* A bug in latin modern fonts? @ 2012-01-29 10:42 Janne Junnila 2012-02-04 8:15 ` Janne Junnila 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Janne Junnila @ 2012-01-29 10:42 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Hi! The following example seems to have some troubles with the latin modern fonts: \starttext The function $f \colon \reals \to \reals$ is given by $x \mapsto x - 3$. \stoptext The colon is printed fine, but the blackboard bold Rs don't look correct. The \mapsto symbol is missing and there's a hyphen instead of minus. Are others having the same issue? I tried to do a fresh install, but the problem persisted. There were some messages like fonts > otf loading > skipping cyclic reference U+00028 in math variant U+00028 during compiling. I don't know if they are related to the problem. Thanks, Janne Junnila ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: A bug in latin modern fonts? 2012-01-29 10:42 A bug in latin modern fonts? Janne Junnila @ 2012-02-04 8:15 ` Janne Junnila 2012-02-04 17:49 ` Aditya Mahajan 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Janne Junnila @ 2012-02-04 8:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Hi, I would like to my previous message that also Asana-Math seems to have problems. \setupbodyfont[asana] \starttext The function $f \colon \reals \to \reals$ is given by $x \mapsto x - 3$. Its derivative is $f'(x) = 1$. \stoptext In the above the ' in f'(x) looks wrong and there's hyphen instead of minus at x - 3. The problems arise in the current standalone, the latest stable one worked OK at least for the latin modern fonts. Janne Junnila On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Janne Junnila <janne.junnila@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi! > > The following example seems to have some troubles with the latin modern fonts: > > \starttext > > The function $f \colon \reals \to \reals$ is given by $x \mapsto x - 3$. > > \stoptext > > The colon is printed fine, but the blackboard bold Rs don't look > correct. The \mapsto symbol is missing and there's a hyphen instead of > minus. > > Are others having the same issue? I tried to do a fresh install, but > the problem persisted. There were some messages like > > fonts > otf loading > skipping cyclic reference U+00028 in > math variant U+00028 > > during compiling. I don't know if they are related to the problem. > > Thanks, > Janne Junnila ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: A bug in latin modern fonts? 2012-02-04 8:15 ` Janne Junnila @ 2012-02-04 17:49 ` Aditya Mahajan 2012-02-04 18:18 ` Khaled Hosny 2012-02-04 20:03 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2012-02-04 17:49 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1: Type: TEXT/PLAIN, Size: 2598 bytes --] On Sat, 4 Feb 2012, Janne Junnila wrote: > On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Janne Junnila <janne.junnila@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi! >> >> The following example seems to have some troubles with the latin modern fonts: >> >> \starttext >> >> The function $f \colon \reals \to \reals$ is given by $x \mapsto x - 3$. >> >> \stoptext >> >> The colon is printed fine, but the blackboard bold Rs don't look >> correct. The \mapsto symbol is missing and there's a hyphen instead of >> minus. >> >> Are others having the same issue? I tried to do a fresh install, but >> the problem persisted. There were some messages like >> >> fonts > otf loading > skipping cyclic reference U+00028 in >> math variant U+00028 >> >> during compiling. I don't know if they are related to the problem. > Hi, > > I would like to my previous message that also Asana-Math seems to have problems. > > \setupbodyfont[asana] > \starttext > > The function $f \colon \reals \to \reals$ is given by $x \mapsto x - > 3$. Its derivative is > $f'(x) = 1$. > > \stoptext > > In the above the ' in f'(x) looks wrong and there's hyphen instead of > minus at x - 3. > The problems arise in the current standalone, the latest stable one > worked OK at least > for the latin modern fonts. The reference implementatation for math handling is cambria. With cambria $f'(x)$ and $\mapsto$ work fine. But $a-b$ gives text minus, and $a \colonequals b$ gives an error. @Hans and Khaled: Any idea why this is happening? \starttext \setupbodyfont[cambria] $a-b$ % text minus $a \colonequals b$ % error \stoptext $f'(x)$ works fine with cambria and xits, but is placed low with asana. My guess is that this is the font's fault; with asana $f^{'}$ works fine. The same "bug" is also present with LMmath. The symbol \mapsto appears to be missing from asana and lmmath. ConTeXt currently does not use fall backs for missing math glyphs. Finally, $\reals$ works correctly with cambria, asana, lmmath, and xtis. It does not work with euler, but that is because euler is missing blackboard gylphs. So, to summarize: 1. - (minus), is clearly a bug in ConTeXt. 2. \colonequals is a bug in ConTeXt's definition. We should be using the glyph from the font anyways and falling back only if the glyph is missing. 3. \mapsto glyph is missing from lmmath and asana. We need to fall back to composed glyphs. 4. \reals is working fine. The shape of the glyph in lmmath is unusual, but that should be a font issue rather than a context issue. Aditya [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 485 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: A bug in latin modern fonts? 