* doublesided PDF - first and last page singlesided
@ 2012-04-15 8:01 Jan Heinen
2012-04-15 18:34 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
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From: Jan Heinen @ 2012-04-15 8:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hello, someone here on a sunday?
I want to have a PDF-screen-version of my booklet:
The book has 8 pages including the coverpages.
The result should look like this: (first and last page NOT
doublesided)
1 first page of the pdf (coverpage)
2 3 second
4 5 third
6 7 fourth
8 fifth (coverpage)
With the following commands I get the wrong result:
\setuppapersize[A5][A4,landscape]% A5 wird auf A4 gedruckt
\setuparranging[2SIDE]
1 2 first page of the pdf
3 4 second
5 6 third
7 8 fourth
Have a nice weekend
Jannis
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* Re: doublesided PDF - first and last page singlesided
2012-04-15 8:01 doublesided PDF - first and last page singlesided Jan Heinen
@ 2012-04-15 18:34 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
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From: Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2012-04-15 18:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 04/15/2012 10:01 AM, Jan Heinen wrote:
> Hello, someone here on a sunday?
>
> I want to have a PDF-screen-version of my booklet:
> The book has 8 pages including the coverpages.
>
> The result should look like this: (first and last page NOT doublesided)
>
> 1 first page of the pdf (coverpage)
> 2 3 second
> 4 5 third
> 6 7 fourth
> 8 fifth (coverpage)
>
>
> With the following commands I get the wrong result:
>
> \setuppapersize[A5][A4,landscape]% A5 wird auf A4 gedruckt
> \setuparranging[2SIDE]
>
> 1 2 first page of the pdf
> 3 4 second
> 5 6 third
> 7 8 fourth
>
>
> Have a nice weekend
> Jannis
Willi is the resident imposition expert, but in his absence: I don't
think this is a standard imposition scheme, hence ConTeXt doesn't have
any predefined setup for it (I'm not quite sure I understand what it is
you're trying to accomplish). So I think you will have to add the
desired empty page manually.
On a wild guess: if you want different versions for print and for
screen, you can use modes (that's what I do for some of my stuff). in
pseudo-code:
\startmode[booklet]
\setuppapersize[A5][A4,landscape]
\setuparranging[2SIDE]
\stopmode
\starttext
First page
\startmode[booklet]
\null \page
\stopmode
etc.
\stoptext
When you run with
context --mode=booklet --arrange
you'll get the desired booklet; otherwise you get a normal pdf.
Thomas
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* Re: doublesided PDF - first and last page singlesided
2012-04-17 11:02 Jan Heinen
@ 2012-04-17 11:32 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2012-04-17 11:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 17.04.2012 um 13:02 schrieb Jan Heinen:
> Hello,
>
> someone, who understood what I want to achieve?
>
> http://www.imagebanana.com/view/shoayek5/onlinebook.jpg
>
> Or more questions?
That’s not possible with the normal imposition mechanism because you can’t set a different paper size for the first/last page. What you can do is to use a second document where include each page as described by Aditya.
Wolfgang
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* Re: doublesided PDF - first and last page singlesided
@ 2012-04-17 11:02 Jan Heinen
2012-04-17 11:32 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Jan Heinen @ 2012-04-17 11:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
Hello,
someone, who understood what I want to achieve?
http://www.imagebanana.com/view/shoayek5/onlinebook.jpg
Or more questions?
Regards
Janis
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Re: [NTG-context] doublesided PDF - first and last page
singlesided
Jan Heinen
Mon, 16 Apr 2012 04:29:20 -0700
Hello,
some were guessing, what I want to achieve.
I made a screenshot for you:
http://www.imagebanana.com/view/shoayek5/onlinebook.jpg
It ist the online-version of a printed book. For printing it
was ok to have one bookpage on one sheet of paper. For the
online-version I want to have two bookpages on one sheet of
paper
but the coverpage should be alone on one sheet of paper.
The online-version is a PDF ... no html.
"sheet of paper" is of course only virtualy meant ... it is
online
The difficulty is that there a bunch of (hyperlinked)
cross-references in the book ... so people can use the pdf
interactively.
Without this I could put the pages manualy together.
Hope that now you know what I want to do.
And I am hoping very much for a solution ...
