From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/75840 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Rolf Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Rendering differences between PDF viewers Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:08:47 +0200 Message-ID: <4F98218F.2080809@gmx.net> References: <1334469628.3748.29.camel@kip-laptop> <4F8AF085.6070208@wxs.nl> <1334619889.28437.1.camel@kip-laptop> <4F8D138B.3030605@wxs.nl> <1334645858.2011.5.camel@kip-laptop> <4F8D3D9B.1040406@gmx.net> <4F8D4216.4060809@wxs.nl> <4F8D4A74.8030404@gmx.net> <1334710198.2011.40.camel@kip-laptop> <4F8E6F65.50002@wxs.nl> <4F8EA1A2.3030806@gmx.net> <4F90587C.4060109@wxs.nl> <4F91154D.3020407@gmx.net> <4F969FB5.7080806@wxs.nl> <4F96ACAF.1030405@gmx.net> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1335370143 13835 80.91.229.3 (25 Apr 2012 16:09:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 16:09:03 +0000 (UTC) To: ntg-context@ntg.nl, Hans Hagen , Kip Warner Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Apr 25 18:09:02 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SN4lz-0003iZ-Vd for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:08:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA254101E2; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:08:54 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Nc6j5r+Or9Sr; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:08:53 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E9D3101DF; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:08:53 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E767101DF for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:08:52 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id qV9zYJi-bxWn for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:08:50 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter1-til.mf.surf.net (filter1-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.217]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8927D101CF for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:08:50 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.22]) by filter1-til.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with SMTP id q3PG8n0D002465 for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:08:49 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 25 Apr 2012 16:08:49 -0000 Original-Received: from ip-178-200-48-212.unitymediagroup.de (EHLO [192.168.178.3]) [178.200.48.212] by mail.gmx.net (mp072) with SMTP; 25 Apr 2012 18:08:49 +0200 X-Authenticated: #24293357 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18H1mRSZF8HigIScCHpoRIo4RRZRVXrtHno055DRV Ry4PW6yrEohJmZ User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120420 Thunderbird/12.0 In-Reply-To: <4F96ACAF.1030405@gmx.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.1 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=213.165.64.22; country=DE; latitude=51.0000; longitude=9.0000; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=51.0000,9.0000&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0RH2g8NlQ - dc48bd500179 - 20120425 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.217 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:75840 Archived-At: Am 24.04.2012 15:37, schrieb Peter Rolf: > Am 24.04.2012 14:42, schrieb Hans Hagen: >> On 20-4-2012 09:50, Peter Rolf wrote: >>> Am 19.04.2012 20:25, schrieb Hans Hagen: >>>> On 18-4-2012 13:12, Peter Rolf wrote: >>>> >>>>> I understand that there is no easy or general solution for this. >>>>> But on the other hand is PNG currently the only way to use transparent >>>>> bitmaps in TeX. The usage of transparent PNG is quite common, so >>>>> this is >>>>> a general problem that should be solved. >>>>> >>>>> I like your idea of automatically adding such groups, if the user >>>>> declares the color space beforehand. Also no answer for the spot color >>>>> problem, but as long as the user does not limit the used color spaces, >>>>> things can stay as they are. Just my 2 cents. >>>> >>>> so first wen need to test with mixed color space documents and such >>>> hacks to see what happens (as we don't want invalid documents) >>>> >>> >>> ok. i don't expect any formal problems, only more or less ugly color >>> shifts. anyhow, we will see. >>> >>> needs some thinking about proper examples (colored text, vector and >>> pixel based graphics in RGB,CMYK,Spot)... >>> i think 'draw ColorCircle(..)' is a perfect candidate for the complete >>> graphic part. one page with transparency and also one page without any >>> transparency (the page group shouldn't kick in). later on we can add >>> some icc profiles to spice things up. >>> >>> i'll start to make a test document on the weekend then. if i have missed >>> something important, let me know. any additional ideas are also >>> welcome :-) >> >> as a prelude, the next beta will have >> >> \setupcolors[pagecolormodel=rgb] % gray rgb cmyk auto none >> >> and issue a warning when no model is set when using transparencies >> > > nice. a test document with mixed color spaces is also in work and should > be ready in a few days. > a first version of the test files can be found here (7z, LZMA2 compression) https://www.wuala.com/indiego/public/?key=caiCGLasLFmJ i have tested four versions so far. 1. cmyk (default) page group 2. rgb page group 3. cmyk page group + pdf/x 4. rgb page group + pdf/x no general problems so far (only spot color related) Peter ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________