* Initials / DroppedCaps
@ 2011-12-13 12:08 Henning Hraban Ramm
2011-12-13 12:28 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2011-12-13 12:38 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2011-12-13 12:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
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For a book of fairy tales, I used (working!):
\def\Initial{\DroppedCaps%
{\color[red]} {Serif} {2.5\baselineskip} {3pt} {2\baselineskip} {3}}
\starttext
\Initial Once upon a time... \input tufte
\stoptext
But that gives now:
<to be read again>
\unskip
\\->\ifhmode \unskip
\prewordbreak \crlfplaceholder \ifcase
\raggedstatus \h...
\somefontsize ->2.5\\
baselineskip
\lowleveldefinefont ...aledfontsize \somefontsize
\or \scaledfontsize
\local...
\dododefinefont ...inefont {#2}\rawfontidentifier
\csname
\rawfontidentifier...
\dodefinedfont ...nedfont][#1]\fi \thedefinedfont
\the
\everydefinedfont
...
l.7 \Initial O
nce upon a time... \input tufte
It works, if I use absolute values for font size and vertical offset,
like
\def\Initial{\DroppedCaps%
{\color[red]} {Serif} {36pt} {3pt} {28pt} {3}}
I also tried \setupinitial / \placeinitial like below; I got my
defined font, but only ever in base font size.
%\definefontsynonym[Initial][WieynkInitialen]
\setupinitial[font=WieynkInitialen,n=3,state=start,command=\Initial] %
I also tried \NiceDroppedCaps and \LineDroppedCaps that I found in the
sources, but didn’t get further.
So, what’s the preferred way to get dropped capitals / initials?
I’d like to wikify that, since it seems nowhere documented.
Greetlings from Lake Constance!
Hraban
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* Re: Initials / DroppedCaps
2011-12-13 12:08 Initials / DroppedCaps Henning Hraban Ramm
@ 2011-12-13 12:28 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2011-12-13 13:17 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2011-12-13 12:38 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2011-12-13 12:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 13.12.2011 um 13:08 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm:
> For a book of fairy tales, I used (working!):
>
> \def\Initial{\DroppedCaps%
> {\color[red]} {Serif} {2.5\baselineskip} {3pt} {2\baselineskip} {3}}
>
> \starttext
> \Initial Once upon a time... \input tufte
> \stoptext
\setupbodyfont[pagella]
\setupinitial
[color=red]
\starttext
\placeinitial Once upon a time... \input tufte
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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* Re: Initials / DroppedCaps
2011-12-13 12:08 Initials / DroppedCaps Henning Hraban Ramm
2011-12-13 12:28 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2011-12-13 12:38 ` Hans Hagen
2011-12-13 14:15 ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-12-13 12:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 13-12-2011 13:08, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> For a book of fairy tales, I used (working!):
> ...
> So, what’s the preferred way to get dropped capitals / initials?
> I’d like to wikify that, since it seems nowhere documented.
Initials have been rewritten (they also no longer pick up an argument
which is more robust). The old macros will probably be removed (or end
up in a module).
\setupinitial[font=Bold at 48pt,state=start]
\starttext
\placeinitial \input tufte
\placeinitial \input ward
\stoptext
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* Re: Initials / DroppedCaps
2011-12-13 12:28 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2011-12-13 13:17 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2011-12-13 13:22 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2011-12-13 13:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 2011-12-13 um 13:28 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
> \setupbodyfont[pagella]
>
> \setupinitial
> [color=red]
>
> \starttext
> \placeinitial Once upon a time... \input tufte
> \stoptext
Grmbl, I would have sworn that didn’t work before! But it does. Thank
you!
Am 2011-12-13 um 13:38 schrieb Hans Hagen:
> Initials have been rewritten (they also no longer pick up an
> argument which is more robust). The old macros will probably be
> removed (or end up in a module).
>
> \setupinitial[font=Bold at 48pt,state=start]
Ok, but how can I set the font size relative to bodyfontsize/
baselineskip?
"state=start" doesn’t seem necessary, it works without.
Greetlings from Lake Constance!
Hraban
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* Re: Initials / DroppedCaps
2011-12-13 13:17 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
@ 2011-12-13 13:22 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2011-12-13 13:42 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2011-12-13 13:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 13.12.2011 um 14:17 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm:
> Am 2011-12-13 um 13:38 schrieb Hans Hagen:
>
>> Initials have been rewritten (they also no longer pick up an argument which is more robust). The old macros will probably be removed (or end up in a module).
>>
>> \setupinitial[font=Bold at 48pt,state=start]
>
> Ok, but how can I set the font size relative to bodyfontsize/baselineskip?
\setupinitial[font=Bold sa 4]
Wolfgang
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* Re: Initials / DroppedCaps
2011-12-13 13:22 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2011-12-13 13:42 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2011-12-13 13:50 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2011-12-13 13:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 2011-12-13 um 14:22 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
>> Ok, but how can I set the font size relative to bodyfontsize/
>> baselineskip?
