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From: "Thomas A. Schmitz" <thomas.schmitz@uni-bonn.de>
To: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>,
	mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Re: xml and lua again
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 12:48:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4EAA8886.40204@uni-bonn.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EAA6E5A.8010606@wxs.nl>

On 10/28/11 10:56, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Just switch to philosopher mode for a while and ask yourself what
> implications that would have in the rather fuzzy world of printing.
>
> What is a 'real' dimension? What we call points (pt) is in other
> application also called points but happens to be basepoints in our
> universe (bp). Also, imagine that in good american tradition the
> dimension would have been inches while we all moved on to meters ...
>
> So, Knuth foresaw this (and also wanted predictable calculations and
> wanted to avoid unportable floating points) so he came up with his own
> unit: scaled points. So, a \dimen is just a \count but consider it
> tagged to show you pt for convenience when printed (\the) and the parser
> permits you to enter these numbers as pt/bp/dd/cc/cm/mm etc.
>
> At the lua end all are just integers (with some limited size but that
> might change as Taco and I want to play a bit with adding a couple of
> bytes and see to what extent that will break things).
>
> In metapost the internal unit is bp (because it targets at postscript)
> and there cm, mm etc are just variables that one multiplies with so
> there you can change the universe by just saying "in := cm".
>
> Skips are another story (not to speak of boxes as we do have a dimendef
> but not a boxdef of inserts which are yet another class of animals).

Thanks for this philosophical explanation - I guess I'll have to reread 
these passages in the TeX book. I'm looking forward to your experiments :-)

Thomas
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  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-28 10:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-22 16:46 Thomas A. Schmitz
2011-10-23 14:04 ` Peter Rolf
2011-10-23 14:37   ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2011-10-23 15:25     ` Peter Rolf
2011-10-23 18:15 ` Peter Rolf
2011-10-24 10:17 ` Hans Hagen
2011-10-24 12:18   ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2011-10-24 12:26     ` Hans Hagen
2011-10-24 17:00       ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2011-10-24 18:48         ` Hans Hagen
2011-10-25  9:43           ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2011-10-25 10:10             ` Wolfgang Schuster
2011-10-25 10:17             ` Hans Hagen
2011-10-25 10:27               ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2011-10-27  9:23                 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2011-10-27  9:53                   ` Wolfgang Schuster
2011-10-27 10:32                     ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2011-10-27 11:05                       ` Hans Hagen
2011-10-28  6:23                         ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2011-10-28  6:37                           ` luigi scarso
2011-10-28  6:43                             ` luigi scarso
2011-10-28  6:44                           ` Patrick Gundlach
2011-10-28  6:55                             ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2011-10-28  8:35                               ` Wolfgang Schuster
2011-10-28  8:59                                 ` Hans Hagen
2011-10-28  8:56                               ` Hans Hagen
2011-10-28 10:48                                 ` Thomas A. Schmitz [this message]
2011-10-28 11:23                                 ` luigi scarso
2011-10-28 11:42                                   ` Hans Hagen

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