Word-wrap/hyphenation with very large font size not working consistently

Word-wrap/hyphenation with very large font size not working consistently

[Pavneet Arora]

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I am trying to typeset some signs for a construction site.  I enclose a 
(somewhat contrived) for consideration.

What I am having difficulty with is to get word wrap and interline spacing to 
work consistently.  I am using \framed, but if there is a better way please let 
me know.  The trouble I am having is getting lines to break consistently. 
Sometimes they do, but as in this case the second word `through' continues 
beyond the frame width.  You may also try to substitute the text ``Enter this 
way today'', another contrived example to see the effect.  The symbol font that 
I am using is Symbol-Signs from:

http://www.fontsquirrel.com/fonts/Symbol-Signs

but I shouldn't think that is pertinent to the problem.

Any guidance on what is the issue here?  Or if there is a better way to go about 
doing this type of signage.

I am also interested in learning how to do vertical centering of blocks of text, 
i.e., in a formal letter or in this case of setting text for signs.  I have read 
and tried to understand Wolfgang's response to Jaroslav's earlier enquiry:

http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20100702.112805.07aa71e2.en.html

but I really don't understand it and how to make it work for my applications. 
Is there a simple template---say for a block of text---that someone might be 
able to offer for the ConTeXt challenged?

advTHANKSance

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\setuppapersize[legal,landscape]
\setuplayout[header=0in,footer=0in,topspace=0.75in,bottomspace=0.75in,backspace=1in,width=12in]
\setuppagenumbering[location=]
\usemodule[simplefonts]
\setmainfont[texgyreschola]
\definebodyfont [10pt,11pt,12pt][rm]
	[tfe=Serif at 128pt,
	ite=SerifItalic at 128pt]
\setupbodyfont[12pt]
\setupinterlinespace[line=1.2\bodyfontsize]
\starttext
%\showlayout[pt,in]
%\showbodyfont
\dontleavehmode\framed[width=7in,align={flushright,nothyphenated,verytolerant},frame=on]{%
\tfe Enter through here for parking
}
\dontleavehmode\framed[width=5in,frame=off]{%
{\simplefont[symbol-signs][size=500pt] K}
}
\stoptext

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Re: Word-wrap/hyphenation with very large font size not working consistently

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 03.12.2011 um 16:31 schrieb Pavneet Arora:

> I am trying to typeset some signs for a construction site.  I enclose a (somewhat contrived) for consideration.
> 
> What I am having difficulty with is to get word wrap and interline spacing to work consistently.  I am using \framed, but if there is a better way please let me know.  The trouble I am having is getting lines to break consistently. Sometimes they do, but as in this case the second word `through' continues beyond the frame width.  You may also try to substitute the text ``Enter this way today'', another contrived example to see the effect.  The symbol font that I am using is Symbol-Signs from:
> 
> http://www.fontsquirrel.com/fonts/Symbol-Signs
> 
> but I shouldn't think that is pertinent to the problem.
> 
> Any guidance on what is the issue here?  Or if there is a better way to go about doing this type of signage.
> 
> I am also interested in learning how to do vertical centering of blocks of text, i.e., in a formal letter or in this case of setting text for signs.  I have read and tried to understand Wolfgang's response to Jaroslav's earlier enquiry:
> 
> http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20100702.112805.07aa71e2.en.html
> 
> but I really don't understand it and how to make it work for my applications. Is there a simple template---say for a block of text---that someone might be able to offer for the ConTeXt challenged?

\setuppapersize[legal,landscape]

\setuplayout
  [header=0in,
   footer=0in,
   topspace=0.75in,
   bottomspace=0.75in,
   backspace=1in,
   width=12in]

\setuppagenumbering
  [location=]

\usemodule[simplefonts]

\setmainfont[TeX Gyre Schola]

%\setupinterlinespace[line=1.2\bodyfontsize]
\setupinterlinespace[line=2.2ex]

\starttext
\dontleavehmode
\framed
  [width=7in,align={flushright,nothyphenated,broad},frame=on]
  {\definedfont[Serif at 128pt]\setupinterlinespace Enter through here for parking\par}%
\framed
  [width=5in,frame=off]
% {\definedfont[name:symbolsigns at 500pt]K}
  {\definedfont[Sans at 500pt]K}
\stoptext

Wolfgang
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Re: Word-wrap/hyphenation with very large font size not working consistently

[Pavneet Arora]

Thanks Wolfgang,

I see that the main change was align=broad as an option to \framed. Could you 
tell me what that does, or point me to where it is described?  I see broad 
described in terms of width and height but not align under the description for 
framed.

