Asymmetric margins

Asymmetric margins

[John Culleton]

 I would like to set up:
 left margin=.5in and right margin= 1.5in for right hand pages,
 left margin=1.5in and right margin .5in for left hand pages.

 This leaves room for a sidebar (marginal text) on the outer
 edge of either page type.

 Any suggestions? (Or if I have missed something perhaps a
 page reference :-)

 John Culleton

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Re: Asymmetric margins

[Bill McClain]

On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 14:55:41 -0500
John Culleton <john@wexfordpress.com> wrote:

>  I would like to set up:
>  left margin=.5in and right margin= 1.5in for right hand pages,
>  left margin=1.5in and right margin .5in for left hand pages.
> 
>  This leaves room for a sidebar (marginal text) on the outer
>  edge of either page type.

I haven't tried putting anything in the margins yet, but I want to use
marginal notes extensively in my next projects, so I am interested in
this also.

Here is how I've controlled margin widths for a book layout.

This turns on right-left mirroring:

    \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]

Say the page width is 8.5in. I want a 1in gutter on the inside margin of
each page, and a 1.5in margin on the outer edge.

    \setuplayout[backspace=1in, width=6in]

"backspace" is the gutter, "width" is the text area, and whatever is
left over is the outer margin:

    8.5 - 1 - 6 = 1.5

As far as I can see, the outer margin is not specified directly. The
page width is an implicit factor in the calculation.

-Bill

Re: Asymmetric margins

[Hans Hagen]

At 07:47 AM 4/5/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 14:55:41 -0500
>John Culleton <john@wexfordpress.com> wrote:
>
> >  I would like to set up:
> >  left margin=.5in and right margin= 1.5in for right hand pages,
> >  left margin=1.5in and right margin .5in for left hand pages.
> >
> >  This leaves room for a sidebar (marginal text) on the outer
> >  edge of either page type.
>
>I haven't tried putting anything in the margins yet, but I want to use
>marginal notes extensively in my next projects, so I am interested in
>this also.

hm, i've done a lot of margin stuff last days (stacking graphics in margins 
and edges, on grids, spanning areas, etc) so you can imaging that it is 
somehow possible to use the margins -)

>Here is how I've controlled margin widths for a book layout.
>
>This turns on right-left mirroring:
>
>     \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]

right, but

   alternative={doublesided,singlesided}

gives you a non mirrored alternative

>Say the page width is 8.5in. I want a 1in gutter on the inside margin of
>each page, and a 1.5in margin on the outer edge.
>
>     \setuplayout[backspace=1in, width=6in]

(in the latest version there is also cutspace)

>"backspace" is the gutter, "width" is the text area, and whatever is
>left over is the outer margin:
>
>     8.5 - 1 - 6 = 1.5
>
>As far as I can see, the outer margin is not specified directly. The
>page width is an implicit factor in the calculation.

you can specify

   backspace=1in,cutspace=1.5in,width=middle

indeed the page width is importasnt, which is why you can say:

\definepapersize[WhyUseInches][width=8.5in,height=14in]

\setuppapersize[WhyUseInches][letter]

\setuplayout[location=middle,marking=on]

etc etc

Also, you can specify leftmargin/rightmargin etc but those are virtual

Hans
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Re: Asymmetric margins

[Hans Hagen]

At 02:55 PM 4/4/2002 -0500, John Culleton wrote:
>  I would like to set up:
>  left margin=.5in and right margin= 1.5in for right hand pages,
>  left margin=1.5in and right margin .5in for left hand pages.
>
>  This leaves room for a sidebar (marginal text) on the outer
>  edge of either page type.

it's always dangerous to change dimensions while tex is not yet finished 
with a page (you never know where tex will break), however, you can say:

\definelayout[odd] [width=10cm]
\definelayout[even][width=12cm]
\definelayout[3]   [width=5cm]

and give \dorecurse{100}{\input tufte \par}

a try; this demonstrates that you can fool around with margins on left and 
right pages

Hans

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Re: Asymmetric margins

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am Donnerstag, 4. April 2002 21:55 schrieb John Culleton:
>  Any suggestions? (Or if I have missed something perhaps a
>  page reference :-)

Shy question: Did you have a look in the manual at the page with all the 
configurable widths and heights?
Further: try \showlayout

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Re: Asymmetric margins

[John Culleton]

On Friday 05 April 2002 12:35, Hans Hagen wrote:
> At 02:55 PM 4/4/2002 -0500, John Culleton wrote:
> >  I would like to set up:
> >  left margin=.5in and right margin= 1.5in for right hand pages,
> >  left margin=1.5in and right margin .5in for left hand pages.
> >
> >  This leaves room for a sidebar (marginal text) on the outer
> >  edge of either page type.
>
> it's always dangerous to change dimensions while tex is not yet
> finished with a page (you never know where tex will break),
> however, you can say:
>
> \definelayout[odd] [width=10cm]
> \definelayout[even][width=12cm]
> \definelayout[3]   [width=5cm]
>
> and give \dorecurse{100}{\input tufte \par}
>
> a try; this demonstrates that you can fool around with margins on
> left and right pages
>
> Hans
>
I don't find \definelayout in the manual. Does it take the same 
options as \setuplayout?

John Culleton

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Re: Asymmetric margins

[Hans Hagen]

At 03:50 PM 4/7/2002 -0500, John Culleton wrote:

>I don't find \definelayout in the manual. Does it take the same

new command

>options as \setuplayout?

indeed
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