From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/72717 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans Hagen Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: \unit and Hertz, lux, and degrees/minutes/seconds Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 09:29:41 +0100 Message-ID: <4ECF51F5.7050308@wxs.nl> References: , <4ECA1F49.6020309@wxs.nl> <746538930812A54DA07A768D52329470020C7D521E@exvic-mbx01.nexus.csiro.au> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1322209813 31376 80.91.229.12 (25 Nov 2011 08:30:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 08:30:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ntg-context@ntg.nl To: Robin.Kirkham@csiro.au Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Nov 25 09:30:08 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RTrAc-0006Hp-7G for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 09:30:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F4CBCB1D2; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 09:30:01 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id ONGQXrgI+vsH; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 09:29:59 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB568CB1BF; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 09:29:58 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22BD9CB1BF for ; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 09:29:57 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id ijf9EAHevFiT for ; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 09:29:46 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter2-nij.mf.surf.net (filter2-nij.mf.surf.net [195.169.124.153]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2148ECB198 for ; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 09:29:46 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from smtp.ziggozakelijk.nl (D57D1DA2.static.ziggozakelijk.nl [213.125.29.162]) by filter2-nij.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id pAP8TjHx006090 for ; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 09:29:45 +0100 X-Default-Received-SPF: pass (skip=loggedin (res=PASS)) x-ip-name=10.100.1.100; Original-Received: from [10.100.1.100] (unverified [10.100.1.100]) by pragma-net.nl (SurgeMail 5.3h2) with ESMTP (TLS) id 834-1713362 for multiple; Fri, 25 Nov 2011 09:29:42 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 In-Reply-To: <746538930812A54DA07A768D52329470020C7D521E@exvic-mbx01.nexus.csiro.au> X-Authenticated-User: hagen@controller-9 X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=213.125.29.162; country=NL; region=11; city=Den Haag; latitude=52.0833; longitude=4.3000; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.0833,4.3000&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0aG1ktJEE - 0f3175b89bf1 - 20111125 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 195.169.124.153 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:72717 Archived-At: On 24-11-2011 13:36, Robin.Kirkham@csiro.au wrote: > On Monday, 21 November 2011 20:52, Hans Hagen wrote: > >>> Over the weekend I've discovered a couple more problems with \unit so I'll >>> make up some test cases and desired output and post it in a few days. >> >> ok, I'll wait for that then > > Hans, all, > > I attach a document (source and PDF) with some \unit test cases that don't currently work > (even with the most recent beta). It also has a number of suggestions for improvement. > Some of this should be construed as personal opinion, but hopefully it isn't too controversial. I uploaded a new beta. - degrees fixed (special category as it can be standalone or in combination). - per fixed - Hz, dB (actually deci + bel so megabel also works), lx, permille, t, k, Da added - eV, m, \mu m, root added - ad 1: should normally work out ok - ad 2: no looking back (would demand an extra correction pass elsewhere, maybe some day) - ad 3: see remark WS - ad 4: see remark WS (also, the existing module was starting point) - ad 5: depends on what users want - ad 6: see remark WS - ad 7: the old modules had that, maybe this one will have it too; in that case we need a list of descriptions too (for different languages) for units that make sense to be mentioned in such a list - ad 8: manipulating the input this way is somewhat beyond the purpose of a typesetting system - ad 9: much will be configureable; see mkiv file for an example of defining extra units (\registerunit [units] [point=pt, basepoint=bp]); - I myself am not going to look in all kind of other tex stuff that lays around as it's up to users/usage what is added, given that it fits into the model of context; we have the old units modules as starting point ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________