>
> \setupinitial[font=Bold sa 4]
Thank you, I feel stupid.
Works for me, but not in the wiki (I can’t get colors there, too).
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Initials
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* Re: Initials / DroppedCaps
2011-12-13 13:42 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
@ 2011-12-13 13:50 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2011-12-13 15:34 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2011-12-13 13:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 13.12.2011 um 14:42 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm:
> Am 2011-12-13 um 14:22 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
>
>>> Ok, but how can I set the font size relative to bodyfontsize/baselineskip?
>>
>> \setupinitial[font=Bold sa 4]
>
> Thank you, I feel stupid.
> Works for me, but not in the wiki (I can’t get colors there, too).
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Initials
The wiki use MkII and you have to enable colors first.
Wolfgang
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* Re: Initials / DroppedCaps
2011-12-13 12:38 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2011-12-13 14:15 ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
2011-12-13 14:35 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد @ 2011-12-13 14:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 05:38:09 -0700, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
>
> On 13-12-2011 13:08, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
>> For a book of fairy tales, I used (working!):
> > ...
>> So, what’s the preferred way to get dropped capitals / initials?
>> I’d like to wikify that, since it seems nowhere documented.
>
> Initials have been rewritten (they also no longer pick up an argument
> which is more robust). The old macros will probably be removed (or end
> up in a module).
>
> \setupinitial[font=Bold at 48pt,state=start]
>
> \starttext
>
> \placeinitial \input tufte
>
> \placeinitial \input ward
>
> \stoptext
Hmm, I did not realize that dropped caps were still supported in MkIV base
so I've been using
\usemodule[lettrine]
which also lets you set not only dropped caps but the next couple of words
or so in another font -- such as small caps.
Hans: Does the \setupinitial also allow to set the words immediately after
in \sc etc?
Henning: Maybe you can try lettrines as well and compare them, see which
works best for what you're trying to do ... Here is a sample for you to
play with
===========
\usemodule[lettrine]
\def \LettrineStyle{\definefontsynonym[LettrineFont][Italic]}
\setuplettrine
[A][Lines=2,Findent=0.2em,Nindent=0.01em,FontHook={\LettrineStyle}]
\setuplettrine
[T][Lines=2,Findent=0.35em,Nindent=0.01em,FontHook={\LettrineStyle},Hang=.25]
\setuplettrine
[I][Lines=2,Findent=0.3em,Nindent=0.01em,FontHook={\LettrineStyle},Hang=.25]
\setuplettrine
[O][Lines=2,Findent=0.2em,Nindent=0.01em,FontHook={\LettrineStyle}]
\setuplettrine
[C][Lines=2,Findent=0.3em,Nindent=0.01em,FontHook={\LettrineStyle}]
\setuplettrine
[W][Lines=2,Findent=0.3em,Nindent=0.01em,FontHook={\LettrineStyle},Hang=.34]
\starttext
\lettrine{A}{fter the three} \input ward
\stoptext
===========
Best wishes
Idris
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International Journal of Shīʿī Studies
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
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* Re: Initials / DroppedCaps
2011-12-13 14:15 ` Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
@ 2011-12-13 14:35 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-12-13 14:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس
سماوي حامد
Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users, hraban
On 13-12-2011 15:15, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote:
> Hmm, I did not realize that dropped caps were still supported in MkIV
> base so I've been using
it is but not as pure macro but a lua hybrid
> which also lets you set not only dropped caps but the next couple of
> words or so in another font -- such as small caps.
>
> Hans: Does the \setupinitial also allow to set the words immediately
> after in \sc etc?
no, but it's doable (need a good reason for it)
Hans
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* Re: Initials / DroppedCaps
2011-12-13 13:50 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2011-12-13 15:34 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2011-12-13 15:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 2011-12-13 um 14:50 schrieb Wolfgang Schuster:
>> Works for me, but not in the wiki (I can’t get colors there, too).
>> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Initials
> The wiki use MkII and you have to enable colors first.
I did enable colors, but don’t get any. Maybe the color switch is not
in the MkII version.
Am 2011-12-13 um 15:15 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي
حامد:
> Hmm, I did not realize that dropped caps were still supported in
> MkIV base so I've been using
> \usemodule[lettrine]
> which also lets you set not only dropped caps but the next couple of
> words or so in another font -- such as small caps.
>
> Henning: Maybe you can try lettrines as well and compare them, see
> which works best for what you're trying to do ... Here is a sample
> for you to play with
Thank you for the hint, but I only need that one dropped cap. Even if
the first line/sentence in small caps looks very classical, I don’t
really like it.
I added your example to the wiki page: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Initials
Greetlings from Lake Constance!
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