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* \placeinitial to account for quotation mark
@ 2021-09-06 18:24 Thangalin via ntg-context
  2021-09-25 20:45 ` Thangalin via ntg-context
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From: Thangalin via ntg-context @ 2021-09-06 18:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi list,

The following example shows a lettrine that stylizes a quotation mark:

\setuphead[chapter][
  after={\placeinitial},
  page=no,
]
\starttext\chapter{Harriet Tubman}
"Every great dream begins with a dreamer. Always remember, you have within
you the strength, the patience, and the passion to reach for the stars to
change the world.\chapter{Eleanor Roosevelt}
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds
discuss people.\stoptext

Without changing the text itself, how would you make the lettrine stylize
the E in Every while making the quotation mark retain the body font (i.e.,
much smaller and hang to the left, possibly protruding into the margin)?

For reference: https://tex.stackexchange.com/q/609544/2148

Thank you!

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* Re: \placeinitial to account for quotation mark
  2021-09-06 18:24 \placeinitial to account for quotation mark Thangalin via ntg-context
@ 2021-09-25 20:45 ` Thangalin via ntg-context
  2021-09-26 10:27   ` Bruce Horrocks via ntg-context
  2021-09-26 16:53   ` Hans Hagen via ntg-context
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From: Thangalin via ntg-context @ 2021-09-25 20:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Henri Menke provided a partial solution:

\defineinitial[two][method={first,auto}]
\setuphead[chapter][
  after={\placeinitial[two]},
  page=no,
]

\starttext
\chapter{Harriet Tubman}
"Every great dream begins with a dreamer. Always remember, you have within
you the strength, the patience, and the passion to reach for the stars to
change the world.
\chapter{Eleanor Roosevelt}
Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds
discuss people.
\stoptext

However, the leading quotation mark is gobbled. Is there any generic way of
detecting a leading quotation mark while keeping initial caps on the first
character?

Thank you!

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* Re: \placeinitial to account for quotation mark
  2021-09-25 20:45 ` Thangalin via ntg-context
@ 2021-09-26 10:27   ` Bruce Horrocks via ntg-context
  2021-09-26 16:53   ` Hans Hagen via ntg-context
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From: Bruce Horrocks via ntg-context @ 2021-09-26 10:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> On 25 Sep 2021, at 21:45, Thangalin via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
> 
> Henri Menke provided a partial solution:
> 
> \defineinitial[two][method={first,auto}]
> \setuphead[chapter][
>   after={\placeinitial[two]},
>   page=no,
> ]
> 
> \starttext
> \chapter{Harriet Tubman}
> "Every great dream begins with a dreamer. Always remember, you have within
> you the strength, the patience, and the passion to reach for the stars to
> change the world.
> \chapter{Eleanor Roosevelt}
> Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds
> discuss people.
> \stoptext
> 
> However, the leading quotation mark is gobbled. Is there any generic way of detecting a leading quotation mark while keeping initial caps on the first character?
> 

Not really generic, and maybe not what you want, but there is this:

\chapter{Eleanor Roosevelt}
\setupinitial[text={"G}]
reat minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds
discuss people.

—
Bruce Horrocks
Hampshire, UK

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* Re: \placeinitial to account for quotation mark
  2021-09-25 20:45 ` Thangalin via ntg-context
  2021-09-26 10:27   ` Bruce Horrocks via ntg-context
@ 2021-09-26 16:53   ` Hans Hagen via ntg-context
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From: Hans Hagen via ntg-context @ 2021-09-26 16:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Thangalin via ntg-context; +Cc: Hans Hagen

On 9/25/2021 10:45 PM, Thangalin via ntg-context wrote:
> Henri Menke provided a partial solution:
> 
> \defineinitial[two][method={first,auto}]
> \setuphead[chapter][
>    after={\placeinitial[two]},
>    page=no,
> ]
> 
> \starttext
> \chapter{Harriet Tubman}
> "Every great dream begins with a dreamer. Always remember, you have within
> you the strength, the patience, and the passion to reach for the stars to
> change the world.
> \chapter{Eleanor Roosevelt}
> Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds
> discuss people.
> \stoptext
> 
> However, the leading quotation mark is gobbled. Is there any generic way 
> of detecting a leading quotation mark while keeping initial caps on the 
> first character?
i'll send you something off-list to test

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