Penalties between items?

Penalties between items?

[F. Miller Maley]

How does ConTeXt decide what penalties to place between items in a
\startitemize...\stopitemize construction?  Looking at the vertical list
with \showlists, I sometimes see a penalty of -5, sometimes 500, and
sometimes 10000.

There's a place in my document where TeX prefers to break a page just
before the last line of an \item paragraph, leaving 2 blank lines at
the bottom of the page, rather than breaking after the paragraph and
leaving one blank line.  There appears to be a penalty of 10000 here.
Are penalties added to prevent breaking just after the first item in
a list?

It should be easy to add my own breakpoints with inbetween={\blank\penalty0}
or something, but presumably this is not the natural solution.  I looked
briefly at the other options to \setupitemize without finding the answer.
Apologies if the answer is obvious....

-- Miller Maley

Re: Penalties between items?

[Hans Hagen]

At 06:16 PM 12/1/2001 -0500, F. Miller Maley wrote:
>How does ConTeXt decide what penalties to place between items in a
>\startitemize...\stopitemize construction?  Looking at the vertical list
>with \showlists, I sometimes see a penalty of -5, sometimes 500, and
>sometimes 10000.

indeed, context tries not to split the two first or last items

>There's a place in my document where TeX prefers to break a page just
>before the last line of an \item paragraph, leaving 2 blank lines at
>the bottom of the page, rather than breaking after the paragraph and
>leaving one blank line.  There appears to be a penalty of 10000 here.
>Are penalties added to prevent breaking just after the first item in
>a list?

something like that; if youhave a fialing casse, i need a minimal example

Hans

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