mathalignment and grid

mathalignment and grid

[Henri Menke]

Dear Hans,

In a previous email I complained that with mathalignment large formulas crash into the paragraph
below when using grid typesetting.  This has been fixed in the latest beta but now the space above
and below is asymmetric.  For this particular case I could fix it by setting the gird snapping mode
to "top" rather than "math", but this does not apply universally.  Any chance there is an easy fix?

Cheers, Henri

---

\setuplayout[grid=both]
\showgrid

\startmode[fix]
\unprotect
\def\math_alignment_snap_start
  {\ifgridsnapping
     \snaptogrid[top]\vbox\bgroup
   \fi}
\protect
\stopmode

\starttext
\input knuth
\startformula
  \startmathalignment
    \NC i\hbar\frac{\diff}{\diff t}\psi \NC= \left( - \frac{\hbar^2}{2 m} \nabla^2 + V(r) \right)
\psi \NR
    \NC F(x) \NC= \int f(x) \diff x \NR
  \stopmathalignment
\stopformula
\input ward
\stoptext
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Re: mathalignment and grid

[Hans Hagen]

On 7/3/2017 8:37 AM, Henri Menke wrote:
> Dear Hans,
> 
> In a previous email I complained that with mathalignment large formulas crash into the paragraph
> below when using grid typesetting.  This has been fixed in the latest beta but now the space above
> and below is asymmetric.  For this particular case I could fix it by setting the gird snapping mode
> to "top" rather than "math", but this does not apply universally.  Any chance there is an easy fix?

you can experiment with other grid options to see what is the best 
average .. the problem is that in a symmetrical vcentered formula ht/dp 
is kind of unknown (we could add a grid key to formulas so that users 
can choose)

> Cheers, Henri
> 
> ---
> 
> \setuplayout[grid=both]
> \showgrid
> 
> \startmode[fix]
> \unprotect
> \def\math_alignment_snap_start
>    {\ifgridsnapping
>       \snaptogrid[top]\vbox\bgroup
>     \fi}
> \protect
> \stopmode
> 
> \starttext
> \input knuth
> \startformula
>    \startmathalignment
>      \NC i\hbar\frac{\diff}{\diff t}\psi \NC= \left( - \frac{\hbar^2}{2 m} \nabla^2 + V(r) \right)
> \psi \NR
>      \NC F(x) \NC= \int f(x) \diff x \NR
>    \stopmathalignment
> \stopformula
> \input ward
> \stoptext
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mathalignment and grid

[Henri Menke]

Dear list,

when I typeset multi line equations using mathalignment and grid the descenders of the last line of equation run into the first line of text after that equation.  The problem is particularly bad with the Lucida fonts (I think the large operators are relatively larger than for Latin Modern).

I could just increase the spacing after equation (commented out in the MWE below), but that would introduce an imbalance between space before and space after for all equations without descenders.  Furthermore the problem does not arise for single line equations with descenders.  Without grid there is also no problem.

How do I fix mathalignment to prevent this?

Cheers, Henri

---

\setuplayout[grid=yes]
\setupbodyfont[lucidaot,9pt]
%\setupformulas[spaceafter={back,nowhite,2*line}]

\showgrid
\starttext

\input ward
\startformula
  \startmathalignment
  \NC \sum_{i,\alpha,\beta} c_{i,\alpha}^\dagger c_{i,\beta} \NR
  \NC \sum_{i,\alpha,\beta} c_{i,\alpha}^\dagger c_{i,\beta} \NR
  \stopmathalignment
\stopformula
%\blank[2*line]
\input ward
\startformula
  \sum_{i,\alpha,\beta} c_{i,\alpha}^\dagger c_{i,\beta}
\stopformula
\input ward
\startformula
  \text{no descenders}
\stopformula
\input ward

\stoptext
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Re: mathalignment and grid

[Henri Menke]

Dear list,

I did some research in math-ali.mkiv and found that when grid is enabled, the whole alignment is simply put in a vbox and snapped to the grid using

\def\math_alignment_snap_start
  {\ifgridsnapping
     \snaptogrid[\v!both]\vbox\bgroup
   \fi}

Unfortunately, the `both` option rounds down both depth and height which is inconvenient when the content has large descenders (as in the example).  It  should be therefore changed to some other grid setting which rounds up.  I chose `top` for now but I'm not done experimenting yet.

Cheers, Henri


On 08/28/2016 03:27 PM, Henri Menke wrote:
> Dear list,
> 
> when I typeset multi line equations using mathalignment and grid the descenders of the last line of equation run into the first line of text after that equation.  The problem is particularly bad with the Lucida fonts (I think the large operators are relatively larger than for Latin Modern).
> 
> I could just increase the spacing after equation (commented out in the MWE below), but that would introduce an imbalance between space before and space after for all equations without descenders.  Furthermore the problem does not arise for single line equations with descenders.  Without grid there is also no problem.
> 
> How do I fix mathalignment to prevent this?
> 
> Cheers, Henri
> 
> ---
> 
> \setuplayout[grid=yes]
> \setupbodyfont[lucidaot,9pt]
> %\setupformulas[spaceafter={back,nowhite,2*line}]
> 
> \showgrid
> \starttext
> 
> \input ward
> \startformula
>   \startmathalignment
>   \NC \sum_{i,\alpha,\beta} c_{i,\alpha}^\dagger c_{i,\beta} \NR
>   \NC \sum_{i,\alpha,\beta} c_{i,\alpha}^\dagger c_{i,\beta} \NR
>   \stopmathalignment
> \stopformula
> %\blank[2*line]
> \input ward
> \startformula
>   \sum_{i,\alpha,\beta} c_{i,\alpha}^\dagger c_{i,\beta}
> \stopformula
> \input ward
> \startformula
>   \text{no descenders}
> \stopformula
> \input ward
> 
> \stoptext
> 

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