"a is not becoming ä in Context 2000.10.3

"a is not becoming ä in Context 2000.10.3

[Robert F. Beeger]

Hello!

I just got the lastest stable version of context and found that "a does not 
become ä anymore.
Is there a special reason for this?
I have
\mainlanguage[de]
\language[de]
and it worked with 2000.5.29.

There seems to be the same problem with other Umlauts, too, though I can't 
name them now.
The "a is in the title of my document, so it burned in my eye. On browsing 
it - the document, not my eye - I saw many other " but hadn't the time to 
take a closer look on them.
\"a still works, but ispell recognizes "a in its tex mode. So "a is more 
convenient not only because of the one fewer character to type.

Greets
     Robert 

Re: "a is not becoming ä in Context 2000.10.3

[Hans Hagen]

At 09:28 PM 10/5/00 +0200, Robert F. Beeger wrote:
>Hello!
>
>I just got the lastest stable version of context and found that "a does not 
>become ä anymore.
>Is there a special reason for this?
>I have
>\mainlanguage[de]
>\language[de]
>and it worked with 2000.5.29.
>
>There seems to be the same problem with other Umlauts, too, though I can't 
>name them now.
>The "a is in the title of my document, so it burned in my eye. On browsing 
>it - the document, not my eye - I saw many other " but hadn't the time to 
>take a closer look on them.
>\"a still works, but ispell recognizes "a in its tex mode. So "a is more 
>convenient not only because of the one fewer character to type.

I think that there is something missing in your setup. Because some folks
[polish people for instance] don't want such language specifics to be
turned on by default [they sometimes use the /z notation], the language
specifics that deal with this kind of mapping are now moved to the enco
files [enco-fde for german] and need to be loaded with \useencodung. This
happens by default in cont-usr.tex which is in the distribution as
cont-usr.ori. 

So, the feature is still there, but you haven't turned it on. The best way
to deal with encodings is to specify it in the file itself, but that's up
to the user. 

Actually, this change is also more clear, since we are dealing with a kind
of encoding [i had an interesting discussion with bernd raichle and karel
skoupy at the dante meeting about the very TeXnical reasons why this cannot
be implemented using ligatures, which would be the better way] 

I thought that I had announced this change but i may be wrong, 

Hans   
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Re: "a is not becoming ä in Context 2000.10.3

[Robert F. Beeger]

Hello, Hans!

It was turned on in cont-usr.tex.
But it worked only after I touched this file and again remade the formats.
That's somehow mysterious. But now that it's working that doesn't matter 
anymore.

Thanks for the link to the file. I never changed it since my SuSE Linux 
came preconfigured and updating ConTeXt
never brought up such a problem. The actual update to cont-tmf has the fde 
encoding also turned on.

So this time I can put the blame on my Linux or maybe Linux and teTeX :)
How wonderful to be innocent.

Greets
     Robert

At 20:02 07.10.00 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
>At 09:28 PM 10/5/00 +0200, Robert F. Beeger wrote:
> >Hello!
> >
> >I just got the lastest stable version of context and found that "a does not
> >become ä anymore.
> >Is there a special reason for this?
> >I have
> >\mainlanguage[de]
> >\language[de]
> >and it worked with 2000.5.29.
> >
> >There seems to be the same problem with other Umlauts, too, though I can't
> >name them now.
> >The "a is in the title of my document, so it burned in my eye. On browsing
> >it - the document, not my eye - I saw many other " but hadn't the time to
> >take a closer look on them.
> >\"a still works, but ispell recognizes "a in its tex mode. So "a is more
> >convenient not only because of the one fewer character to type.
>
>I think that there is something missing in your setup. Because some folks
>[polish people for instance] don't want such language specifics to be
>turned on by default [they sometimes use the /z notation], the language
>specifics that deal with this kind of mapping are now moved to the enco
>files [enco-fde for german] and need to be loaded with \useencodung. This
>happens by default in cont-usr.tex which is in the distribution as
>cont-usr.ori.
>
>So, the feature is still there, but you haven't turned it on. The best way
>to deal with encodings is to specify it in the file itself, but that's up
>to the user.
>
>Actually, this change is also more clear, since we are dealing with a kind
>of encoding [i had an interesting discussion with bernd raichle and karel
>skoupy at the dante meeting about the very TeXnical reasons why this cannot
>be implemented using ligatures, which would be the better way]
>
>I thought that I had announced this change but i may be wrong,
>
>Hans
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