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* index for Japanese alphabet
@ 2012-04-02  9:01 S Barmeier
  2012-04-07 15:03 ` Hans Hagen
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From: S Barmeier @ 2012-04-02  9:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi,

I would like to include an index with Japanese terms, ordered according
to the Japanese alphabet.

I can say \index[kanji]{漢字} for an entry under K. For my Japanese
index I imagine \index[かんじ]{漢字} to place an entry under か. Is
something like this possible?

The Japanese alphabet fits (almost) into a 5x10 table. Depending on the
size of the index, it is customary to order an index either by column
only (for a smaller index) or by table entry (top-to-bottom,
right-to-left). I'd be happy with either, although the smaller one will
probably suffice for my purposes...

Any help on how to implement this?

Many thanks, as always,
Severin
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* Re: index for Japanese alphabet
  2012-04-02  9:01 index for Japanese alphabet S Barmeier
@ 2012-04-07 15:03 ` Hans Hagen
  2012-04-09 11:26   ` S Barmeier
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2012-04-07 15:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 2-4-2012 11:01, S Barmeier wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would like to include an index with Japanese terms, ordered according
> to the Japanese alphabet.
>
> I can say \index[kanji]{漢字} for an entry under K. For my Japanese
> index I imagine \index[かんじ]{漢字} to place an entry under か. Is
> something like this possible?
>
> The Japanese alphabet fits (almost) into a 5x10 table. Depending on the
> size of the index, it is customary to order an index either by column
> only (for a smaller index) or by table entry (top-to-bottom,
> right-to-left). I'd be happy with either, although the smaller one will
> probably suffice for my purposes...
>
> Any help on how to implement this?

All that is needed is information ... you can have a look in the 
sort-lan.* files. I also suggest that you check with Dalyoung 
(haksan@me.com) as he keeps an eye on cjk issues. For instance korean 
sorting is supported, so japanese should ne possible as well.

Hans



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* Re: index for Japanese alphabet
  2012-04-07 15:03 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2012-04-09 11:26   ` S Barmeier
  2012-04-10 17:44     ` Hans Hagen
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From: S Barmeier @ 2012-04-09 11:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Hans Hagen; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users

On 04/08/2012 12:03 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 2-4-2012 11:01, S Barmeier wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I would like to include an index with Japanese terms, ordered according
>> to the Japanese alphabet.
>>
>> I can say \index[kanji]{漢字} for an entry under K. For my Japanese
>> index I imagine \index[かんじ]{漢字} to place an entry under か. Is
>> something like this possible?
>>
>> The Japanese alphabet fits (almost) into a 5x10 table. Depending on the
>> size of the index, it is customary to order an index either by column
>> only (for a smaller index) or by table entry (top-to-bottom,
>> right-to-left). I'd be happy with either, although the smaller one will
>> probably suffice for my purposes...
>>
>> Any help on how to implement this?
> 
> All that is needed is information ... you can have a look in the
> sort-lan.* files. I also suggest that you check with Dalyoung
> (haksan@me.com) as he keeps an eye on cjk issues. For instance korean
> sorting is supported, so japanese should ne possible as well.
> 
> Hans
> 
> 
> 
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The ordering would be ka-i ga-i ka-n ga-n
The rule "i before n" is stronger than the rule "ka before ga". I guess
this is the same in, say, German, where 'essen' should come before
'Essen', but 'Essbarkeiten' before both of them, "e before E" being the
weakest ordering rule...

Is this the use of

local cs,  CS  = utfchar(replacementoffset + 1),
utfchar(replacementoffset + 11)

in sort-lan.lua?

Once I know how to enable a particular sorting pattern for a register I
can probably figure it out by myself. How would I do that?

