From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/41605 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andrea Valle Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: distro info Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:00:05 +0200 Message-ID: <4F0FF6A1-CBA4-455D-80A5-785E59607044@di.unito.it> References: <6faad9f00806100858m332b0c18w1726368830a29a3c@mail.gmail.com> <46D24799-264A-4AFE-9089-A63F4226985C@mpq.mpg.de> <8687593C-CFC0-4F6A-9EA2-091FC7CBB2CC@di.unito.it> <6faad9f00806110905q32b9c142t6af44f2edf85adbf@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0333217141==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1213261337 31817 80.91.229.12 (12 Jun 2008 09:02:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:02:17 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Jun 12 11:02:56 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K6ihr-0006Ul-2G for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:02:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A96521FC6F; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:02:05 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 21061-01-4; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:01:25 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 645D91FBC6; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:01:25 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0081B1FB30 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:01:24 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 20308-01-8 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:00:50 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from pianeta.di.unito.it (pianeta.di.unito.it [130.192.156.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC6DE1FBC6 for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:00:49 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.2] (d81-211-247-143.cust.tele2.it [81.211.247.143]) by pianeta.di.unito.it (INFO-DIP) with ESMTP id m5C908hI011165 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO userCertificateDN= AuthenticatedUser=valle ) for ; Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:00:08 +0200 (MEST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) X-dipinfo-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Department of Computer Science technical staff for more information X-AntiVirus: Scanned for viruses by VirusFinder @2001-tecnici@di.unito.it - Email Clean X-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-102.498, required 3.5, autolearn=not spam, AUTHENTICATEDUSER -100.00, BAYES_00 -2.60, HTML_MESSAGE 0.00, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.10) X-MailScanner-From: valle@di.unito.it X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:41605 Archived-At: --===============0333217141== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-69-878287704 --Apple-Mail-69-878287704 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed The fact IMHO is that there's a potentially large base of ConTeXt =20 users which are willing to learn the syntax but are scared about =20 terminals, setting paths etc (well, me too: knowing substantially nothing of unix I'm never =20 comfortable with unix aspects of my system) So, an installer is really welcome. Best -a- On 11 Jun 2008, at 22:43, Jesse Alama wrote: > I second Andrea's opinion -- I'm also looking forward to a > straightforward way of updating ConTeXt and kin. I'm comfortable with > > ctxtools --updatecontext, > > but much less comfortable updating binaries and fonts, based on my > experience screwing up my installation; a nice Mac OS X interface to > deal with all these would be great. How about allowing =20 > installation of > modules from http://modules.contextgarden.net, too? > > (I admit that there's probably a good deal of FUD here on my part and > it's not as complicated as I think it is. My guess, though, is =20 > that I'm > not alone.) > > Jesse > > Andrea Valle writes: > >> Wow, much needed. >> Looking forward to see it. >> >> Best >> >> -a- >> >> On 11 Jun 2008, at 18:05, Mojca Miklavec wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Andrea Valle wrote: >> >> Hi Oliver, >> >> I've already assembled a working ConTeXt package based on =20 >> the minimals >> that installs via the Apple installer. In other words, it =20 >> will provide >> the same seamless installation experience to the user as =20 >> known from >> the MacTeX package and, in fact, as known from any decent Mac >> software. >> >> Fantastic. Exactly what I need. But will you include TeXShop? >> >> You can use the existing TeXShop or any other editor. Besides =20 >> that, in >> summer or autumn a new cross-platform editor by Jonathan Kew =20 >> will be >> available. >> >> Will the tex >> file system be local (i.e. separated from the usual =20 >> locations) ? >> >> You will be able to use PreferencePane to select whether you =20 >> want to >> use MacTeX or ConTeXt minimals (and which version), and that =20 >> will be >> done globally. /usr/texbin will be a symlink to binaries. >> >> Mojca >> =20 >> _____________________________________________________________________=20= >> ______________ >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add =20 >> an entry to >> the Wiki! >> >> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/=20 >> listinfo/ >> ntg-context >> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net >> archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ >> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >> =20 >> _____________________________________________________________________=20= >> ______________ >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> Andrea Valle >> -------------------------------------------------- >> CIRMA - DAMS >> Universit=E0 degli Studi di Torino >> --> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ >> --> http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle >> --> andrea.valle@unito.it >> -------------------------------------------------- >> >> " >> Think of it as seasoning >> . noise [salt] is boring >> . F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring >> . F(noise, blah) can be really tasty >> " >> (Ken Perlin on noise) >> >> _____________________________________________________________________=20= >> ______________ >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an =20 >> entry to the Wiki! >> >> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/=20= >> ntg-context >> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net >> archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ >> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >> _____________________________________________________________________=20= >> ______________ > > --=20 > Jesse Alama (alama@stanford.edu) > > ______________________________________________________________________=20= > _____________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an =20 > entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/=20 > ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ______________________________________________________________________=20= > _____________ -------------------------------------------------- Andrea Valle -------------------------------------------------- CIRMA - DAMS Universit=E0 degli Studi di Torino --> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ --> http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle --> andrea.valle@unito.it -------------------------------------------------- " Think of it as seasoning . noise [salt] is boring . F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring . F(noise, blah) can be really tasty " (Ken Perlin on noise) --Apple-Mail-69-878287704 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 The fact IMHO is that there's a potentially large base of ConTeXt users = which are willing to learn the syntax but are scared about terminals, = setting paths etc
(well, me too: knowing substantially nothing of = unix I'm never comfortable with unix aspects of my system)
So, = an installer is really = welcome.

