Re: Fatal format file error; I'm stymied

Re: Fatal format file error; I'm stymied

[Hans Hagen]

At 04:46 PM 11/8/2001 +0100, you wrote:
> > At 03:15 PM 11/8/2001 +0100, Lukas Kubin wrote:
> > >i checked the web2c directory and it contains cont-en.efmt elatex.efmt
> > >etex.efmt pdfelatex.efmt and pdfetex.efmt files (among others, of
> > >course). I have no other .efmt files in the tetex tree.
> > >
> > >this what I've done before: I installed the tetex 1.0 binaries (yes it's
> > >old but I'm having problems compiling the new sources on tru64 unix). The
> > >ConTeXt in that version is quite old, so I downloaded and unzipped in the
> > >texmf tree the current beta. Then: texconfig confall, I turned cont-en on
> > >in the texconfig formats, texhash, texexec --make en. Then you suggested
> > >texexec --make --alone en nl , so I tried but no change when try texexec
> > >anyfile.tex
> >
> > did you also move the new texexec (>=2.4) to the right place?
>
>yes, I did.
>now I posted a new mail to the list. I wrote there now I
>started again with whole the installation. I deleted the tetex directory
>and installed it again. Then I tried to run the old context 1.9 and it
>resulted into the same error.
>thank you for your patience with me.

can you run texexec --verbose and check texexec,ini?

What happens if you leave the fmt files on the current path? Do you then 
also get an error?

Hans

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fixed - Re: Fatal format file error; I'm stymied

[Lukas Kubin]

I would like to thank anybody who tried to help me with the "I'm
stymied" problem. I found it was caused by the presence of file
cont-en.efmt (created by the format generation script - and format from
the old version of ConTeXt) in the same directory where my testing file
was saved.

Thank you

lukas

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Re: Fatal format file error; I'm stymied

[Norbert Preining]

Hi Hans, hi all!

(Don't see Ernesto's email adr, so to the list, Hans in case please
forward it to him)

On Fr, 02 Nov 2007, Hans Hagen wrote:
> >I recently upgraded my operating system to Ubuntu 7.10 (on an AMD64 
> >machine) and got the TeXLive and ConTeXt packages from the Ubuntu 
> >repositories.  I tried compiling a very simple document:

Did you upgrade from an older version?

> >Clearly something is not working properly and I suspect the 
> >incompatibility between This is pdfTeXk...
> >and
> >   ---! cont-en.fmt was written by pdfetex 
> >is the source of all trouble here.

pdfetex with TeXLIve 2007, NO!

Can you tell us the LOCATION of cont-en.fmt? Probably there are left
overs in
	/var/lib/texmf/web2c/*.fmt
Delete all of them, then call dpkg-reconfigure context

Best wishes

Norbert

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Re: Fatal format file error; I'm stymied

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, Hans Hagen wrote:

> Ernesto Schirmacher wrote:
>> After many years as a LaTeX user I'm attempting to switch over to ConTeXt.
>>
>> I recently upgraded my operating system to Ubuntu 7.10 (on an AMD64 machine) and got the TeXLive and ConTeXt packages from the Ubuntu repositories.  I tried compiling a very simple document:
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> Hello this is \ConTeXt.
>>
>> \stoptext
>>
>> using the command: texexec simple.tex and got the following output on my terminal:
>>
>> TeXExec | processing document 'simple.tex'
>> TeXExec | no ctx file found
>> TeXExec | tex processing method: context
>> TeXExec | TeX run 1
>> TeXExec | writing option file simple.top
>> TeXExec | using randomseed 898
>> TeXExec | tex engine: pdftex
>> TeXExec | tex format: cont-en
>> This is pdfTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.40.3 (Web2C 7.5.6)
>> %$-line parsing enabled.
>> (/usr/share/texmf/web2c/natural.tcx)
>> ---! cont-en.fmt was written by pdfetex
>> (Fatal format file error; I'm stymied)
>> TeXExec | runtime: 0.177424
>>
>>
>> Clearly something is not working properly and I suspect the incompatibility between
>>    This is pdfTeXk...
>> and
>>    ---! cont-en.fmt was written by pdfetex
>> is the source of all trouble here.
>>
>> Could someone please point me in the right direction to resolve this?
>
> pdfetex is obsolete now; there should only be a pdftex binary
>
> since ubunto is based on debian i assume that they use the same
> packages, so i cc to norbert

I can confirm that context works fine on ubuntu 7.10 (amd 64). I 
recently installed it on my laptop (fresh install of ubuntu), and 
followed the instructions on the wiki, and it worked. So, the ubuntu 
repository is ok.