Best,
Severin

--- Japanese

definitions["jp"] = {
    replacements = {
        { "ぁ", "あ" }, { "ぃ", "い" },
        { "ぅ", "う" }, { "ぇ", "え" },
        { "ぉ", "お" }, { "っ", "つ" },
        { "ゃ", "や" }, { "ゅ", "ゆ" },
        { "ょ", "よ" },
    },
    entries = {
        ["あ"] = "あ", ["い"] = "い", ["う"] = "う", ["え"] = "え", ["
お"] = "お",
        ["か"] = "か", ["き"] = "き", ["く"] = "く", ["け"] = "け", ["
こ"] = "こ",
        ["さ"] = "さ", ["し"] = "し", ["す"] = "す", ["せ"] = "せ", ["
そ"] = "そ",
        ["た"] = "た", ["ち"] = "ち", ["つ"] = "つ", ["て"] = "て", ["
と"] = "と",
        ["な"] = "な", ["に"] = "に", ["ぬ"] = "ぬ", ["ね"] = "ね", ["
の"] = "の",
        ["は"] = "は", ["ひ"] = "ひ", ["ふ"] = "ふ", ["へ"] = "へ", ["
ほ"] = "ほ",
        ["ま"] = "ま", ["み"] = "み", ["む"] = "む", ["め"] = "め", ["
も"] = "も",
        ["や"] = "や", ["ゆ"] = "ゆ", ["よ"] = "よ",
        ["ら"] = "ら", ["り"] = "り", ["る"] = "る", ["れ"] = "れ", ["
ろ"] = "ろ",
        ["わ"] = "わ", ["ゐ"] = "ゐ", ["ゑ"] = "ゑ", ["を"] = "を", ["
ん"] = "ん",
    },
    orders = {
        "あ", "い", "う", "え", "お", "か", "き", "く", "け", "こ",
        "さ", "し", "す", "せ", "そ", "た", "ち", "つ", "て", "と",
        "な", "に", "ぬ", "ね", "の", "は", "ひ", "ふ", "へ", "ほ",
        "ま", "み", "む", "め", "も", "や", "ゆ", "よ",
        "ら", "り", "る", "れ", "ろ", "わ", "ゐ", "ゑ", "を", "ん",
    }
}
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* Re: index for Japanese alphabet
  2012-04-09 11:26   ` S Barmeier
@ 2012-04-10 17:44     ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2012-04-10 17:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 9-4-2012 13:26, S Barmeier wrote:

> Once I know how to enable a particular sorting pattern for a register I
> can probably figure it out by myself. How would I do that?

\setupregister[index][language=jp]


> Best,
> Severin
>
> --- Japanese
>
> definitions["jp"] = {
>      replacements = {
>          { "ぁ", "あ" }, { "ぃ", "い" },
>          { "ぅ", "う" }, { "ぇ", "え" },
>          { "ぉ", "お" }, { "っ", "つ" },
>          { "ゃ", "や" }, { "ゅ", "ゆ" },
>          { "ょ", "よ" },
>      },
>      entries = {
>          ["あ"] = "あ", ["い"] = "い", ["う"] = "う", ["え"] = "え", ["
> お"] = "お",
>          ["か"] = "か", ["き"] = "き", ["く"] = "く", ["け"] = "け", ["
> こ"] = "こ",
>          ["さ"] = "さ", ["し"] = "し", ["す"] = "す", ["せ"] = "せ", ["
> そ"] = "そ",
>          ["た"] = "た", ["ち"] = "ち", ["つ"] = "つ", ["て"] = "て", ["
> と"] = "と",
>          ["な"] = "な", ["に"] = "に", ["ぬ"] = "ぬ", ["ね"] = "ね", ["
> の"] = "の",
>          ["は"] = "は", ["ひ"] = "ひ", ["ふ"] = "ふ", ["へ"] = "へ", ["
> ほ"] = "ほ",
>          ["ま"] = "ま", ["み"] = "み", ["む"] = "む", ["め"] = "め", ["
> も"] = "も",
>          ["や"] = "や", ["ゆ"] = "ゆ", ["よ"] = "よ",
>          ["ら"] = "ら", ["り"] = "り", ["る"] = "る", ["れ"] = "れ", ["
> ろ"] = "ろ",
>          ["わ"] = "わ", ["ゐ"] = "ゐ", ["ゑ"] = "ゑ", ["を"] = "を", ["
> ん"] = "ん",
>      },
>      orders = {
>          "あ", "い", "う", "え", "お", "か", "き", "く", "け", "こ",
>          "さ", "し", "す", "せ", "そ", "た", "ち", "つ", "て", "と",
>          "な", "に", "ぬ", "ね", "の", "は", "ひ", "ふ", "へ", "ほ",
>          "ま", "み", "む", "め", "も", "や", "ゆ", "よ",
>          "ら", "り", "る", "れ", "ろ", "わ", "ゐ", "ゑ", "を", "ん",
>      }
> }


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