Best

-a-
<= div>


On 11 Jun 2008, at = 22:43, Jesse Alama wrote:

I second Andrea's opinion -- I'm also looking = forward to a
straightforward way of updating = ConTeXt and kin.=A0 I'm = comfortable with

=A0 = ctxtools --updatecontext,=A0

but much less = comfortable updating binaries and fonts, based on my
experience screwing up my installation; a nice Mac = OS X interface to
deal with all these would be = great.=A0 How about = allowing installation of

(I admit that there's probably a good deal of FUD = here on my part and
it's not as complicated as = I think it is.=A0 My guess, = though, is that I'm
not alone.)


Andrea Valle <valle@di.unito.it> = writes:

=
Wow, much needed.
Looking forward to see it.


-a-

On 11 Jun 2008, at 18:05, Mojca = Miklavec wrote:

=A0 =A0 = On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Andrea Valle wrote:

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Hi = Oliver,

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = I've already assembled a working ConTeXt package based on the = minimals
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 that installs via = the Apple installer. In other words, it will provide
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = the same seamless installation experience to the user as known = from
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 the MacTeX = package and, in fact, as known from any decent Mac
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = software.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = Fantastic. Exactly what I need. But will you include = TeXShop?

=A0 =A0 = You can use the existing TeXShop or any other editor. Besides = that, in
=A0 =A0 summer or autumn a new = cross-platform editor by Jonathan Kew will be
=A0 =A0 = available.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = Will the tex
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 file system be = local (i.e. separated from the usual locations) ?

=A0 =A0 You will be able to use = PreferencePane to select whether you want to
=A0 =A0 = use MacTeX or ConTeXt minimals (and which version), and that will = be
=A0 =A0 = done globally. /usr/texbin will be a symlink to = binaries.

=A0 =A0 = Mojca
=A0 =A0 = ___________________________________________________________________= ________________
=A0 =A0 If your question is of = interest to others as well, please add an entry to
=A0 =A0 = the Wiki!

=A0 =A0 = maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/lis= tinfo/
=A0 =A0 ntg-context
=A0 =A0 wiki =A0 =A0 : http://contextgarden.net
=A0 =A0 = ___________________________________________________________________= ________________

Andrea Valle
CIRMA - DAMS
Universit=E0 = degli Studi di Torino

Think of it as = seasoning
. noise [salt] is = boring
. F(blah) [food without salt] = can be boring
. F(noise, blah) can be really = tasty
"
(Ken = Perlin on noise)

If your question is of interest = to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!

maillist = : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/= mailman/listinfo/ntg-context

--=A0
Jesse = Alama (alama@stanford.edu)

If your question is of interest = to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!

maillist = : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/= mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
http://www.cirma.unito.it/andre= a/
= --------------------------------------------------


"
Think of it as = seasoning
. noise [salt] is boring
. = F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring
. = F(noise, blah) can be really tasty
"
(Ken Perlin on = noise)




=

= --Apple-Mail-69-878287704-- --===============0333217141== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ --===============0333217141==--