From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/72973 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Thomas A. Schmitz" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Migrating from prosper to simpleslides in creating presentations Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2011 09:29:47 +0100 Message-ID: <4EDF23FB.5070308@uni-bonn.de> References: <4EDE99D2.3080006@waroc.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1323246602 2476 80.91.229.12 (7 Dec 2011 08:30:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 08:30:02 +0000 (UTC) To: pavneet_arora@waroc.com, mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Dec 07 09:29:57 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RYCt0-0005qd-4l for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2011 09:29:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA66ECB134; Wed, 7 Dec 2011 09:29:53 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id DRmQyxAhNcu9; Wed, 7 Dec 2011 09:29:53 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4351ACB139; Wed, 7 Dec 2011 09:29:51 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90C93CB139 for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2011 09:29:50 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id mm2a+SZtcHR9 for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2011 09:29:48 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter4-ams.mf.surf.net (filter4-ams.mf.surf.net [192.87.102.72]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99DD5CB134 for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2011 09:29:48 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from uni-bonn.de (mail.uni-bonn.de [131.220.15.113]) by filter4-ams.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id pB78Tl88022642 for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2011 09:29:48 +0100 Original-Received: from [87.178.40.171] (account tschmit1@uni-bonn.de HELO [192.168.0.27]) by fe2.uni-bonn.de (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.12) with ESMTPSA id 5370672; Wed, 07 Dec 2011 09:29:47 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111105 Thunderbird/8.0 In-Reply-To: <4EDE99D2.3080006@waroc.com> X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0002 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=131.220.15.113; country=DE; region=07; city=Bonn; latitude=50.7333; longitude=7.1000; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=50.7333,7.1000&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 03G68tLG6 - 5cec899673b8 - 20111207 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 192.87.102.72 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:72973 Archived-At: On 12/06/2011 11:40 PM, Pavneet Arora wrote: > Thanks Wolfgang and Marco for the quick responses. Marco, `impressive' > looks just the thing that will easily allow me to add transitions while > still using simpleslides to get me going until I can do my own DIY slides. > > Regards. Glad you found a solution. Maybe just a word explaining why I find it a waste of time to do work on such transitions in simpleslides: even if we accept, for the sake of the argument, that such transitions are more than a mere distraction, it is almost impossible to get acceptable results across platforms and pdf viewers. Most viewers under linux will either not show transitions at all or show them in such an ugly way that your audience may leave in disgust. If something like this doesn't work, newbies will of course assume that it's the module's fault, while in reality, it's the implementation of the pdf viewer. Instead of having inconsistent and potentially unsatisfying results, I prefer to leave these transitions to outside tools. And a tiny bit of anecdotal evidence: I had been using a "cube" transition for a while in my classroom lectures. I thought it was cool. And then, one day, I was standing somewhere in the back of the classroom while I was changing slides with my remote control, and I saw the effect for the first time from the audience's point of view. The slide pretty much fills up the front wall of the classroom, and watching the cube turn was absolutely nauseating; I was surprised that none of the students had ever complained (or thrown up...). It was horrible, and I have given up all transitions ever since... Thomas ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________