I cannot help with the problem since I am still trying to figure out 
the nitty gritty of linux.

Aditya
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Re: Fatal format file error; I'm stymied

[Hans Hagen]

Ernesto Schirmacher wrote:
> After many years as a LaTeX user I'm attempting to switch over to ConTeXt.  
> 
> I recently upgraded my operating system to Ubuntu 7.10 (on an AMD64 machine) and got the TeXLive and ConTeXt packages from the Ubuntu repositories.  I tried compiling a very simple document:
> 
> \starttext
> 
> Hello this is \ConTeXt.
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> using the command: texexec simple.tex and got the following output on my terminal:
> 
> TeXExec | processing document 'simple.tex'
> TeXExec | no ctx file found
> TeXExec | tex processing method: context
> TeXExec | TeX run 1
> TeXExec | writing option file simple.top
> TeXExec | using randomseed 898
> TeXExec | tex engine: pdftex
> TeXExec | tex format: cont-en
> This is pdfTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.40.3 (Web2C 7.5.6)
> %$-line parsing enabled.
> (/usr/share/texmf/web2c/natural.tcx)
> ---! cont-en.fmt was written by pdfetex
> (Fatal format file error; I'm stymied)
> TeXExec | runtime: 0.177424
> 
> 
> Clearly something is not working properly and I suspect the incompatibility between 
>    This is pdfTeXk...
> and
>    ---! cont-en.fmt was written by pdfetex 
> is the source of all trouble here.
> 
> Could someone please point me in the right direction to resolve this?

pdfetex is obsolete now; there should only be a pdftex binary

since ubunto is based on debian i assume that they use the same 
packages, so i cc to norbert

Hans

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Re: Fatal format file error; I'm stymied

[Taco Hoekwater]

Ernesto Schirmacher wrote:
> 
> 
> Clearly something is not working properly and I suspect the incompatibility between 
>    This is pdfTeXk...
> and
>    ---! cont-en.fmt was written by pdfetex 
> is the source of all trouble here.
> 
> Could someone please point me in the right direction to resolve this?

It could be that you still have and older cont-en.fmt on your disk
somewhere from a previous tetex or texlive. The separate 'pdfetex'
executable does not exist anymore since release 1.40, so that format
file seems to be a leftover.

Best wishes,
Taco

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Re: Fatal format file error; I'm stymied

[luigi scarso]

On 11/2/07, Ernesto Schirmacher <ernesto_schirmacher@hotmail.com> wrote:
> using the command: texexec simple.tex and got the following output on my >terminal:
hmm,try
texexec --pdf simple.tex

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Fatal format file error; I'm stymied

[Ernesto Schirmacher]

After many years as a LaTeX user I'm attempting to switch over to ConTeXt.  

I recently upgraded my operating system to Ubuntu 7.10 (on an AMD64 machine) and got the TeXLive and ConTeXt packages from the Ubuntu repositories.  I tried compiling a very simple document:

\starttext

Hello this is \ConTeXt.

\stoptext

using the command: texexec simple.tex and got the following output on my terminal:

TeXExec | processing document 'simple.tex'
TeXExec | no ctx file found
TeXExec | tex processing method: context
TeXExec | TeX run 1
TeXExec | writing option file simple.top
TeXExec | using randomseed 898
TeXExec | tex engine: pdftex
TeXExec | tex format: cont-en
This is pdfTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.40.3 (Web2C 7.5.6)
%$-line parsing enabled.
(/usr/share/texmf/web2c/natural.tcx)
---! cont-en.fmt was written by pdfetex
(Fatal format file error; I'm stymied)
TeXExec | runtime: 0.177424


Clearly something is not working properly and I suspect the incompatibility between 
   This is pdfTeXk...
and
   ---! cont-en.fmt was written by pdfetex 
is the source of all trouble here.

Could someone please point me in the right direction to resolve this?

Thanks in advance, 

Ernesto
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Re: Fatal format file error; I'm stymied

[Hans Hagen]

At 04:09 PM 11/8/2001 +0100, you wrote:
>i attached the result to file cont-new.log
>
>One news is I tried to begin from start again. I deleted the old tetex 1.0
>directory and installed it again. Now I made no changes to the context
>version (I haven't replaced the 1.9 version files which are part of the
>tetex 1.0 installation) and the symptoms remain still the same.

you can safely use the new context files with an old tetex. Don;t mix up 
old and new context files !