Regards
Jannis
Regards
Jannis
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* Re: doublesided PDF - first and last page singlesided
@ 2012-04-16 11:29 Jan Heinen
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From: Jan Heinen @ 2012-04-16 11:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
Hello,
some were guessing, what I want to achieve.
I made a screenshot for you:
http://www.imagebanana.com/view/shoayek5/onlinebook.jpg
It ist the online-version of a printed book. For printing it
was ok to have one bookpage on one sheet of paper.
For the online-version I want to have two bookpages on one
sheet of paper
but the coverpage should be alone on one sheet of paper.
The online-version is a PDF ... no html.
"sheet of paper" is of course only virtualy meant ... it is
online
The difficulty is that there a bunch of (hyperlinked)
cross-references in the book ... so people can use the pdf
interactively.
Without this I could put the pages manualy together.
Hope that now you know what I want to do.
And I am hoping very much for a solution ...
Regards
Jannis
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* Re: doublesided PDF - first and last page singlesided
2012-04-16 6:48 ` Aditya Mahajan
@ 2012-04-16 7:52 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
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From: Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2012-04-16 7:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 04/16/2012 08:48 AM, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
>
>> You should make an example yourself, I'm still guessing what it is you
>> want to achieve. I'm not sure what a "pdf-version for the internet" is
>> - pdf is not a web-based format?
>
> My guess is that that OP wants to display the pdf the same way Acrobat
> reader displays a pdf in double-sided document in "two up" mode. For
> example, open any of the ConTeXt "This Way" magazines in two-up mode.
Ah OK, I see what you mean. But isn't that dependent on which pdf viewer
you use to view the file? Even more so when you view it from within a
browser which may or may not have a plugin for displaying pdf?
Thomas
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* Re: doublesided PDF - first and last page singlesided
2012-04-16 6:35 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
@ 2012-04-16 6:48 ` Aditya Mahajan
2012-04-16 7:52 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
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From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2012-04-16 6:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Mon, 16 Apr 2012, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> You should make an example yourself, I'm still guessing what it is you want
> to achieve. I'm not sure what a "pdf-version for the internet" is - pdf is
> not a web-based format?
My guess is that that OP wants to display the pdf the same way Acrobat
reader displays a pdf in double-sided document in "two up" mode. For
example, open any of the ConTeXt "This Way" magazines in two-up mode.
Aditya
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* Re: doublesided PDF - first and last page singlesided
2012-04-15 22:17 Jan Heinen
2012-04-15 22:29 ` Aditya Mahajan
@ 2012-04-16 6:35 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2012-04-16 6:48 ` Aditya Mahajan
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From: Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2012-04-16 6:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 04/16/2012 12:17 AM, Jan Heinen wrote:
> I was lucky to get a fast answer - but with your code I don't get the
> right result:
>
> -- start your code
>
> \startmode[booklet]
> \setuppapersize[A5][A4,landscape]
> \setuparranging[2SIDE]
> \stopmode
> \starttext
> First page
> \startmode[booklet]
> \null \page
> \stopmode
> etc.
> \stoptext
>
> Thomas
>
> -- stop
>
> With your code I get:
>
> 1 2 first page of the pdf
> 3 4 second
> 5 6 third
> 7 8 fourth
>
>
>
> But I want to get:
>
> 1 first page of the pdf (coverpage)
> 2 3 second
> 4 5 third
> 6 7 fourth
> 8 fifth (coverpage)
>
>
> I know how to use with modes - but the answer must be an other.
No, I get the result you want with my code.
\startmode[booklet]
\setuppapersize[A5][A4,landscape]
\setuparranging[2SIDE]
\stopmode
\starttext
One
\page
\startmode[booklet]
\null \page
\stopmode
Two
\page
Three
\page
Four
\page
Five
\page
Six
\page
Seven
\page
Eight
\stoptext
You should make an example yourself, I'm still guessing what it is you
want to achieve. I'm not sure what a "pdf-version for the internet" is -
pdf is not a web-based format?
Thomas
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* Re: doublesided PDF - first and last page singlesided
2012-04-15 22:29 ` Aditya Mahajan
@ 2012-04-15 22:34 ` Aditya Mahajan
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From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2012-04-15 22:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Sun, 15 Apr 2012, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> If you don't mind creating another file to convert a given double sided pdf
> into the above format, you can use the following (pseudo code, untested, and
> might have typos)
You can also create a mtx-context-doublesided.lua script that takes the
filename from command line and does all the processing at the lua level.