2012-02-04 17:49 ` Aditya Mahajan @ 2012-02-04 18:18 ` Khaled Hosny 2012-02-04 20:03 ` Hans Hagen 1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Khaled Hosny @ 2012-02-04 18:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On Sat, Feb 04, 2012 at 12:49:41PM -0500, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > On Sat, 4 Feb 2012, Janne Junnila wrote: > > >On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Janne Junnila <janne.junnila@gmail.com> wrote: > >>Hi! > >> > >>The following example seems to have some troubles with the latin modern fonts: > >> > >>\starttext > >> > >>The function $f \colon \reals \to \reals$ is given by $x \mapsto x - 3$. > >> > >>\stoptext > >> > >>The colon is printed fine, but the blackboard bold Rs don't look > >>correct. The \mapsto symbol is missing and there's a hyphen instead of > >>minus. > >> > >>Are others having the same issue? I tried to do a fresh install, but > >>the problem persisted. There were some messages like > >> > >>fonts > otf loading > skipping cyclic reference U+00028 in > >>math variant U+00028 > >> > >>during compiling. I don't know if they are related to the problem. > > >Hi, > > > >I would like to my previous message that also Asana-Math seems to have problems. > > > >\setupbodyfont[asana] > >\starttext > > > >The function $f \colon \reals \to \reals$ is given by $x \mapsto x - > >3$. Its derivative is > >$f'(x) = 1$. > > > >\stoptext > > > >In the above the ' in f'(x) looks wrong and there's hyphen instead of > >minus at x - 3. > >The problems arise in the current standalone, the latest stable one > >worked OK at least > >for the latin modern fonts. > > The reference implementatation for math handling is cambria. With cambria > $f'(x)$ and $\mapsto$ work fine. But $a-b$ gives text minus, and $a > \colonequals b$ gives an error. > > @Hans and Khaled: Any idea why this is happening? > > \starttext > \setupbodyfont[cambria] > $a-b$ % text minus > $a \colonequals b$ % error > \stoptext > > $f'(x)$ works fine with cambria and xits, but is placed low with > asana. My guess is that this is the font's fault; with asana $f^{'}$ > works fine. The same "bug" is also present with LMmath. Looks like ‘ssty’ is not applied to script and scriptscript fonts, Cambria and XITS can go away with it not applied since the default prime glyphs is raised and small, but Asana (and I think Latin Modern Math) primes won't look OK without this feature applied. Regards, Khaled ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: A bug in latin modern fonts? 2012-02-04 17:49 ` Aditya Mahajan 2012-02-04 18:18 ` Khaled Hosny @ 2012-02-04 20:03 ` Hans Hagen 2012-02-04 21:20 ` Aditya Mahajan 1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2012-02-04 20:03 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users On 4-2-2012 18:49, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > 2. \colonequals is a bug in ConTeXt's definition. We should be using the > glyph from the font anyways and falling back only if the glyph is missing. Ah, i messed that one up ... I'll fix it. But anyway, it looks like I have to start on making a a nice library of composed glyphs Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: A bug in latin modern fonts? 2012-02-04 20:03 ` Hans Hagen @ 2012-02-04 21:20 ` Aditya Mahajan 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2012-02-04 21:20 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Hans Hagen; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1: Type: TEXT/PLAIN, Size: 825 bytes --] On Sat, 4 Feb 2012, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 4-2-2012 18:49, Aditya Mahajan wrote: > >> 2. \colonequals is a bug in ConTeXt's definition. We should be using the >> glyph from the font anyways and falling back only if the glyph is missing. > > Ah, i messed that one up ... I'll fix it. > > But anyway, it looks like I have to start on making a a nice library of > composed glyphs The following mapping in char-def.lua should take care of remapping - (0x002D) to \minus (0x2212), but it is not working. { adobename="hyphen", category="pd", cjkwd="na", description="HYPHEN-MINUS", direction="es", linebreak="hy", mathsymbol=0x2212, unicodeslot=0x002D, }, The attached patch to math-map.lua can force the remapping, but it will be nicer if the mathsymbol in char-def.lua worked correctly. Aditya [-- Attachment #2: Type: TEXT/PLAIN, Size: 1119 bytes --] --- /home/adityam/Software/context-pkgbuild/src/tex/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-map.lua 2011-09-14 06:34:53.000000000 -0400 +++ /opt/context-minimals/texmf-context/tex/context/base/math-map.lua 2012-02-04 16:13:16.000000000 -0500 @@ -128,7 +128,7 @@ [0x03F4]=0x03F4, [0x03F5]=0x03F5, }, symbols = { - [0x2202]=0x2202, [0x2207]=0x2207, + [0x002d]=0x2212, [0x2202]=0x2202, [0x2207]=0x2207, }, } @@ -160,7 +160,7 @@ [0x03F4]=0x1D6F3, [0x03F5]=0x1D716, }, symbols = { - [0x2202]=0x1D715, [0x2207]=0x1D6FB, + [0x002d]=0x2212, [0x2202]=0x1D715, [0x2207]=0x1D6FB, }, } @@ -185,7 +185,7 @@ [0x03F4]=0x1D6B9, [0x03F5]=0x1D6DC, }, symbols = { - [0x2202]=0x1D6DB, [0x2207]=0x1D6C1, + [0x002d]=0x2212, [0x2202]=0x1D6DB, [0x2207]=0x1D6C1, }, } @@ -210,7 +210,7 @@ [0x03F4]=0x1D72D, [0x03F5]=0x1D750, }, symbols = { - [0x2202]=0x1D74F, [0x2207]=0x1D735, + [0x002d]=0x2212, [0x2202]=0x1D74F, [0x2207]=0x1D735, }, } [-- Attachment #3: Type: text/plain, Size: 485 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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