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* Euro
@ 2002-03-12 20:57 Frans Goddijn
  2002-03-13  1:26 ` ConTeXt under Omega Idris Samawi Hamid
  2002-03-13 10:33 ` Euro Hans Hagen
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Frans Goddijn @ 2002-03-12 20:57 UTC (permalink / raw)


On
http://www.linmpi.mpg.de/english/services/software/latex/localtex/eurosymbol
.html
there's a brief explanation of the way the Euro can be implemented in LaTeX.
I got the big zipfile from
http://www.linmpi.mpg.de/english/services/software/latex/localtex/zipped/eur
osymbol.zip
and there's a whole bunch of files in there. Quite confusing to start with
but not surprising as there are several Euro packages shrinkwrapped into one
bag.
The AFM/PFB files need to be retrieved from yet another address:
www.adobe.com/type/eurofont.html

One of the packages is more purist and provides the sans serif Eurosign
which still changes along to its environment into normal, bold and
(bold-)italic like it should. The other one (europs.sty also morphs into a
serif symbol, a typewriter symbol et cetera which I like better.

A while ago I recall there was some discussion about the possible ways
someone could maybe develop a Euro solution for ConTeXt.

I wonder: is this simple to implement in ConTeXt today (for the clever guys
out here) since these Adobe files are there up for grabs anyway?

Groet,

Frans


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* ConTeXt under Omega
  2002-03-12 20:57 Euro Frans Goddijn
@ 2002-03-13  1:26 ` Idris Samawi Hamid
  2002-03-13 10:52   ` Hans Hagen
  2002-03-13 10:33 ` Euro Hans Hagen
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Idris Samawi Hamid @ 2002-03-13  1:26 UTC (permalink / raw)


Dear friends,

After an exchange with Giuseppe Bilotta on CTT,  I am interested in trying out ConTeXt with Omega. How does one install the ConTeXt format under Omega? I know that the ConTeXt is compiled 
with pdf-e-TeX, and that ConTeXt has hooks into features specific to that format. My situation is that I do a lot of multilingual typesetting under Omega using features not available in pdf-e-TeX. I am 
would like to test the claim of ConTeXt's improved typesetting functionality over LaTeX in a multilingual context (mainly scholarly Arabic). I've looked at the install manual and did a standard install of 
ConTeXt as well, but it's not clear to me exactly how to proceed to compile it under Omega 1.15. Has anyone tried ConTeXt-Omega before? Any reports?

Also:
1. While Omega itself will not support the pdfTeX and e-TeX extensions of ConTeXt, will dvipdfm at least support some of the pdf-related stuff in ConTeXt?

2. R there any documents which give a good comparison and contrast of LaTeX vs. ConTeXt? (But I thnk Giuseppe Bilotta 4 the comments he made on CTT)

3. I am totally new here & have never tried ConTeXt before, nor do I have much experience with iniTeX (since formats r usually loaded during installation of TeX) and am interested in any comments. 
how-to's, or suggestions any of u may have in getting this to work.

Thnx in advance and best wishes
Idris


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* Re: Euro
  2002-03-12 20:57 Euro Frans Goddijn
  2002-03-13  1:26 ` ConTeXt under Omega Idris Samawi Hamid
@ 2002-03-13 10:33 ` Hans Hagen
  2002-03-13 11:53   ` Euro Frans Goddijn
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2002-03-13 10:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: ntg-context

At 09:57 PM 3/12/2002 +0100, you wrote:

>I wonder: is this simple to implement in ConTeXt today (for the clever guys
>out here) since these Adobe files are there up for grabs anyway?

you can add (uncomment) in cont-sys.tex:

adobe ones: \usesymbols[eur]

vogel one: \usesymbolset[mvs]

with respect to the adobe ones, you need to rename the funny adobe number 
names to more meaningful ones (see symb-eur.tex)

[the symbols scale with the fonts, and the adobe euros with the font style too]

Hans

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* Re: ConTeXt under Omega
  2002-03-13  1:26 ` ConTeXt under Omega Idris Samawi Hamid
@ 2002-03-13 10:52   ` Hans Hagen
  2002-03-13 19:24     ` Idris Samawi Hamid
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2002-03-13 10:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: NTG-ConTeXt mailing list

At 06:26 PM 3/12/2002 -0700, Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:
>Dear friends,
>
>After an exchange with Giuseppe Bilotta on CTT,  I am interested in trying 
>out ConTeXt with Omega. How does one install the ConTeXt format under 
>Omega? I know that the ConTeXt is compiled
>with pdf-e-TeX, and that ConTeXt has hooks into features specific to that 
>format. My situation is that I do a lot of multilingual typesetting under 
>Omega using features not available in pdf-e-TeX. I am
>would like to test the claim of ConTeXt's improved typesetting 
>functionality over LaTeX in a multilingual context (mainly scholarly 
>Arabic). I've looked at the install manual and did a standard install of
>ConTeXt as well, but it's not clear to me exactly how to proceed to 
>compile it under Omega 1.15. Has anyone tried ConTeXt-Omega before? Any 
>reports?
>
>Also:
>1. While Omega itself will not support the pdfTeX and e-TeX extensions of 
>ConTeXt, will dvipdfm at least support some of the pdf-related stuff in 
>ConTeXt?

