From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/56033 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Haltiwanger Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: What do you miss in ConTeXt? 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I've only used BibTeX a few times, and never BibLaTeX (because I'd already switched to ConTeXT), but it's inflexibility makes it unworkable. Ideally ConTeXt could provide its general sensible-ness (and Lua power) to do for bibliographies what it has already done for TeX. CSL support and something similar to string.format('%s. (%s). %s.', author, year, title) or something just as easy for defining a new output style would be the two features most desired. If MLA were finally implemented (or implementable) for \cite{} in TeX, I would be a very happy masters student indeed ;) (BibLaTeX's MLA did not work for me in LyX, which is about as far as I'm going to go into LaTeX). Until then I'll just use the MLA setup environment from the ConTeXt wiki and input my refs by hand. On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Wolfgang Schuster < schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote: > Am 08.02.10 14:41, schrieb Alan BRASLAU: > > > And why not abstract this further? One could then flexibly >> logically place (and connect) containers of any sort. >> I use collectors and columnsetspan to put together posters (A0). >> This could be made easier. >> > > The flowfram [1] package for LaTeX looks like a good example how this can > be done and with the current stream and layer mechanism it should be doable > to provide something similar in ConTeXt. > > [1] http://ctan.org/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/entries/flowfram.html > > Wolfgang > > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > --00032555af2edae4d0047f19da10 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'd just like to chime in that a new bibliography system would be first= suggestion for ConTeXt. I've only used BibTeX a few times, and never B= ibLaTeX (because I'd already switched to ConTeXT), but it's inflexi= bility makes it unworkable.

Ideally ConTeXt could provide its general sensible-ness (and Lua power)= to do for bibliographies what it has already done for TeX. CSL support and= something similar to string.format('%s. (%s). %s.', author, year, = title) or something just as easy for defining a new output style would be t= he two features most desired. If MLA were finally implemented (or implement= able) for \cite{} in TeX, I would be a very happy masters student indeed ;)=

(BibLaTeX's MLA did not work for me in LyX, which is about as far a= s I'm going to go into LaTeX).

Until then I'll just use the = MLA setup environment from the ConTeXt wiki and input my refs by hand.

On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 5:54 PM, Wolfgang Sch= uster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:
Am 08.02.10 14:41, schrieb Alan BRASLAU:


And why not abstract this further? One could then flexibly
logically place (and connect) containers of any sort.
I use collectors and columnsetspan to put together posters (A0).
This could be made easier.

The flowfram [1] package for LaTeX looks like a good example how this can b= e done and with the current stream and layer mechanism it should be doable = to provide something similar in ConTeXt.

[1] http://ctan.org/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/entries/= flowfram.html

Wolfgang

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If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki!

maillist : ntg-cont= ext@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
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wiki =A0 =A0 : http:= //contextgarden.net
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