From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/71475 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: handling fonts with missing math Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2011 10:56:43 +0200 Message-ID: <4E86D5CB.402@wxs.nl> References: <4E820B87.5070200@wxs.nl> <4E820EA2.7080003@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1317459450 30318 80.91.229.12 (1 Oct 2011 08:57:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2011 08:57:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users To: Mojca Miklavec Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sat Oct 01 10:57:24 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R9vNr-0003JO-7u for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Sat, 01 Oct 2011 10:57:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B7EECAFC1; Sat, 1 Oct 2011 10:57:18 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id A47h6ldPjl+5; Sat, 1 Oct 2011 10:57:18 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97F68CAFC9; Sat, 1 Oct 2011 10:57:08 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 978E7CAFC9 for ; Sat, 1 Oct 2011 10:57:06 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 5VKEwEPrrEXk for ; Sat, 1 Oct 2011 10:56:55 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter2-ams.mf.surf.net (filter2-ams.mf.surf.net [192.87.102.70]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 297E8CAFC1 for ; Sat, 1 Oct 2011 10:56:55 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from smtp.ziggozakelijk.nl (D57D1DA2.static.ziggozakelijk.nl [213.125.29.162]) by filter2-ams.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id p918us5t020655 for ; Sat, 1 Oct 2011 10:56:54 +0200 X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=loggedin (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=10.100.1.100; Original-Received: from [10.100.1.100] (unverified [10.100.1.100]) by pragma-net.nl (SurgeMail 5.3h2) with ESMTP (TLS) id 6960-1713362 for multiple; Sat, 01 Oct 2011 10:56:52 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:7.0) Gecko/20110922 Thunderbird/7.0 In-Reply-To: X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-9 X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=213.125.29.162; country=NL; region=11; city=Den Haag; latitude=52.0833; longitude=4.3000; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.0833,4.3000&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0rFDkUSMM - 262adca1475f - 20111001 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 192.87.102.70 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:71475 Archived-At: On 30-9-2011 23:39, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 19:57, Hans Hagen wrote: >> On 27-9-2011 19:52, Mojca Miklavec wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 19:44, Hans Hagen wrote: >>>> >>>> there is some fall back mechanism that does that but as soon as one >>>> defined >>>> his/her own typescript that can interfere >>> >>> How should we define trypescripts to avoid interference then? >> >> A typeface definition normally has a matching monospace and math definition >> (so: ss + tt + mm or rm + tt + mm or in some cases rm + ss + tt + mm). Of >> course some relative scaling has to be considered then. > > Do you want to say that we need an explicit definition of LM Math? > > Just curious: how much information is missing/how much would would it > be if we would want to create a virtual math font by combining LM + > populating italic/bold/bold italic latin and greek math alphabets from > text font? Would that look horrible because of lack of information > about glyph metrics? that is relatively easy: just make a lfg file that contains the specification (and choose some math font that suits) my guess is that it will look bad in most cases we might consider making a sort of generic partial math font (maybe even needs to be designed) that sort of fills in the usual bits and pieces (root signs, arrows etc) in a way that matches an average font (we probably need a few weights then) of course that would only work for not too fancy math Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________