Thanks.

On 11-12-03 10:43 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
> Am 03.12.2011 um 16:31 schrieb Pavneet Arora:
>
>> I am trying to typeset some signs for a construction site.  I enclose a (somewhat contrived) for consideration.
>>
>> What I am having difficulty with is to get word wrap and interline spacing to work consistently.  I am using \framed, but if there is a better way please let me know.  The trouble I am having is getting lines to break consistently. Sometimes they do, but as in this case the second word `through' continues beyond the frame width.  You may also try to substitute the text ``Enter this way today'', another contrived example to see the effect.  The symbol font that I am using is Symbol-Signs from:
>>
>> http://www.fontsquirrel.com/fonts/Symbol-Signs
>>
>> but I shouldn't think that is pertinent to the problem.
>>
>> Any guidance on what is the issue here?  Or if there is a better way to go about doing this type of signage.
>>
>> I am also interested in learning how to do vertical centering of blocks of text, i.e., in a formal letter or in this case of setting text for signs.  I have read and tried to understand Wolfgang's response to Jaroslav's earlier enquiry:
>>
>> http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20100702.112805.07aa71e2.en.html
>>
>> but I really don't understand it and how to make it work for my applications. Is there a simple template---say for a block of text---that someone might be able to offer for the ConTeXt challenged?
>
> \setuppapersize[legal,landscape]
>
> \setuplayout
>    [header=0in,
>     footer=0in,
>     topspace=0.75in,
>     bottomspace=0.75in,
>     backspace=1in,
>     width=12in]
>
> \setuppagenumbering
>    [location=]
>
> \usemodule[simplefonts]
>
> \setmainfont[TeX Gyre Schola]
>
> %\setupinterlinespace[line=1.2\bodyfontsize]
> \setupinterlinespace[line=2.2ex]
>
> \starttext
> \dontleavehmode
> \framed
>    [width=7in,align={flushright,nothyphenated,broad},frame=on]
>    {\definedfont[Serif at 128pt]\setupinterlinespace Enter through here for parking\par}%
> \framed
>    [width=5in,frame=off]
> % {\definedfont[name:symbolsigns at 500pt]K}
>    {\definedfont[Sans at 500pt]K}
> \stoptext
>
> Wolfgang

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- Pavneet Arora

Waroc Fine Audio + Custom Home Cinema
www.waroc.com  416.937.WAROC (9276)

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Re: Word-wrap/hyphenation with very large font size not working consistently

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 03.12.2011 um 17:55 schrieb Pavneet Arora:

> Thanks Wolfgang,
> 
> I see that the main change was align=broad as an option to \framed. Could you tell me what that does, or point me to where it is described?  I see broad described in terms of width and height but not align under the description for framed.

With the “broad” key you can increase the tolerance for ragged (left, middle and right) text as you can see in the example below.

\starttext

\startalignment[flushleft]
\input ward
\stopalignment

\blank

\startalignment[flushleft,broad]
\input ward
\stopalignment

\stoptext

Wolfgang
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Re: Word-wrap/hyphenation with very large font size not working consistently

[Pavneet Arora]

Thanks for the clarification!  I'll keep that in mind.

On 11-12-03 12:14 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
> Am 03.12.2011 um 17:55 schrieb Pavneet Arora:
>
>> Thanks Wolfgang,
>>
>> I see that the main change was align=broad as an option to \framed. Could you tell me what that does, or point me to where it is described?  I see broad described in terms of width and height but not align under the description for framed.
>
> With the “broad” key you can increase the tolerance for ragged (left, middle and right) text as you can see in the example below.
>
> \starttext
>
> \startalignment[flushleft]
> \input ward
> \stopalignment
>
> \blank
>
> \startalignment[flushleft,broad]
> \input ward
> \stopalignment
>
> \stoptext
>
> Wolfgang

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