Use the latest texexec.pl and if needed set

$TEXFORMATS=....

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Re: Fatal format file error; I'm stymied

[Patrick Gundlach]

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> This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-13d-2.1 (Web2C 7.3.1) (format=cont-en 2001.11.8)  8 NOV 2001 15:51

did you really run pdfetex and not cont-en or texexec???

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Viele Grüße,

  Patrick Gundlach

Re: Fatal format file error; I'm stymied

[Lukas Kubin]

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i attached the result to file cont-new.log

One news is I tried to begin from start again. I deleted the old tetex 1.0
directory and installed it again. Now I made no changes to the context
version (I haven't replaced the 1.9 version files which are part of the
tetex 1.0 installation) and the symptoms remain still the same.

lukas

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On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Patrick Gundlach wrote:

> good,
> 
> so what happens if you run 
> 
> pdfetex
> 
> and then type &cont-en  after the prompt **
> 
> ???
> 
> 
> Viele Grüße,
> 
>   Patrick Gundlach
> 
> 

[-- Attachment #2: log --]
[-- Type: TEXT/PLAIN, Size: 2029 bytes --]

This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-13d-2.1 (Web2C 7.3.1) (format=cont-en 2001.11.8)  8 NOV 2001 15:51
entering extended mode
**&cont-en
(/usr/users/kopl9612/bin/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex
systems        : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex!
system (E-TEX) : [line 43] \unless 
)
system         : cont-old loaded
(/usr/users/kopl9612/bin/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex
loading        : Context Old Macros
)
system         : cont-fil loaded
(/usr/users/kopl9612/bin/teTeX/share/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex
loading        : Context File Synonyms
)
bodyfont       : 12pt rm is loaded
language       : patterns 2-en-2 2-uk-2 2-de-2 2-fr-2 2-nl-2 loaded
specials       : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded
\openout2 = `cont-new.tui'.

! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [number of strings=100].
<to be read again> 
                   \relax 
\doreadfile ...\scratchread =\readfilename \relax 
                                                  \ifeof \scratchread \immed...

\doutilities ...bfile {#2.\f!outputextension }{}{}
                                                  #5\relax \ifunprotectutili...
<argument> ...ies {float\s!pass }{\jobname }{}{}{}
                                                  \ifx \twopassdata \empty \...

\doifundefined ...{\p!defined }\endcsname \else #2
                                                  \fi 
\next1 #1,->\doloadtwopassdata {#1}
                                   \doprocesscommaitem 
...
<*> &cont-en
            
If you really absolutely need more capacity,
you can ask a wizard to enlarge me.

 
Here is how much of TeX's memory you used:
 98 strings out of 100
 1299 string characters out of 5000
 341187 words of memory out of 1100001
 25439 multiletter control sequences out of 10000+17316
 9049 words of font info for 28 fonts, out of 400000 for 1000
 22 hyphenation exceptions out of 1000
 15i,1n,22p,94b,38s stack positions out of 300i,100n,500p,50000b,4000s
No pages of output.

Re: Fatal format file error; I'm stymied

[Patrick Gundlach]

good,

so what happens if you run 

pdfetex

and then type &cont-en  after the prompt **

???

Viele Grüße,

  Patrick Gundlach

Re: Fatal format file error; I'm stymied

[Lukas Kubin]

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it shows the same path (to the web2c directory) the file is in

lukas

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On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Patrick Gundlach wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> more interesting is if TeX knows about the cont-en.efmt.
> 
> so what is the output of 
> 
> kpsewhich cont-en.efmt 
> 
> 
> Viele Grüße,
> 
>   Patrick Gundlach
> 
> 

Re: Fatal format file error; I'm stymied

[Patrick Gundlach]

Hi,

more interesting is if TeX knows about the cont-en.efmt.

so what is the output of 

kpsewhich cont-en.efmt 

Viele Grüße,

  Patrick Gundlach

Re: Fatal format file error; I'm stymied

[Lukas Kubin]

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I have only the file cont-en.efmt in the web2c directory. I have no
cont-en.fmt file in the tetex tree.
Yes, I have write permission in the directory. Also I can delete the
directory and start again, which I did - unsuccesfully.

