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* Broken Nightly 2012.07.04
@ 2012-07-05  1:12 Kip Warner
  2012-07-05  8:04 ` Hans Hagen
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Hey list,

Nightly 2012.07.04 appears to break when compiling my book. I see the
following:

! Undefined control sequence.
\math_arrows_construct_single ...s \p_mathspacing 
                                                  \endcsname
\p_mathspacing ...
\math_arrows_handle_finalize ...7}{#1}{#4}{#8}{#9}
                                                  }\else \mathrel
{\math_arr...
\mathematics ...mmode #1\else \normalstartimath #1
                                                  \normalstopimath \fi 
\445>i:gives ...e \mathematics {\xrightarrow {}{}}
                                                  \enspace 
l.11 \chemicalgives
                   
\inlinechemical ...emicals.inline(\!!bs #1\!!es )}
                                                  }
l.128 \inlinechemical{CO_2,+,H_2,+,->,H_2O,+,CO}
                                                
E
? You want to edit file Terms_and_Concepts/Terms_and_Concepts.tex at
line 11

The file in question is located here:

<https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~avaneya/avaneya/trunk/view/head:/Documentation/Contributors/Handbook/Terms_and_Concepts/Terms_and_Concepts.tex>

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* Re: Broken Nightly 2012.07.04
  2012-07-05  1:12 Broken Nightly 2012.07.04 Kip Warner
@ 2012-07-05  8:04 ` Hans Hagen
  2012-07-06  2:56   ` Kip Warner
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2012-07-05  8:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 5-7-2012 03:12, Kip Warner wrote:
> Hey list,
>
> Nightly 2012.07.04 appears to break when compiling my book. I see the
> following:
>
> ! Undefined control sequence.
> \math_arrows_construct_single ...s \p_mathspacing

\p_mathspacing => \p_math_spacing

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* Re: Broken Nightly 2012.07.04
  2012-07-05  8:04 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2012-07-06  2:56   ` Kip Warner
  2012-07-06  5:32     ` luigi scarso
  2012-07-06  7:21     ` Hans Hagen
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On Thu, 2012-07-05 at 10:04 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
> \p_mathspacing => \p_math_spacing

I patched math-arr.mkiv, but I am still getting the same error. I don't
know why since I replaced all instances of \p_mathspacing with
\p_math_spacing and deleted the cache in ~/.texmf-var/.

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* Re: Broken Nightly 2012.07.04
  2012-07-06  2:56   ` Kip Warner
@ 2012-07-06  5:32     ` luigi scarso
  2012-07-06 21:06       ` Kip Warner
  2012-07-06  7:21     ` Hans Hagen
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On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 4:56 AM, Kip Warner <kip@thevertigo.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 2012-07-05 at 10:04 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
> > \p_mathspacing => \p_math_spacing
>
> I patched math-arr.mkiv, but I am still getting the same error. I don't
> know why since I replaced all instances of \p_mathspacing with
> \p_math_spacing and deleted the cache in ~/.texmf-var/.
>
> Do you rebuild the format ?
-- 
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* Re: Broken Nightly 2012.07.04
  2012-07-06  2:56   ` Kip Warner
  2012-07-06  5:32     ` luigi scarso
@ 2012-07-06  7:21     ` Hans Hagen
  2012-07-06 21:05       ` Kip Warner
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2012-07-06  7:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kip Warner; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users

On 6-7-2012 04:56, Kip Warner wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-07-05 at 10:04 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> \p_mathspacing => \p_math_spacing
>
> I patched math-arr.mkiv, but I am still getting the same error. I don't
> know why since I replaced all instances of \p_mathspacing with
> \p_math_spacing and deleted the cache in ~/.texmf-var/.

context --make en


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* Re: Broken Nightly 2012.07.04
  2012-07-06  7:21     ` Hans Hagen
@ 2012-07-06 21:05       ` Kip Warner
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On Fri, 2012-07-06 at 09:21 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
> context --make en

Like I said, I already cleared the cache in ~/.texmf-var/. But for safe
measure, I ran the aforementioned anyways after doing that too. Same
problem. 