texexec --make --alone --tex=omega en

should do the job; i just tested this and found out that omega needs twice 
as much main mem so you may need to increse the values in texmf.cnf)

Then a simple file

\starttext
   does it work
\stoptext

with

texexec --tex=omega thisfile

should work

Hans
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* Re: Euro
  2002-03-13 10:33 ` Euro Hans Hagen
@ 2002-03-13 11:53   ` Frans Goddijn
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Frans Goddijn @ 2002-03-13 11:53 UTC (permalink / raw)


> you can add (uncomment) in cont-sys.tex:
> adobe ones: \usesymbols[eur]
> vogel one: \usesymbolset[mvs]

I have one cont-sys.* nin \tex\context\base but it doesn't have that entry,
just:

%%%%%%
% Enabling \CONTEXT\ navigation symbols as well as \euro's.
\usesymbols [nav,mvs]
\setupsymbolset [navigation 1] % not that clever
\setupinteraction [\c!symboolset=navigation 1]
%%%%%%

So I'll search for another more complete copy...

Groet!

Frans


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* Re: ConTeXt under Omega
  2002-03-13 10:52   ` Hans Hagen
@ 2002-03-13 19:24     ` Idris Samawi Hamid
  2002-03-13 19:49       ` Idris Samawi Hamid
  2002-03-21  9:09       ` Hans Hagen
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Idris Samawi Hamid @ 2002-03-13 19:24 UTC (permalink / raw)


3/13/02 3:52:14 AM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:

>texexec --make --alone --tex=omega en

Thanks! I got it working. I'm reading the manual and I have a couple of questions:

I see that NFSS is not part of ConTeXt, but I don't quite get the new scheme. How do I convert

\fontfamily{mtnaskhi}\fontsize{14}{28}\selectfont

to ConTeXt syntax? I tried

\setupbodyfont{mtnaskh,14pt}

but cmr was still invoked. Is there an equivalent to *.fd files in ConTeXt? How do I set up a font family? In my case mtnaskhi is a family and mtnaskh is an OVF within that family

Another question: Is the article on Plain, LaTeX and ConTeX(t)  by Wietse Dol en Erik Frambach available on line anywhere (thnx 2 Karel 4 the reference)?

Thnx again & Best wishes
Idris


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* Re: ConTeXt under Omega
  2002-03-13 19:24     ` Idris Samawi Hamid
@ 2002-03-13 19:49       ` Idris Samawi Hamid
  2002-03-21  9:09       ` Hans Hagen
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Idris Samawi Hamid @ 2002-03-13 19:49 UTC (permalink / raw)


3/13/02 12:24:45 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid <ishamid@attbi.com> wrote:

>Another question: Is the article on Plain, LaTeX and ConTeX(t)  by Wietse Dol en Erik Frambach available on line anywhere (thnx 2 Karel 4 the reference)?

I found the book: http://4tex.ntg.nl/4tex5/manual/.

Will a print or printable copy ever be available again (a la Eijkhout)?

Best wishes
Idris


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* Re: ConTeXt under Omega
  2002-03-13 19:24     ` Idris Samawi Hamid
  2002-03-13 19:49       ` Idris Samawi Hamid
@ 2002-03-21  9:09       ` Hans Hagen
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2002-03-21  9:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: NTG-ConTeXt mailing list

At 12:24 PM 3/13/2002 -0700, Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:
>3/13/02 3:52:14 AM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
>
> >texexec --make --alone --tex=omega en
>
>Thanks! I got it working. I'm reading the manual and I have a couple of 
>questions:
>
>I see that NFSS is not part of ConTeXt, but I don't quite get the new 
>scheme. How do I convert
>
>\fontfamily{mtnaskhi}\fontsize{14}{28}\selectfont
>
>to ConTeXt syntax? I tried
>
>\setupbodyfont{mtnaskh,14pt}

see font manual (btw, this command uses [] instead of {})

Hans
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* euro
@ 1998-08-31 12:57 Hans Hagen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 1998-08-31 12:57 UTC (permalink / raw)


Hi, 

Some time ago Tobias, Taco and I discussed the euro symbol. Lucky us,
adobe released some fonts containing this symbol. Unlucky us, they are
12 fonts, each with one symbol (serif, sans, mono) * (regular, bold,
italic, bolditalic). 

Out of efficiency reasons, we cannot use a dedicated family for this
symbol, but I extended the symbol definition mechanism to deal with
this. This means that the next (major) release will offer 

\euro 

which adapts to style (rm,ss,tt) and alternative (tf,bf,it,sl,bi,bs) and
size as well. 

This leaves the problem of distributing the fonts. I renamed the funny
_2bi_____.pdf etc names to something more useful. 

I'm thinking of setting up a seperate font directory with fonts in the
right encodings (although many can be used, we only advocate the best). 

I guess Taco has his ideas on this. 

Hans 

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