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charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Hello, > > It frequently happens to me that a new line in an output-document start= s just after a quotation mark. So I encounter lines in my ConTeX-created = .pdf like: > > "And the prince of Denmark spoke: ' > ?how weary, stale, flat, and unprofitable seem to me all the uses of th= is world!' " > > Its hard to say how often this happens but I'd say its roughly every 50= quotations. > > A minimal example to see the problem in action: (also onhttp://pastebin= .com/cEMiGZju) > > \mainlanguage [de] > \setuppapersize[A4] > > \setuplayout[width=3D6cm] > > \setupquotation > [1] > [left=3D", right=3D"] > > \setupquote > [1] > [left=3D", right=3D"] > > \starttext > > \language[de] > Bereiche der\quotation{waren transparent, so dass} man auf. \quotation{= die darunterliegenden} Grafiken sehen konnte. \quotation{Die Paletten kon= nten mit der} nicht-dominanten \quotation{Hand bewegt werden} %gibberish = content > > \stoptext > > I'm using LiveTex 2011/LuaTex typeset but the problem can be reproduced= using the example code athttp://live.contextgarden.net/ and the "XeTeX"= -Setting. > > Is there any fix to this problem? >> You have to add \nobreak between the quotation mark and the text, e.g. >> >> \setupdelimitedtext[quotation][1][left=3D?\nobreak] >> >> but I can give you better answer when you tell use why do you want to = change >> the delimiters as shown above because ? and ? are the default symbols = for german >> when you use \quotation. >> >> Wolfgang > Hello, Thanks! That did the job as far as I can see. I did set the Quotation Marks manually since I considered to change them=20 to Guillemets (?=BB =AB) later. Regards, Jan --------------010608090806040600060502 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 
Hello,

It frequently happens to me that a new line in an output-document starts just after a quotation mark. So I encounter lines in my ConTeX-created .pdf like:

"And the prince of Denmark spoke: '
?how weary, stale, flat, and unprofitable seem to me all the uses of this world!' "

Its hard to say how often this happens but I'd say its roughly every 50 quotations.

A minimal example to see the problem in action: (also on http://pastebin.com/cEMiGZju)

\mainlanguage [de]
\setuppapersize[A4]

\setuplayout[width=6cm]

\setupquotation
[1]
[left=„, right=“]

\setupquote
[1]
[left=„, right=“]

\starttext

\language[de]
Bereiche der\quotation{waren transparent, so dass} man auf. \quotation{die darunterliegenden} Grafiken sehen konnte. \quotation{Die Paletten konnten mit der} nicht-dominanten \quotation{Hand bewegt werden} %gibberish content

\stoptext

I'm using LiveTex 2011/LuaTex typeset but the problem can be reproduced using the example code at http://live.contextgarden.net/ and the "XeTeX"-Setting.

Is there any fix to this problem?

You have to add \nobreak between the quotation mark and the text, e.g.

  \setupdelimitedtext[quotation][1][left=?\nobreak]

but I can give you better answer when you tell use why do you want to change
the delimiters as shown above because ? and ? are the default symbols for german
when you use \quotation.

Wolfgang
Hello,
Thanks! That did the job as far as I can see.
I did set the Quotation Marks manually since I considered to change them to Guillemets (» «) later.

Regards,
 Jan
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