From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/56052 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Haltiwanger Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: What do you miss in ConTeXt? 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Unfortunately, arXiv.org (still) has problems with ConTeXt, > as the submitted source is detected as TeX but the compilation fails. > One is thus obligated to translate to LaTeX: > "Your (La)TeX, AMS(La)TeX, or PDFLaTeX submission will be processed > automatically by our AutoTeX software." > > Now, if only my administration and funding agencies would stop sending > MS-Word files... > > Alan > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > Perhaps not an appropriate solution in all cases, but the application Pandoc is able to generate standalone LaTeX files. One has to use something other than ConTeXt as an input language (it can translate LaTeX input but so far no ConTeXt; I use Markdown but reStructuredText and HTML are also available. The standalone LaTeX files generated (meaning they include the header setup) compile fine, at least the ones I've tested (ConTeXt standalone seems to require Mk.II). I must say I'm very impressed with this software. It turned all of my ""s into \quotation{}, for instance, and it knows to do {\it italics} rather than \it{italics}. One could also generate a Word document (via OpenOffice.org ODT format output). Not to mention HTML. --00032555af2e8da5f2047f275b59 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 9:32 AM, Alan BRASLAU <alan.braslau@cea.= fr> wrote:
On Tuesday 09 February 2010 03:50:27 Curiouslearn wrote:<= br> >
> I hope (and this perhaps has nothing to do with the brilliant Context<= br> > development team) is that journals start accepting Context files.
> While I use context for my personal and class notes, for articles I am=
> still forced to go to latex because journals do not accept context
> files.
>

In fact, not many journals even accept LaTeX: I sometimes have to sub= mit
so-called ".txt" files!

As Otared Kavian pointed out, the mathematics journals are a bit more
advanced (as are the purely physics journals), and LaTeX is even a
standard. Unfortunately, arXiv.org (still) has problems with ConTeXt,
as the submitted source is detected as TeX but the compilation fails.
One is thus obligated to translate to LaTeX:
=A0"Your (La)TeX, AMS(La)TeX, or PDFLaTeX submission will be processe= d
automatically by our AutoTeX software."

Now, if only my administration and funding agencies would stop sending
MS-Word files...

Alan
__________________________________= _________________________________________________
If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / <= a href=3D"http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context" target=3D"_blank"= >http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage =A0: http://= www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive =A0: http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki =A0 =A0 : http:= //contextgarden.net
___________________________________________________________________________= ________


Perhaps not an appropriate solution = in all cases, but the application Pandoc is able to generate standalone LaTeX files. One has to use something other than ConTeXt as an input language (it can translate LaTeX input but so far no ConTeXt; I use Markdown but reStructuredText and = HTML are also available. The standalone LaTeX files generated (meaning they include the header setup) compile fine, at least th= e ones I've tested (ConTeXt standalone seems to require Mk.II).

I must say I'm very impressed with this software. It turned all of my ""s into \quotation{}, for instance, and it knows to do {\it ital= ics} rather than \it{italics}. One could also generate a Word document (via OpenOffice.org ODT format output). Not to mention HTML.
--00032555af2e8da5f2047f275b59-- --===============0159236986== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ --===============0159236986==--