From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE,URIBL_SBL_A autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 20961 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2023 09:44:57 -0000 Received: from zapf.ntg.nl (5.39.185.232) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 1 Jun 2023 09:44:57 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C1E71C390E; Thu, 1 Jun 2023 11:44:48 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at zapf.ntg.nl Received: from zapf.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zapf.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id J1LzLIdWpLJh; Thu, 1 Jun 2023 11:44:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from zapf.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F8C1C1009; Thu, 1 Jun 2023 11:44:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97C391C1009 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2023 11:44:41 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at zapf.ntg.nl Received: from zapf.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zapf.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QAnvv4yiCbVN for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2023 11:44:40 +0200 (CEST) Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=195.121.94.186; helo=ewsoutbound.kpnmail.nl; envelope-from=j.hagen@xs4all.nl; receiver= Received: from ewsoutbound.kpnmail.nl (ewsoutbound.kpnmail.nl [195.121.94.186]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF94D1C02FF for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2023 11:44:40 +0200 (CEST) X-KPN-MessageId: ed08147c-0060-11ee-87d3-00505699b430 Received: from smtp.kpnmail.nl (unknown [10.31.155.5]) by ewsoutbound.so.kpn.org (Halon) with ESMTPS id ed08147c-0060-11ee-87d3-00505699b430; Thu, 01 Jun 2023 11:44:38 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=xs4all.nl; s=xs4all01; h=content-type:subject:from:to:mime-version:date:message-id; bh=xlFVvMgzBqnzQ+FpmcO4b3bDzx/FUfO+jw0zIb+WMHc=; b=CP/gbaESC7EaEPpjElD1ks+PTm1bnQVf2oPDrCaFz/zeIGu9t+y87LooFtRK8z/xRRx9ydVCg2ItH l3K/+7g9GjMuiWN8TFyMk0qkC8WXr8258Fb/rEKEAxasAZvSEUSEwwpeUWpvO1jZZjPmwdOh/5J/vi yGhlW2cFncRLq+eWXTFc0AdFsoeeGX2lyzbAXsR7xYF9fAZrHsqVMcZqd17oxY3cRX7ejFq2MBJp3w xYUYBcB9VyDLM2qZP4c8tvGy7APkdp03qKx/+pOVMidxoni6AKowdQGTmeodF5sf/rU5ibxUBsy1AZ xR890NknYqPCkmafUJfMeSZLn5P41WQ== X-KPN-MID: 33|eMSUzourTOeLgmkloX3juOnuOwg0RK0uxG323nAVjdjPlLUsM/Crf8YqP3awOel Ch/UWBAZk1FPf0l3yb5JXxSrmfxzEohciG6j+5NiyLH0= X-KPN-VerifiedSender: Yes X-CMASSUN: 33|hBVcxbV+oviphGCPI8RG18RN3XXOn9xxeZ7DFBmR83uzW4mRpHJjzCdAgYh2IlP MBu4Kpvjs3pXHdYRCE+oyGA== X-Originating-IP: 213.125.29.162 Received: from [10.100.1.105] (d57d1da2.static.ziggozakelijk.nl [213.125.29.162]) by smtp.xs4all.nl (Halon) with ESMTPSA id edd5cd26-0060-11ee-aef3-00505699b758; Thu, 01 Jun 2023 11:44:40 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4d6bfac1-1ce5-fff0-9309-b07b6879eb76@xs4all.nl> Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2023 11:44:38 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.11.2 Content-Language: en-US To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Subject: [NTG-context] knuth X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.38 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Hans Hagen via ntg-context Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Cc: Hans Hagen Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sender: "ntg-context" Hi, Probably some on this list already checked how well chatgpt answers questions about domains one knows well and then probably noted that in spite of impressive wording, one can run into quite incorrect answers. One can get really stupid responses about tex and friends, but also can get impressive exmapled when asked for. (I'm still planning a wrap up of some.) That said, one should read: https://cs.stanford.edu/~knuth/chatGPT20.txt and this makes a pretty nice new sample file: It's amazing how the confident tone lends credibility to all of that made-up nonsense. Almost impossible for anybody without knowledge of the book to believe that those "facts" aren't authorititative and well researched. (among some other remarks) Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : https://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________