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* Re: Broken Nightly 2012.07.04
  2012-07-06  5:32     ` luigi scarso
@ 2012-07-06 21:06       ` Kip Warner
  2012-07-06 21:25         ` Hans Hagen
  2012-07-07  4:16         ` Wolfgang Schuster
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On Fri, 2012-07-06 at 07:32 +0200, luigi scarso wrote:
> > Do you rebuild the format ?

I cleared the cache in ~/.texmf-var and ran context --make en (which
ConTeXt runs anyways after doing the former), but still same problem.

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* Re: Broken Nightly 2012.07.04
  2012-07-06 21:06       ` Kip Warner
@ 2012-07-06 21:25         ` Hans Hagen
  2012-07-06 21:59           ` Kip Warner
  2012-07-07  4:16         ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2012-07-06 21:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 6-7-2012 23:06, Kip Warner wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-07-06 at 07:32 +0200, luigi scarso wrote:
>>> Do you rebuild the format ?
>
> I cleared the cache in ~/.texmf-var and ran context --make en (which
> ConTeXt runs anyways after doing the former), but still same problem.

is there a minimal example? 
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* Re: Broken Nightly 2012.07.04
  2012-07-06 21:25         ` Hans Hagen
@ 2012-07-06 21:59           ` Kip Warner
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On Fri, 2012-07-06 at 23:25 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
> is there a minimal example? 

I'm not sure where it's bailing. The line it points to has nothing to do
with inline math or formulas. But alas, ConTeXt error messages are
usually totally useless in most cases. You could try just running make
on my book which you have and you'll see the same error.

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* Re: Broken Nightly 2012.07.04
  2012-07-06 21:06       ` Kip Warner
  2012-07-06 21:25         ` Hans Hagen
@ 2012-07-07  4:16         ` Wolfgang Schuster
  2012-07-07  4:26           ` Kip Warner
  2012-07-07  5:30           ` Kip Warner
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Am 06.07.2012 um 23:06 schrieb Kip Warner:

> On Fri, 2012-07-06 at 07:32 +0200, luigi scarso wrote:
>>> Do you rebuild the format ?
> 
> I cleared the cache in ~/.texmf-var and ran context --make en (which
> ConTeXt runs anyways after doing the former), but still same problem.

Do you have more than one installation of the context suite on your system
and you’re making the changes in the wrong tree (you can see the path
for the used files on the command line when you generate the format).

Wolfgang
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* Re: Broken Nightly 2012.07.04
  2012-07-07  4:16         ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2012-07-07  4:26           ` Kip Warner
  2012-07-07  5:30           ` Kip Warner
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  To: Wolfgang Schuster; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users


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On Sat, 2012-07-07 at 06:16 +0200, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Do you have more than one installation of the context suite on your system
> and you’re making the changes in the wrong tree (you can see the path
> for the used files on the command line when you generate the format).

I have as far as I know only one installation and that is the ConTeXt
debs from Adam's PPA. 

$ context --version

resolvers       | resolving | loading configuration file
'selfautodir:/share/texmf/web2c/contextcnf.lua'
resolvers       | resolving | loading configuration file
'/usr/share/texmf/web2c/contextcnf.lua'
mtx-context     | ConTeXt Process Management 0.60
mtx-context     |
mtx-context     | main context
file: /usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base/context.mkiv
mtx-context     | current version: 2012.07.04 23:48

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* Re: Broken Nightly 2012.07.04
  2012-07-07  4:16         ` Wolfgang Schuster
  2012-07-07  4:26           ` Kip Warner
@ 2012-07-07  5:30           ` Kip Warner
  2012-07-07 12:11             ` Hans Hagen
  2012-07-07 12:33             ` Hans Hagen
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Kip Warner @ 2012-07-07  5:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Wolfgang Schuster; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users


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On Sat, 2012-07-07 at 06:16 +0200, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Do you have more than one installation of the context suite on your system
> and you’re making the changes in the wrong tree (you can see the path
> for the used files on the command line when you generate the format).

