From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/50822 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Haltiwanger Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Seeking a Deeper ConTeXt: Questions for Initializing Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 17:26:25 -0400 Message-ID: <4c1f1f860905261426n5c982a04qd3d81c894ca22e63@mail.gmail.com> References: <4c1f1f860905241017s40033f7crde553d358a24b57f@mail.gmail.com> <4c1f1f860905250930g2e44f973y335be816c2883981@mail.gmail.com> <4A1AC9B8.3050807@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2143744239==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1243373254 18080 80.91.229.12 (26 May 2009 21:27:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 21:27:34 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue May 26 23:27:30 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1M94BB-00015r-JQ for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 May 2009 23:27:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8803C1FE31; Tue, 26 May 2009 23:27:24 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 07520-05; Tue, 26 May 2009 23:26:47 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 387BA1FE29; Tue, 26 May 2009 23:26:47 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D03A61FE25 for ; Tue, 26 May 2009 23:26:44 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 28208-06 for ; Tue, 26 May 2009 23:26:30 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter3-til.mf.surf.net (filter3-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.219]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72AD71FE29 for ; Tue, 26 May 2009 23:26:28 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-fx0-f176.google.com (mail-fx0-f176.google.com [209.85.220.176]) by filter3-til.mf.surf.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n4QLQQTr021327 for ; Tue, 26 May 2009 23:26:27 +0200 Original-Received: by fxm24 with SMTP id 24so4432629fxm.2 for ; Tue, 26 May 2009 14:26:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=pSAnVYfed5zoAtx6REkfTlGtCf1IG1G2sGU/pKAD0Ew=; b=entjbRBaqGsOJ/wSF6ACg4uXGDcN35PHklbUFK2XAXmN4ziMSoNkRHhB3LlxTLBh0p htEZBTIp0kLs7lKDfB3j0su6GAGGGlqQyZA3fZyEjdI9rWVWby2r0APMmiRQhs1ODd3I 2fb2or8e7uK7jQ8GpeS1t0PuXz3ZpGDjRMxOc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=JLwhNZk6URFjBl8iFqeJUX/MFv7thwcV2jPPLSJplX/mHAS6Sg7JUOVRf4q/kzOX/v zGyp/a8/04HbdmabEwsZwctYIN2XSSENyRFMy8bsjJ8XQsd4ztLFtEbG+jFERhrLK0cQ s/alE376xkWHOxMdWmwmIs9vWFmGmd2NIEFqU= Original-Received: by 10.223.125.144 with SMTP id y16mr4771284far.93.1243373186231; Tue, 26 May 2009 14:26:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=209.85.220.176; country=US; region=CA; city=Mountain View; postalcode=94043; latitude=37.4192; longitude=-122.0574; metrocode=807; areacode=650; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=37.4192,-122.0574&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 232310969 - 2c307656f097 - 20090526 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.219 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:50822 Archived-At: --===============2143744239== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502e50116ad1d046ad76100 --00504502e50116ad1d046ad76100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > In any case, I'd worry less about the technology, and more about what you > need > from it. That will make it easier to figure out which approach is best. > > Bruce > > > Markdown with RDFa on the side will suit quite nicely, thanks to pandoc. The desire for semantical documents sounds like it will be resolved sooner or later with Tagged PDF. Until then the semantics can reside outside the PDF in my case. I consider it only a "need" inasmuch as I am an archivist by archetype, and so the idea of the best looking documents (the PDFs) being also the most monolithic just goes against my natural grain. For now it is not an urgency, but I do thank you all for the advice and comments! The markdown solution is doubly good because now I see a way to incorporate conTeXt in a web project that centers on language The better rendered the text, the better the project. Ah, the universal adoption of TeX in everything I do may not be far off ;) Regards, John C. Haltiwanger --00504502e50116ad1d046ad76100 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


In any case, I'd worry less about the technology, and more about what y= ou need
from it. That will make it easier to figure out which approach is best.

Bruce



Markdown with RDFa on the side will suit = quite nicely, thanks to pandoc. The desire for semantical documents sounds = like it will be resolved sooner or later with Tagged PDF. Until then the se= mantics can reside outside the PDF in my case. I consider it only a "n= eed" inasmuch as I am an archivist by archetype, and so the idea of th= e best looking documents (the PDFs) being also the most monolithic just goe= s against my natural grain. For now it is not an urgency, but I do thank yo= u all for the advice and comments!

The markdown solution is doubly good because now I see a way to incorpo= rate conTeXt in a web project that centers on language The better rendered = the text, the better the project. Ah, the universal adoption of TeX in ever= ything I do may not be far off ;)

Regards,

John C. Haltiwanger
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