See mtx-context-*.lua in $TEXMF/tex/context/base/ for examples.
Aditya
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* Re: doublesided PDF - first and last page singlesided
2012-04-15 22:17 Jan Heinen
@ 2012-04-15 22:29 ` Aditya Mahajan
2012-04-15 22:34 ` Aditya Mahajan
2012-04-16 6:35 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
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From: Aditya Mahajan @ 2012-04-15 22:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Mon, 16 Apr 2012, Jan Heinen wrote:
> I was lucky to get a fast answer - but with your code I don't get the right
> result:
>
> -- start your code
>
> \startmode[booklet]
> \setuppapersize[A5][A4,landscape]
> \setuparranging[2SIDE]
> \stopmode
> \starttext
> First page
> \startmode[booklet]
> \null \page
> \stopmode
> etc.
> \stoptext
>
> Thomas
>
> -- stop
>
> With your code I get:
>
> 1 2 first page of the pdf
> 3 4 second
> 5 6 third
> 7 8 fourth
>
>
>
> But I want to get:
>
> 1 first page of the pdf (coverpage)
> 2 3 second
> 4 5 third
> 6 7 fourth
> 8 fifth (coverpage)
>
>
> I know how to use with modes - but the answer must be an other.
>
> Maybe I have to explain it more clearly:
>
> on the first PDF-Page (A5) there should be only the cover-page (page 1)
> \setuppapersize[A5][A5]
>
> \setuparranging[1SIDE]%<- I don't know how to write it - nothing was
> working
>
>
> On the second PDF-Page there should be page 2 and page 3
> \setuppapersize[A5][A4,landscape]
>
> \setuparranging[2SIDE]
>
>
> It must be a problem lot's of people have when they make a book with ConTeXt
> and want to make a second PDF-version for the Internet.
If you don't mind creating another file to convert a given double sided
pdf into the above format, you can use the following (pseudo code,
untested, and might have typos)
get number of pages in the pdf
\getfiguredimensions[filename]
\edef\NOfPages{\noffigurepages}
insert the first page
\startTEXpage[height=(A5 height}, width=(A5 width)]
\externalfigure[filename][page=1]
\stopTEXpage
loop and insert all but the last page (you may have to test if the number
of pages are odd or even and use \numexpr(\NOfPages - 1) to find the last
but one page:
\dostepwiserecurse{2}{2}{\LastButOnePage}
{ \startTEXpage[height=(A5 height), width=(A4 height)]
\expanded{\externalfigure[filename][page=\recurselevel]}%
\expanded{\externalfigure[filename][page=\numexpr\recurselevel+1\relax]}%
\stopTEXpage
}
If the number of pages is even, insert last page.
Aditya
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* Re: doublesided PDF - first and last page singlesided
@ 2012-04-15 22:17 Jan Heinen
2012-04-15 22:29 ` Aditya Mahajan
2012-04-16 6:35 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
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From: Jan Heinen @ 2012-04-15 22:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
I was lucky to get a fast answer - but with your code I
don't get the right result:
-- start your code
\startmode[booklet]
\setuppapersize[A5][A4,landscape]
\setuparranging[2SIDE]
\stopmode
\starttext
First page
\startmode[booklet]
\null \page
\stopmode
etc.
\stoptext
Thomas
-- stop
With your code I get:
1 2 first page of the pdf
3 4 second
5 6 third
7 8 fourth
But I want to get:
1 first page of the pdf (coverpage)
2 3 second
4 5 third
6 7 fourth
8 fifth (coverpage)
I know how to use with modes - but the answer must be an other.
Maybe I have to explain it more clearly:
on the first PDF-Page (A5) there should be only the
cover-page (page 1)
\setuppapersize[A5][A5]
\setuparranging[1SIDE]%<- I don't know how to write it - nothing was working
On the second PDF-Page there should be page 2 and page 3
\setuppapersize[A5][A4,landscape]
\setuparranging[2SIDE]
It must be a problem lot's of people have when they make a
book with ConTeXt
and want to make a second PDF-version for the Internet.
Regards
Jannis
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