently I reported the following problem: >>>>> >>>>> On 25 sep. 2011, at 19:58, H. van der Meer wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I used the following macro for typsetting literature references in f= ootnotes. It worked without problems until now, but then I didn't use the b= ib module for some time. >>>>>> It looks like a problem has crept in with the type. >>>>>> >>>>>> The error message: >>>>>> >>>>>> \pbd: >>>>>> \bibgetvart #1->\csname pbd:#1\endcsname >>>>>> \plussix >>>>> >>>>> Digging into the code I finally was able to nail the problem: the off= ending citation being of type "t=3Dinproceedings" was missing the "title" i= tem. Then I observe a call with #1 in bibgetvart empty, somehow leading to = a missing \endcsname error message. >>>>> >>>>> Obviously earlier this wasn't a problem but now is. 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