lukas
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On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Patrick Gundlach wrote:

> Ok, were getting closer...
> 
> 
> > it says the path
> > .:!!/.../teTeX/share/texmf/web2c
> > 
> > (of course, the ... was written by me now)
> 
> so put the cont-en.fmt and cont-en.efmt  (or, depending on your 
> language cont-cz.eftm, cont-cz.fmt if I am right) into this 
> directory and update the search path with texhash. (Do you have 
> write permissions for that directory?)
> 
> Then, do a 
> 
> kpsewhich cont-en.efmt 
> 
> (or whatever format you have copied.) 
> is it in the same path as you have described?
> 
> 
> Viele Grüße,
> 
>   Patrick Gundlach
> 
> 
> - I TeX, therefore I am -
> 

Re: Fatal format file error; I'm stymied

[Patrick Gundlach]

Ok, were getting closer...

> it says the path
> .:!!/.../teTeX/share/texmf/web2c
> 
> (of course, the ... was written by me now)

so put the cont-en.fmt and cont-en.efmt  (or, depending on your 
language cont-cz.eftm, cont-cz.fmt if I am right) into this 
directory and update the search path with texhash. (Do you have 
write permissions for that directory?)

Then, do a 

kpsewhich cont-en.efmt 

(or whatever format you have copied.) 
is it in the same path as you have described?

Viele Grüße,

  Patrick Gundlach

- I TeX, therefore I am -

Re: Fatal format file error; I'm stymied

[Lukas Kubin]

[-- Warning: decoded text below may be mangled, UTF-8 assumed --]
[-- Attachment #1: Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN, Size: 320 bytes --]

it says the path
.:!!/.../teTeX/share/texmf/web2c

(of course, the ... was written by me now)

lukas

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On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Patrick Gundlach wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> so what does 
> 
> kpsepath fmt
> 
> 
> say??
> 
> 
> Viele Grüße,
> 
>   Patrick Gundlach
> 
> 

Re: Fatal format file error; I'm stymied

[Patrick Gundlach]

Hi,

so what does 

kpsepath fmt

say??

Viele Grüße,

  Patrick Gundlach

Re: Fatal format file error; I'm stymied

[Lukas Kubin]

I tried 

texexec --make --alone en nl

and it finished ok (both formats were generated) but the problem remains
the same.

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On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Hans Hagen wrote:

> At 07:35 PM 11/7/2001 +0100, you wrote:
> >I'm getting this error when trying to compile any ConTeXt document. Since
> >I am using an alpha with tru64unix I had to choose the old tetex1.0
> >binaries of tex. Then I upgraded to the latest ConTeXt beta and started
> >getting the error. I tried texconfig confall, texhash, texexec --make but
> >didn't help.
> >Does anyone have an advise how to solve this?
> >Thank you.
> >
> >Lukas Kubin
> >
> >This is one more line of the error message:
> >This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-13d-2.1 (Web2C 7.3.1)
> 
> that's a real old pdfetex.
> 
> can you try
> 
> texexec --make --alone en nl
> 
> and see what happens? you may need to move the efmt files to the web2c path
> 
> Hans
> 
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Re: Fatal format file error; I'm stymied

[Hans Hagen]

At 07:35 PM 11/7/2001 +0100, you wrote:
>I'm getting this error when trying to compile any ConTeXt document. Since
>I am using an alpha with tru64unix I had to choose the old tetex1.0
>binaries of tex. Then I upgraded to the latest ConTeXt beta and started
>getting the error. I tried texconfig confall, texhash, texexec --make but
>didn't help.
>Does anyone have an advise how to solve this?
>Thank you.
>
>Lukas Kubin
>
>This is one more line of the error message:
>This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-13d-2.1 (Web2C 7.3.1)

that's a real old pdfetex.

can you try

texexec --make --alone en nl

and see what happens? you may need to move the efmt files to the web2c path

Hans

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Fatal format file error; I'm stymied

[Lukas Kubin]

I'm getting this error when trying to compile any ConTeXt document. Since
I am using an alpha with tru64unix I had to choose the old tetex1.0
binaries of tex. Then I upgraded to the latest ConTeXt beta and started
getting the error. I tried texconfig confall, texhash, texexec --make but
didn't help.
Does anyone have an advise how to solve this?
Thank you.

Lukas Kubin

This is one more line of the error message:
This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-13d-2.1 (Web2C 7.3.1)

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