Re: Seeking a Deeper ConTeXt: Questions for Initializing

[John Haltiwanger <john.haltiwanger@gmail.com>]

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>
>  I am not averse to rolling my own, I am just confused why, if environments
>> are so powerful and flexible (flexible meaning one can easily change
>> things,
>> unlike document classes), there are no pre-rolled environments available.
>> I
>> am thinking here of standardized thesis environments for universities, or
>> a
>> nice letter environment to demonstrate the beauty of TeX.
>>
>
> sure, but all organizations want it slightly different


Okay, but that does imply that an organization can set up an environment and
expect its members to use it.


>
> Yes, I meant RDF. XML is a very important format. I find it odd that TeX
>> can
>> generate PDF but cannot output simple XML. So in order to have a
>> semantical
>> document I must write it in XML and then process it with ConTeXt? Is the
>> capacity there (through LuaTeX perhaps) to write an XML generator?
>>
>
> sure, but how useful is it to have a representation of (e.g.) a node list
> that makes up a paragraph in xml format? no app can do something with it


I'm not sure what you mean by a representation of a node list for a
paragraph (I am new to TeX, remember), but I am thinking more along the
lines of extracting Title, Author, and the content. Typesetting is not the
goal, as XML is for computers not people.


> maybe at some point the adobe and microsoft xml output formats become an
> option (which then involves resources like fonts and graphics as well so
>  it's pretty bulky and one might wonder what gain there is)
>

The gain of XML is participation in the semantic web and concordance with
many new data keeping rules in governments and organizations.

 While I would expect the reasons for wanting XML output would be obvious, a
> concrete example is that at least one journal is deprecating LaTeX because
> it wants to archive all of its articles in XML.
>

in which case it keeps the input in xml and converts to other formats (coule
> be tex in the case of rendering print)


 The input is actually a specific version of Word. This is converted to XML.
In the case of LaTeX, the LaTeX is converted to Word and then to XML.

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