Hey Wolfgang. I just upgraded my ConTeXt off of Adam's PPA to version
2012.07.06 22:37. This time I got a different error when I tried to
build the book:

! Extra \fi.
\page_otr_triggered_output_routine ...routine \fi 
                                                  
<output> ...ut \page_otr_triggered_output_routine 
                                                  \relax \the
\everyafterout...
l.42 
     
E
? You want to edit file Game_World/Navigation.tex at line 42


This is the file in question:

<https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~avaneya/avaneya/trunk/view/head:/Documentation/Contributors/Handbook/Game_World/Navigation.tex>

Doesn't look like there's anything (at all) of interest on said line.

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* Re: Broken Nightly 2012.07.04
  2012-07-07  5:30           ` Kip Warner
@ 2012-07-07 12:11             ` Hans Hagen
  2012-07-07 12:33             ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2012-07-07 12:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 7-7-2012 07:30, Kip Warner wrote:
> On Sat, 2012-07-07 at 06:16 +0200, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>> Do you have more than one installation of the context suite on your system
>> and you’re making the changes in the wrong tree (you can see the path
>> for the used files on the command line when you generate the format).
>
> Hey Wolfgang. I just upgraded my ConTeXt off of Adam's PPA to version
> 2012.07.06 22:37. This time I got a different error when I tried to
> build the book:
>
> ! Extra \fi.
> \page_otr_triggered_output_routine ...routine \fi

hard tp trace, a missing or extra fi

(you can run with \tracingall to see where it happens but that gives a 
huge log file)

Hans

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* Re: Broken Nightly 2012.07.04
  2012-07-07  5:30           ` Kip Warner
  2012-07-07 12:11             ` Hans Hagen
@ 2012-07-07 12:33             ` Hans Hagen
  2012-07-07 13:27               ` Hans Hagen
  2012-07-08  0:52               ` Kip Warner
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2012-07-07 12:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Kip Warner

On 7-7-2012 07:30, Kip Warner wrote:
> On Sat, 2012-07-07 at 06:16 +0200, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>> Do you have more than one installation of the context suite on your system
>> and you’re making the changes in the wrong tree (you can see the path
>> for the used files on the command line when you generate the format).
>

can you patch

\def\buff_verbatim_set_line_margin_indeed
 
{\hskip\doifoddpageelse{\typingparameter\c!oddmargin}{\typingparameter\c!evenmargin}\relax}


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* Re: Broken Nightly 2012.07.04
  2012-07-07 12:33             ` Hans Hagen
@ 2012-07-07 13:27               ` Hans Hagen
  2012-07-08  0:52               ` Kip Warner
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2012-07-07 13:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Kip Warner

On 7-7-2012 14:33, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 7-7-2012 07:30, Kip Warner wrote:
>> On Sat, 2012-07-07 at 06:16 +0200, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>>> Do you have more than one installation of the context suite on your
>>> system
>>> and you’re making the changes in the wrong tree (you can see the path
>>> for the used files on the command line when you generate the format).
>>

I found a few (after writing a - somewhat tricky - checker)

Hans

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* Re: Broken Nightly 2012.07.04
  2012-07-07 12:33             ` Hans Hagen
  2012-07-07 13:27               ` Hans Hagen
@ 2012-07-08  0:52               ` Kip Warner
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On Sat, 2012-07-07 at 14:33 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
> can you patch
> 
> \def\buff_verbatim_set_line_margin_indeed
>  
> {\hskip\doifoddpageelse{\typingparameter\c!oddmargin}{\typingparameter\c!evenmargin}\relax}

Sorry, are you talking to me or Wolfgang? By the way, tried today's
daily (2012.07.07) and same issue.

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2012-07-06 21:25         ` Hans Hagen
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2012-07-07  4:16         ` Wolfgang Schuster
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